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Posted: 8/23/2004 9:10:27 AM EDT
Ran into a guy the other night. It is my first wreck. He shot over into my lant and it's pretty hard to stop a 6k 'lb' truck. Hit him going about 45. He was in a big F-150. Insurance gave me a 9k estimate. State Farm is about to drop me after already sinking one and now this!
We didn't have our seatbelts on and I'm amazed it didn't do more damage. The pic I took with my cell phone so it isn't very clear. |
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Posted: 8/23/2004 9:11:25 AM EDT
[#1]
Oh man, that sucks.
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Posted: 8/23/2004 9:13:08 AM EDT
[#2]
Looks like you need to buy a ford!
 Sorry.... |
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Posted: 8/23/2004 9:14:44 AM EDT
[#3]
Ouch - that's tragic on a beautiful range rover!
So everyone was okay? |
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Posted: 8/23/2004 9:16:13 AM EDT
[#4]
Ford owns Land Rover. |
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Posted: 8/23/2004 9:16:45 AM EDT
[#5]
Shouldn't be any harder to stop a 6000 "pond" truck than any other vehicle.
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Posted: 8/23/2004 9:17:27 AM EDT
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LMAO. Could not get a pic of the Ford...since it was perfectly fine except for a couple scratches. It drove off before a pic could be taken.  PS..I'm a Chevy guy. I just love American. PPS. Sorry about the wreck dude. Hope all works out well. |
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Posted: 8/23/2004 9:19:34 AM EDT
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charmed life.
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Posted: 8/23/2004 9:20:56 AM EDT
[#8]
Swoop and Squat?
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Posted: 8/23/2004 9:21:14 AM EDT
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you 'sunk' one???
as in tom cruise and the porsche? hope everyone gets this accident sorted out. crashing sucks. |
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Posted: 8/23/2004 9:22:07 AM EDT
[#10]
That's intelligent. Darwin almost caught up with you. |
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Posted: 8/23/2004 9:23:34 AM EDT
[#11]
hope everyone is ok! and i hope that range rover will be ok too!
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Posted: 8/23/2004 9:26:34 AM EDT
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ChaChing...
There goes your AWBan Sunset Fund. |
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Posted: 8/23/2004 11:55:55 AM EDT
[#13]
Got the final quoat from the shop, 12k parts and labor
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Posted: 8/23/2004 12:09:04 PM EDT
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Doubt that truck in the picture weighs 6k. I've got a Chevy 2500 4x4 and it's just under 6k. Oh you said "pond" truck? You must be talking about the one you sank?
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Posted: 8/23/2004 12:12:52 PM EDT
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Between the ponds and the seatbelts, how the hell did you manage to land a job that pays you enough for a range rover??
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Posted: 8/23/2004 12:13:11 PM EDT
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They have Range Rovers in Oklahoma?
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Posted: 8/23/2004 12:14:24 PM EDT
[#17]
Range Rover is a Ford! BigDozer66 |
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Posted: 8/23/2004 12:15:18 PM EDT
[#18]
no seatbelts on?
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Posted: 8/23/2004 12:22:28 PM EDT
[#19]
One wise ass always outdoes another  FWIW, I have a Ford expedition and I managged to hit a rather large Whitetail deer at about 70MPH at night when the deer jumped the median in front of us and there was no where to go. The Expedition suffered almost 7K in damage in that encounter and my truck looked 80% better then yours does! |
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Posted: 8/23/2004 12:30:15 PM EDT
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Wow thats almost exactly what happened to me last year in Central Oregon on my way to a fishing trip. My buddy and I were cruising at 75 mph on a long straight away about 5:30am and a big doe ran out in front of the truck. I had little time, and i feel sorry for the doe she didnt make it. Luckily i was in a Ford F-350 Crew cab with 35's and a 4 inch lift. Damage was a dent in my bumper, no body damage or frame. Cost me about $200 for a new bumper. Gotta love the big rigs it sure saved us. If we would have taken my buddies car (honda accord) we would have been toast. Glad to hear you are ok but in the future please wear your seatbelt. |
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Posted: 8/23/2004 12:31:20 PM EDT
[#21]
Let's learn something from this, then. |
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Posted: 8/23/2004 12:31:52 PM EDT
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Sorry Big but BMW now owns Land Rover with plans to drop the GM 4.6L aluminum block for the BMW DOHC V8. Tj |
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Posted: 8/23/2004 12:36:54 PM EDT
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Specs Vehicle Specifications and Dimensions top MPG (City/Hwy) 12/16 Wheelbase 113.4" Overall Length 195.0" Vehicle Height 73.3" Vehicle Width 75.7" Payload Capacity 1336 Gross Weight 6724 lbs. Front Headroom 40.2" Front Legroom 38.9" Rear Legroom 35.5" Seating Capacity 5 Towing Capacity 3493 Final Assembly Location GB |
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Posted: 8/23/2004 12:43:01 PM EDT
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Weight does effect stopping distance. Takes more energy to stop more weight, then there is weight shift, then increased traction..... a long story, but weight does effect stopping distance, just not as commonly thought. 
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Posted: 8/23/2004 12:45:20 PM EDT
[#25]
Nope ... BMW was the previous owner. Land Rover is now a Division of Ford. Link to BBC article |
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Posted: 8/23/2004 12:47:28 PM EDT
[#26]
Nerd! just kidding |
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Posted: 8/23/2004 12:48:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/23/2004 12:50:44 PM EDT
[#28]
You are correct. Land Rover is part of the Premier Auto Group at Ford. Land Rover still buys some engines from BMW. |
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Posted: 8/23/2004 1:02:38 PM EDT
[#29]
I didn't quite understand you...you said...
We didn't have our seatbelts on and I'm amazed it didn't do more damage. ...it didn't do more damage, what? Possibly your heads crashing through the front windshield damaging the vehicle more or more damage to you physically?  Im glad your ok. |
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Posted: 8/23/2004 1:02:56 PM EDT
[#30]
Why would you be dropped if it wasn't your fault? Besides the sinking. |
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Posted: 8/23/2004 1:10:35 PM EDT
[#31]
Looks like he rear-ended the F150 and is his fault. That doesn't look like a 45 mph crash, were you going 45 before braking to 25 and hit him, or were you going 45 when you hit him going 25, etc? |
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Posted: 8/23/2004 1:22:25 PM EDT
[#32]
Well I stand corrected and now find it hard to buy a $50,000 Ford without Eddie Bauer's name on it. Tj |
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Posted: 8/23/2004 1:32:08 PM EDT
[#33]
That looks at about 45 to me, me and my buddy were just in the same kind of wreck in a dodge ram, same speed. Tell you what though, its nice having a big vehicle in that king of situation, I barely felt an impact. Took about 8k to fix it all up. Its amazing what they can do with bodywork these days, 10 years ago it would have been considered totalled. Looks like nothing ever happened. |
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Posted: 8/23/2004 1:39:06 PM EDT
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Wear a seatbelt .....swim to the deep end of the gene pool Darwin skims the shallow-end often.
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Posted: 8/23/2004 1:46:30 PM EDT
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Just have someone else pay for it 
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Posted: 8/23/2004 1:51:04 PM EDT
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That's for an F-150? 
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Posted: 8/23/2004 1:55:17 PM EDT
[#37]
nice rover
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Posted: 8/23/2004 1:57:02 PM EDT
[#38]
prolly a little more sound deadening and other heavy interior bits that make for some of that weight. |
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Posted: 8/23/2004 2:48:32 PM EDT
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Sorry bought your luck ! ! I hope it ain't one of those ' runs in 3's ' things ! ! ! !
 This reminds me of the dude who had the post about not liking people who drive FORD trucks with the fish on the back ; I know somebody remembers that . 
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Posted: 8/23/2004 3:07:26 PM EDT
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I hit him giong 45 and didn't have time to hit my brakes for more than a second. I guess it was my fault, but I didn't get a ticket and guy guy told the cop he changed lanes too fast and he had to slam on his brakes. oh well glad I had full coverage
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Posted: 8/23/2004 3:12:21 PM EDT
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I don't think they fit 6K ponds in there, it's more like 6 puddles, and an unusual stain.
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Posted: 8/23/2004 3:26:58 PM EDT
[#42]
"He shot over into my lane" I was going by this statement. Sounded like the guy swerved infront of him. |
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Posted: 8/23/2004 3:30:13 PM EDT
[#43]
This sounds fishy... and not the pond part.
COuld this possibly be this other guy's fault? If not... I could use some $ and its easy to just fly in front of someone and hit the brakes... - BUCC_Guy 
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Posted: 8/23/2004 3:30:25 PM EDT
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Yes, I was poking fun at the spelling, but if you think weight has a direct correlation to braking distance, here are some specs I grabbed at random from Edmunds.com, in no particular order:
Toyota Prius, 2890 lbs, Braking Distance (60-0 mph): 131.65 ft. Jeep Liberty, 4150 lbs, Braking Distance (60-0 mph): 133 ft. Land Rover Freelander, 3577 lbs, Braking Distance (60-0 mph): 117.98 ft. Oh ETA one more: Porsche Cayenne, 5200 lbs, Braking Distance (60-0 mph): 116.34 ft. Ahahaha ETA again, you'll love this one: Honda Civic, 2339 lbs, Braking Distance (60-0 mph): 146 ft. |
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Posted: 8/23/2004 3:36:01 PM EDT
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If you didn't get a ticket it probably was not your fault. I got in an accident with an impact of I think 30-35 mph to a stationary vehicle. Passenger without seatbelt was nearly ejected (partially through windshield) and the car was about 1/2 its previous length. I got a couple of slipped discs, one helluva burn from shoulderbelt and messed up knees from the dash intruding into the front seats I guess a 1989 Ford Escort isn't quite as crash worthy as a new(er) range rover.Glad you're alright, and you should probably be greatful for airbags. My acquaintence that went into the windshield couldn't answer any of the EMT's questions and stayed in the hospital for a while. |
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Posted: 8/23/2004 3:37:47 PM EDT
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You mean there's different types of brakes each with their own stopping power?
Geez, I thought the rover would have the same brakes as my 90 accord. 
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Posted: 8/23/2004 3:41:04 PM EDT
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Most vehicles have enough braking power to skid the tires. After that, no extra "braking power" will help. A semi truck with enough braking power to potentially skid the tires will stop just as quick as anything else. The more wieght a vehicle has, the more traction it has so it all balances out. Other factors such as weight distribution, ABS systems, and tire compounds will have more of an effect. |
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Posted: 8/23/2004 3:41:37 PM EDT
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Yes, more weight requires more braking force to stop it from the same speed as a lighter vehicle. However more weight also creates greater available traction, making the tires more difficult to "lock up". Spinning tires have more grip than sliding tires and will stop a vehicle faster. I would bet the Porsche, has very powerful, well designed brakes, and is using all available traction to stop. My guess, is the Civic, has more traction than brakes, and better brakes could be fitted to decrease the stopping distance. |
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Posted: 8/23/2004 3:42:27 PM EDT
[#49]
Well, so is it harder to stop a 6000 pound vehicle or not?
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Posted: 8/23/2004 3:43:58 PM EDT
[#50]
better start wearing seat belts
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