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Posted: 4/18/2008 10:55:22 AM EST
as if it shouldn't be

Handmade ammunition legal in Canada

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2008/04/15/hand-load.html
Last Updated: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 | 9:58 AM ET Comments61Recommend24
CBC News

Buying ammunition in Canada requires a firearms licence, but some people make their own ammunition, and gun and gang experts say that has led to a black market in the sale of bullets.

"It would be nice if people had to have a licence to buy the components; currently they don't," said Deputy Chief Tony Cooper of the Ontario Firearms Office.

If you're over 18, it's legal to buy all the components needed to make bullets — primers, gunpowder, casings and bullet tips. For about $100, a person can buy enough supplies to make 1,000 "hand-load" homemade bullets.

"It's very common … for people to hand-load. I would say it's been something that's been done for a couple of hundred years," said Cooper.

He says hand-load bullets are commonly used by hunters and target shooters.

The fear is the hand-load bullets will get into the hands of the wrong people.

Cooper said "it's the exception, certainly not the rule," but it is a concern.

No one knows how many hand-load bullets make it onto the streets because there has never been an audit of casings from crime scenes.
Link Posted: 4/18/2008 10:56:18 AM EST
They need to put a stop to all those handloading gang-bangers
Link Posted: 4/18/2008 10:57:00 AM EST
[Last Edit: 4/18/2008 10:59:42 AM EST by Bugalaman]
what the hell is a bullet tip?

Link Posted: 4/18/2008 10:58:30 AM EST
Good grief.
Link Posted: 4/18/2008 10:58:52 AM EST

Originally Posted By Bugalaman:
what the hell is a bullet tip?


Its that thing on the arm that goes up.
Link Posted: 4/18/2008 11:00:28 AM EST
Fucking reloaders, when will they learn.
Link Posted: 4/18/2008 11:01:05 AM EST

Originally Posted By Adirondack47:

Originally Posted By Bugalaman:
what the hell is a bullet tip?


Its that thing on the arm that goes up.



no your thinking of the thing on the back that goes up
Link Posted: 4/18/2008 11:01:47 AM EST

Originally Posted By AssaultRifler:
"It's very common … for people to hand-load. I would say it's been something that's been done for a couple of hundred years," said Cooper.
umm...you sure about that Cooper?
Link Posted: 4/18/2008 11:01:48 AM EST

Originally Posted By Bugalaman:
what the hell is a bullet tip?




Actually, I've seen that term before, or just "tips", fairly frequently in reloading circles.
Link Posted: 4/18/2008 11:02:36 AM EST

Originally Posted By Barrelburner:
They need to put a stop to all those handloading gang-bangers


Canadian gangsta rap: Chillin with my Dillon so I can do some killin.
Link Posted: 4/18/2008 11:03:14 AM EST
[Last Edit: 4/18/2008 11:07:16 AM EST by -GunNutJuell-]
I'd like to know where in Canada I can buy enough components to load 1,000 rounds for $100!!!
(oh wait, the author is full of shit)
Link Posted: 4/18/2008 11:03:32 AM EST
I see a win-win situation here.

Handloaders start selling overpressure loads to gangbangers. Gangbangers' guns KB.
Link Posted: 4/18/2008 11:05:35 AM EST

Originally Posted By crurifragium:

Originally Posted By Barrelburner:
They need to put a stop to all those handloading gang-bangers


Canadian gangsta rap: Chillin with my Dillon so I can do some killin.


Man, that's sig material there!
Link Posted: 4/18/2008 11:06:19 AM EST

Originally Posted By crurifragium:

Originally Posted By Barrelburner:
They need to put a stop to all those handloading gang-bangers


Canadian gangsta rap: Chillin with my Dillon so I can do some killin.





Link Posted: 4/18/2008 11:07:41 AM EST
what happens if some of my bullets don't have tips ?



Link Posted: 4/18/2008 11:08:22 AM EST
I like this comment:

It's very common … for people to hand-load. I would say it's been something that's been done for a couple of hundred years," said Cooper.

Of course they have. Never have seen a machine loaded musket. Does Dillon make a press for flintlocks? Is RCBS turning out dies for percussion caps?
Link Posted: 4/18/2008 11:09:14 AM EST

Originally Posted By Barrelburner:
They need to put a stop to all those handloading gang-bangers



Link Posted: 4/18/2008 11:09:15 AM EST

Originally Posted By AngeredKabar:
I see a win-win situation here.

Handloaders start selling overpressure loads to gangbangers. Gangbangers' guns KB.
good idea..sell the bangers some .38's filled to the rim with Bullseye
Link Posted: 4/18/2008 11:10:24 AM EST
They should be encouraging gangbangers to use handloads. Especially the super-hot ones. Proof loads, all the cool kids are shooting 'em !




Link Posted: 4/18/2008 11:11:12 AM EST

Originally Posted By Barrelburner:

Originally Posted By AngeredKabar:
I see a win-win situation here.

Handloaders start selling overpressure loads to gangbangers. Gangbangers' guns KB.
good idea..sell the bangers some .38's filled to the rim with Bullseye




and they'll lose their trigger fingers, so you won't have to worry about retribution!
Link Posted: 4/18/2008 11:11:35 AM EST
If the .gov would subsidize ammo purchases, there would be less incentive to hand load ammo. Then they could save lives and stuff.
Link Posted: 4/18/2008 11:11:37 AM EST

Originally Posted By crurifragium:

Originally Posted By Barrelburner:
They need to put a stop to all those handloading gang-bangers


Canadian gangsta rap: Chillin with my Dillon so I can do some killin.


lol
Link Posted: 4/18/2008 11:11:38 AM EST

Originally Posted By Barrelburner:

Originally Posted By AngeredKabar:
I see a win-win situation here.

Handloaders start selling overpressure loads to gangbangers. Gangbangers' guns KB.
good idea..sell the bangers some .38's filled to the rim with Bullseye


Just sell them some .40 loaded to 10mm specs. Call them Kabooms. All the boyz wit da G-Lock Fotays will love them.
Link Posted: 4/18/2008 11:13:00 AM EST

Originally Posted By VacaDuck:
I like this comment:

It's very common … for people to hand-load. I would say it's been something that's been done for a couple of hundred years," said Cooper.

Of course they have. Never have seen a machine loaded musket. Does Dillon make a press for flintlocks? Is RCBS turning out dies for percussion caps?


To be technical, black-powder shooters are handloading every time they load. They are working with ammunition components - ball/bullet, powder and priming - rather than complete, fixed rounds of ammunition every time they load.
Link Posted: 4/18/2008 11:13:34 AM EST

Originally Posted By david_g17:
If the .gov would subsidize ammo purchases, there would be less incentive to hand load ammo. Then they could save lives and stuff.


Man that would be heaven. FREE AMMO FOR THE MF WIN!
Link Posted: 4/18/2008 11:14:20 AM EST

Originally Posted By mark75101:

Originally Posted By Adirondack47:

Originally Posted By Bugalaman:
what the hell is a bullet tip?


Its that thing on the arm that goes up.



no your thinking of the thing on the back that goes up




It's "shoulder thing that goes up"!

Link Posted: 4/18/2008 11:14:27 AM EST

Originally Posted By Bob1984:

Originally Posted By VacaDuck:
I like this comment:

It's very common … for people to hand-load. I would say it's been something that's been done for a couple of hundred years," said Cooper.

Of course they have. Never have seen a machine loaded musket. Does Dillon make a press for flintlocks? Is RCBS turning out dies for percussion caps?


To be technical, black-powder shooters are handloading every time they load. They are working with ammunition components - ball/bullet, powder and priming - rather than complete, fixed rounds of ammunition every time they load.


I know. But I get the impression that Cooper was referring to cartridges.
Link Posted: 4/18/2008 11:20:37 AM EST
Link Posted: 4/18/2008 12:19:23 PM EST

Originally Posted By Bugalaman:
what the hell is a bullet tip?



Yeah! WTF is a bullet tip?
Link Posted: 4/18/2008 12:26:23 PM EST

Originally Posted By crurifragium:

Originally Posted By Barrelburner:
They need to put a stop to all those handloading gang-bangers


Canadian gangsta rap: Chillin with my Dillon so I can do some killin.





2pac?!!! Is that you?!!!!

Link Posted: 4/18/2008 12:30:31 PM EST
I wonder how hard it would be to manufacture your own percussion caps for personal use, and what the legalities involved would be?
Link Posted: 4/18/2008 12:32:15 PM EST

Originally Posted By Bloencustoms:
I wonder how hard it would be to manufacture your own percussion caps for personal use, and what the legalities involved would be?


Relatively easy, and legal. I remember reading about people who did this, but it never interested me.

Y'know, I bet the news guys could find a way to make 'single-stage press' sound evil and menacing....

Link Posted: 4/18/2008 12:44:11 PM EST
I can't wait for the reloading press buybacks.
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