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Posted: 8/28/2004 9:57:43 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/28/2004 9:57:59 PM EST by The_Macallan]


Martin Luther King Day Celebration Remarks

Speaker: Senator John Forbes Kerry (MA)
Title: Martin Luther King Day Celebration Remarks
Location: Richmond, VA
Date: 01/20/2003
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"I will never forget - in particular - what Martin Luther King spoke of when he confessed to being what he called a 'maladjusted' citizen.

He said that he simply could not adjust to a world sharply divided between the hardworking many and the privileged few. He could not accept an America where discrimination and bigotry still held citizens down. He had not been able to get comfortable with a society that had become complacent in the face of human hardship and suffering.

I remember well April, 1968 - I was serving in Vietnam - a place of violence - when the news reports brought home to me and my crewmates the violence back home - and the tragic news that one of the bullets flying that terrible spring took the life of that unabashedly maladjusted citizen."


He remembers it "well" .

He didn't arrive in Vietnam until November 1968.



Link Posted: 8/28/2004 9:59:35 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 10:22:28 PM EST
the meltdown continues
FREE
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 10:25:38 PM EST
Abandon ship, she's goin down like a prom dress!

- BG
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 10:28:55 PM EST
I think he was serving on a destroyer when MLK was killed, and was within the Vietnam theatre.
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 10:31:37 PM EST
I doesn't matter. America voted in a lying, womanizing, draft dodger as President TWICE in the 90's. Kerry looks like a saint compared to Clinton. Do you think a little thing like lying about where you were 30 years ago is going to matter to Joe Schmo? Unlikely. Only those who are going to vote for Bush anyway even care about this stuff.

Pretty sad.
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 10:37:54 PM EST
Macallan,

i always respect your views and posts... However (not directed AT you) Who really gives a crap?

After hearing the sheeple of this country only the people WITH integrity will care... And that is what? 15-30% of this country? Ted Kennedy keeps getting re elected and someone DIED!

Clinton purgured himself and people dont care! To this day, THEY still think it was only about sex. The fact that he committed a crime means NOTHING!

I have NEVER served in the military and I laughed at his salute at the DNC. My military buddies even said it was lame.

The Repubs need something BIG to push this election over the top... I mean HUGE!

Osama being dragged off a plane onto the tarmack at JFK with "W" saying "Im George Bush Bitch!!" is gonna do it.
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 10:47:59 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 10:51:45 PM EST

Originally Posted By brasspile:
On another note DrFridge, how does the pistol in your avatar keep firing even though the trigger finger doesn't move? Is it a full auto with a hollywoodmag?


The slide doesn't go back either. I guess it uses a thumb trigger.
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 10:55:39 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 11:21:29 PM EST
Since you brought it up I decided to stare at it through something like 50 shots... then it hit me... THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A 50 ROUND MAG!!!!

I am a fraud... a fake.... I stand before you ashamed and embarassed. .... Wait a minute!!!

My daughter set that Avatar for me... what the F**k do I know?

FOR PETE's SAKE ITS AN AVATAR GUYS!!!!!

We now return you back to Macallan's thread which is already in progress!
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 11:26:31 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 11:29:58 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/28/2004 11:30:37 PM EST by The_Macallan]

Originally Posted By DrFrige:
We now return you back to Macallan's thread which is already in progress!


Well I think you shot that down in the first line of your first post anyways: Who really gives a crap?


Link Posted: 8/28/2004 11:41:06 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 4:51:44 AM EST

Originally Posted By USPC40:
I doesn't matter. America voted in a lying, womanizing, draft dodger as President TWICE in the 90's. Kerry looks like a saint compared to Clinton. Do you think a little thing like lying about where you were 30 years ago is going to matter to Joe Schmo? Unlikely. Only those who are going to vote for Bush anyway even care about this stuff.

Pretty sad.



What is sad is an asshole who lies to make himself look good, if he lies to your face about shit like this, you think he'll have any problem lying about something important later??

It goes to character, I can't bring myself to trust a man who is such a blatant liar.......
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 5:36:40 AM EST

Originally Posted By USPC40:
I doesn't matter. America voted in a lying, womanizing, draft dodger as President TWICE in the 90's. Kerry looks like a saint compared to Clinton.



I don't know......

For one thing, Clinton was WAY WAY smoother than JF'nK ever could be, which is why these things ARE adding up.

I still think that the overwhelming majority of those people NOT in the "I hate Bush more than Bin Laden" crowd still consider integrity a serious matter, and with someone as inept at covering it up as Kerry is, that will make a difference.

The fact that he's steadily LOSING in the polls supports my thesis, and we haven't even started the RNC yet...
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 5:38:35 AM EST

Originally Posted By brasspile:
Mac, may I take a moment and point you in This Direction that shows the kind of people we are actually dealing with?

There are MILLIONS who do not give a shit if Kerry was even in the military!!! All they care about is that he is NOT BUSH!



Sadly, I have to agree with you.

I'm no Bush fan either. He has screwed up his presidency royally, thru stupidity and listening to the wrong advisors---and I don't rule out the revenge factor in his going after Saddam, after the attempt on his father's life.

But America has survived stupid Presidents a nimber if times, and will survive Bush. John Kerry, on the other hand, is a creature of evil, who quite frankly frightens me. If he is elected, only the Congress will stand between us and the changing of this country into tyranny; and I'm not sure how much I trust the Congress.

So I'll vote for Bush. Not because I like him, but simply because the alternative is so much worse.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 5:52:43 AM EST
Hanoi John also claimed he arrived in LA the night Bobbie Kennedy was shot. He actually arrived in LA two days later.

It is not clear yet where his ship was in April 1968. Somewhere in the Pacific but they were on a long cruise from the west coast to South China Sea, spent a few weeks on carrier escort then they sailed to Oz and back to the west coast.

GunLvr
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 5:54:59 AM EST
Good riddance John F'n sKerry
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 6:06:46 AM EST
Kerry is a bigger liar than Al Gore and the democooks dont give a shit

It is sad that those people cannot see his hidden agenda
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 6:25:19 AM EST
Yes there are those who would vote for kerry after he ate their children for dinner because: "He is not Bush" that IS true.BUT,there are a great number of people who WERE somewhat undecided....like MANY Veterans and swing voters.These are the ones that will win GWB a second term.Kerry is such a lying POS that all he has to do is to "Be himself" until after the elections in November and he will simply be "Another failed Presidential Candidate."He has allways been and will continue to be a horses ass.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 6:36:53 AM EST


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"I will never forget



I remember well





Boy he sure does love using these phrases. Either his memory really sucks or he is a pathelogical liar. I go for him being the pathelogical liar.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 6:51:19 AM EST

Originally Posted By brasspile:
Good Eye Mac!



wow guys, do you think he could have just gotten the years wrong? if you change 68 to 69 it becomes a correct statement doesn' it? Hell, I'm not perfect either. Why are we so quick to label another man a liar?
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 6:52:38 AM EST

Originally Posted By AZMAN-1:

Originally Posted By USPC40:
I doesn't matter. America voted in a lying, womanizing, draft dodger as President TWICE in the 90's. Kerry looks like a saint compared to Clinton. Do you think a little thing like lying about where you were 30 years ago is going to matter to Joe Schmo? Unlikely. Only those who are going to vote for Bush anyway even care about this stuff.

Pretty sad.



What is sad is an asshole who lies to make himself look good, if he lies to your face about shit like this, you think he'll have any problem lying about something important later??

It goes to character, I can't bring myself to trust a man who is such a blatant liar.......



Lies? OH, you mean like WMD.......
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 6:53:50 AM EST
What a lyin' piece of shit! This guy is so lost in the 1960's that his whole life never left that freakin decade. Everything he says and does somehow relates to the Vietnam era. It's amazing that he tries to claim that he was there and a part of every significant event that took place during that period. Hell, not even Forrest Gump was involved with as many things Kerry claims to have been, and we know Forrest got around like no other!

Hell, I guess pretty soon he'll slip up and claim he was aboard some of the US Navy ships that did the blockade around Cuba during the Cuban Missile Crisis! I mean why not? This guy so wants to be Kennedy, maybe his feeble mind will forget that this happened in the early 60's! He already claims to be a part of everything else back then, why not go for the gold? LOL.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 6:55:39 AM EST

Originally Posted By Tortfeasor:

Originally Posted By brasspile:
Good Eye Mac!



wow guys, do you think he could have just gotten the years wrong? if you change 68 to 69 it becomes a correct statement doesn' it? Hell, I'm not perfect either. Why are we so quick to label another man a liar?



"I will never forget



I remember well
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 6:55:55 AM EST
The lies keep piling up...Kerry's incredibly poor record as a senator keep getting exposed...but some continue to support the lying POS.

I wonder at this...so I asked a couple of liberal Democrat friends why, ALL things considered, (economy, war, foreign affairs, homeland defense, etc.) they are going to vote for the liar Kerry. I then asked, before they could answer, "Is it all Florida 2000?" They all but admitted that Kerry is not such a hot candidate...BUT...

Both answered in the affirmative; it IS all about Florida 2000.

Now y'all need to understand, these two libs are both very nice people, otherwise very well educated and very bright...but they won't vote for Bush no matter what! One is a lawyer and one is a staffy for the NYTs. Both work in DC. We ride the train together occasionally.

I fugure they comprise about 30% of the electorate overall. We need to convince the middlesheeple to vote for Bush...THAT is where the election will be won or lost.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 7:11:09 AM EST

Originally Posted By AZMAN-1:

Originally Posted By USPC40:
I doesn't matter. America voted in a lying, womanizing, draft dodger as President TWICE in the 90's. Kerry looks like a saint compared to Clinton. Do you think a little thing like lying about where you were 30 years ago is going to matter to Joe Schmo? Unlikely. Only those who are going to vote for Bush anyway even care about this stuff.

Pretty sad.



What is sad is an asshole who lies to make himself look good, if he lies to your face about shit like this, you think he'll have any problem lying about something important later??

It goes to character, I can't bring myself to trust a man who is such a blatant liar.......



Who cares, as long as he ain't Bush!

And, BTW...Bush ain't no boy scout, either! I seem to recall certain statements about WMD and going to war...and not taking responsibility for a certain prison abuse scandal...pushing the blame on the military...that is disgusting! If you're a leader, you take the heat cause...the buck stops with you!

Flame on!
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 7:52:34 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/29/2004 8:00:41 AM EST by The_Macallan]

Originally Posted By Tortfeasor:

Originally Posted By brasspile:
Good Eye Mac!



wow guys, do you think he could have just gotten the years wrong? if you change 68 to 69 it becomes a correct statement doesn' it? Hell, I'm not perfect either. Why are we so quick to label another man a liar?

No - it can NEVER be a correct statement.

Kerry was NEVER in Vietnam when MLK was shot. Dates don't matter - it's Kerry's obsession with throwing his "Vietnam service" into EVERY FUCKING SPEECH regardless of whether it is true or not.

The records show Kerry was not in Vietnam when MLK was shot so him saying "I was serving in Vietnam when I heard the news" was nothing but INTENTIONAL BULLSHIT to make himself appear like a noble war hero when in fact he is nothing but a lying TRAITOR who should be arrested for treason and executed by firing squad.

Link Posted: 8/29/2004 7:53:47 AM EST
One time, at band camp in Viet Nam......
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 7:58:04 AM EST

Originally Posted By Slv2fun:

Originally Posted By AZMAN-1:

Originally Posted By USPC40:
I doesn't matter. America voted in a lying, womanizing, draft dodger as President TWICE in the 90's. Kerry looks like a saint compared to Clinton. Do you think a little thing like lying about where you were 30 years ago is going to matter to Joe Schmo? Unlikely. Only those who are going to vote for Bush anyway even care about this stuff.

Pretty sad.



What is sad is an asshole who lies to make himself look good, if he lies to your face about shit like this, you think he'll have any problem lying about something important later??

It goes to character, I can't bring myself to trust a man who is such a blatant liar.......





Who cares, as long as he ain't Bush!

And, BTW...Bush ain't no boy scout, either! I seem to recall certain statements about WMD and going to war...and not taking responsibility for a certain prison abuse scandal...pushing the blame on the military...that is disgusting! If you're a leader, you take the heat cause...the buck stops with you!

Flame on!



Why can't you people understand there is a difference between being mis-informed by the advisors who are paid to know what is going on and blatant, outright lies?
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 7:58:55 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/29/2004 8:01:38 AM EST by The_Macallan]

Originally Posted By Tortfeasor:
Lies? OH, you mean like WMD.......

WHO "lied" about WMDs?????

* American Intelligence
* British Intelligence
* Russian Intelligence
* German Intelligence
* UNSCOM
* GWBush
* Colin Powell
* George Tenet
* John Kerry
* Ted Kennedy
* Hillary Clinton
* Al Gore
* Bill Clinton
* Joe Lieberman
* Carl Levin
* Madeline Albright
* William Cohen
* Sandy Berger
* Nancy Pelosi
* Henry Waxman
* Jay Rockafeller
* Bob Graham
* Robert Byrd
* Tom Daschle
* Hans Blix

Yeah-right. It sure makes a lot of sense to believe the WHOLE WORLD was lying


Now get the fuck out of this thread and start a new one if you're gonna keep changing the subject.

This thread is about that two-face TRAITOR Hanoi-John Kerry being a PATHOLOGICAL LIAR!!!




Link Posted: 8/29/2004 8:06:01 AM EST

Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By Tortfeasor:
Lies? OH, you mean like WMD.......

WHO "lied" about WMDs?????

* American Intelligence
* British Intelligence
* Russian Intelligence
* German Intelligence
* UNSCOM
* GWBush
* Colin Powell
* George Tenet
* John Kerry
* Ted Kennedy
* Hillary Clinton
* Al Gore
* Bill Clinton
* Joe Lieberman
* Carl Levin
* Madeline Albright
* William Cohen
* Sandy Berger
* Nancy Pelosi
* Henry Waxman
* Jay Rockafeller
* Bob Graham
* Robert Byrd
* Tom Daschle
* Hans Blix

Yeah-right. It sure makes a lot of sense to believe the WHOLE WORLD was lying


Now get the fuck out of this thread and start a new one if you're gonna keep changing the subject.

This thread is about that two-face TRAITOR Hanoi-John Kerry being a PATHOLOGICAL LIAR!!!







We can debate who lied and who didn't from among the list you just gave...
as far as me getting the fuck out, no thanks. YOU opened the door to liars, and what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.....

Note: I have not decided who to vote for - while you have most certainly decided who to vote for.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 8:09:38 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/29/2004 8:13:03 AM EST by Dukota]

Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By Tortfeasor:
Lies? OH, you mean like WMD.......

WHO "lied" about WMDs?????

* American Intelligence
* British Intelligence
* Russian Intelligence
* German Intelligence
* UNSCOM
* GWBush
* Colin Powell
* George Tenet
* John Kerry
* Ted Kennedy
* Hillary Clinton
* Al Gore
* Bill Clinton
* Joe Lieberman
* Carl Levin
* Madeline Albright
* William Cohen
* Sandy Berger
* Nancy Pelosi
* Henry Waxman
* Jay Rockafeller
* Bob Graham
* Robert Byrd
* Tom Daschle
* Hans Blix

Yeah-right. It sure makes a lot of sense to believe the WHOLE WORLD was lying


Now get the fuck out of this thread and start a new one if you're gonna keep changing the subject.

This thread is about that two-face TRAITOR Hanoi-John Kerry being a PATHOLOGICAL LIAR!!!








Link Posted: 8/29/2004 8:09:44 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 8:12:51 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/29/2004 8:14:02 AM EST by Tortfeasor]

Originally Posted By DigDug:

Originally Posted By Tortfeasor:

Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By Tortfeasor:
Lies? OH, you mean like WMD.......

WHO "lied" about WMDs?????

* American Intelligence
* British Intelligence
* Russian Intelligence
* German Intelligence
* UNSCOM
* GWBush
* Colin Powell
* George Tenet
* John Kerry
* Ted Kennedy
* Hillary Clinton
* Al Gore
* Bill Clinton
* Joe Lieberman
* Carl Levin
* Madeline Albright
* William Cohen
* Sandy Berger
* Nancy Pelosi
* Henry Waxman
* Jay Rockafeller
* Bob Graham
* Robert Byrd
* Tom Daschle
* Hans Blix

Yeah-right. It sure makes a lot of sense to believe the WHOLE WORLD was lying


Now get the fuck out of this thread and start a new one if you're gonna keep changing the subject.

This thread is about that two-face TRAITOR Hanoi-John Kerry being a PATHOLOGICAL LIAR!!!







We can debate who lied and who didn't from among the list you just gave...
as far as me getting the fuck out, no thanks. YOU opened the door to liars, and what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.....

Note: I have not decided who to vote for - while you have most certainly decided who to vote for.



There were two dozen missiles found with cyclosarin in them a few months ago. They were found in Iraq. What is your excuse for this? And no, cyclosarin does not last 10 years.



Moderator - got a link? Most of the rants in here go unchallenged...I am just asking for facts.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 8:32:20 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/29/2004 8:34:09 AM EST by The_Macallan]

FUCK ALL YOU HIJACKING ASSHOLES!!!

I started a new thread so can a Mod now lock this shit-covered thread!





Link Posted: 8/29/2004 8:45:50 AM EST
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