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Posted: 10/29/2013 1:58:26 PM EDT
Thoughts?
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30/06
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.276 pedersen
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FNI
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9mm
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.300 brownout, of course.
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Yeah I was thinking the same thing.....30/06 would have been the standard till the 556 came out

 
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 2:00:58 PM EDT
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.56-56 Spencer
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Yeah I was thinking the same thing.....30/06 would have been the standard till the 556 came out  


7.5 swiss?

I'd have voted for that.
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Either .270 or .280 Enfield if the British had been able to market their work better with Army Ordnance Corps.

If the M14 wasn't so far behind on production, we could have seen a .224 x .25 Remington, or a 6mm Remington short in the AR15.

Market forces and aging rifles had a big influence on driving from 7.62x51 to 5.56x45 NATO. The AR15 was only meant to be a stop-gap temporary band-aid until the SPIW could be developed and produced.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 2:03:22 PM EDT
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.280/7mm FN

Original round for the FN/FAL.  Ballistically similar to the 7mm-08, basically a short action version of 7mm Mauser.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 2:03:32 PM EDT
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.280 British
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.280/7mm FN

Original round for the FN/FAL.  Ballistically similar to the 7mm-08, basically a short action version of 7mm Mauser.
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Original cartridge for the FN/FAL prototypes was 7.92x33.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 2:06:09 PM EDT
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Phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 2:06:47 PM EDT
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.22 Mag
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mecha with 30mm mini guns
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.303 british.








GD
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 2:11:33 PM EDT
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8mm mauser? Nato countries had plenty of it around
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7.5 French, the French put a lot of work in the 7.5, and did not like it when NATO went with the 7.62x51.
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303






























JK 30-06
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30-30
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This.
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Only what you see, pal.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 2:23:44 PM EDT
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I would HOPE .30-06...


Man, how awesome would an M14/M1A be if chambered in .30-06, eh??
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 2:36:45 PM EDT
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anyone who didn't answer .280 British doesn't know their small arms history.

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What about the 6 mm SAW for the ordnance board that isn't a fan of things not invented here.
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30/06 or 8mm both would've been good.
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A whole 40 watts? Dang, that might seriously annoy an attacking mosquito...
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i vote .22lr











































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45 acp
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Indeed. We'd probably still be using 7mm FALs with Picatinny rails today if that were adopted by NATO.
http://www.forgottenweapons.com/prototype-280-fal/

Link Posted: 10/29/2013 3:55:05 PM EDT
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In hitlerverse, they use 12 gauge.
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A pointy stick
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.478 Lazerath Warbird
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.280



So many countries have tinkered and played with the idea of a .275-.280 cartridges, and yet it is still overlooked.



UK looked at the .280 in the 50s



US had the Garand in .276 until McArthur stepped in. Then there was the military looking at the 6.8 round for the M-16 platform.



The US Navy looked at the 6mm with the Lee rifle.



Japan used the 6.5mm for awhile then decided they needed something closer to the 8mm Mauser.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 4:20:15 PM EDT
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Should have went with 6.5x55. Extremely efficient round that the Euros love. Why it never caught on much here boggles the mind.
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I would HOPE .30-06...


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statements like this make my head hurt.........good grief.......

you sound like a US Army ordnance officer of the era..........
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7.5 swiss?

I'd have voted for that.
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Yeah I was thinking the same thing.....30/06 would have been the standard till the 556 came out  


7.5 swiss?

I'd have voted for that.


You, sir, have excellent taste.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 4:24:41 PM EDT
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You, sir, have excellent taste.
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Yeah I was thinking the same thing.....30/06 would have been the standard till the 556 came out  


7.5 swiss?

I'd have voted for that.


You, sir, have excellent taste.

I'm a 6.5x55 shooter and would still have voted for 7.5 Swiss. It's a very accurate round
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 4:27:47 PM EDT
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Many probably do not realize the L1A1 (FAL) did not replace the No 4 Lee Enfield in British service......
but rather was adopted to replace the very short lived Rifle No. 9


basically killed off by US Army Ordnance forcing the 7.62mm NATO on the Brits

read more here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EM-2_rifle

chambered for this


with more info on the cartridge and its history here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.280_British

Yet another case of US Army ordnance really screwing the pooch due to having their
head firmly stuck up their butts
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 4:41:44 PM EDT
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30/06 more or less but you'd have seen a lot more variety. Brits would have done their own thing with their new round. Maybe Canada & Belgium would have followed. West Germany, Greece, Danes, Italians all odd six until developing new calibers or waiting for Uncle Sam to switch to something new. France, we know their decision. Mighty Luxembourg, 06. Spain, 7 mm then a shorter one for their cetmes. Norway, who knows. Iceland, snowballs and hunks of glacier. Holland, something saboted. Portugal, I'm not sure. They were latecomers anyway.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 4:42:23 PM EDT
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The .30/06 was the NATO standard, as well as the m1 garand. The us gave them to any country that wanted to fight communism. It's why there is Greek, Israeli, Korean, and even Iranian surplus m2 ball.  Winchester either sold or gave the tooling to pb beretta and Breda in Italy to manufacture new m1 garands for Denmark and other NATO countries.

Found that out after I came into a Danish contract m1 made by Breda every part on it was stamped bmb.
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45/70
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Only what you see, pal.
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Only what you see, pal.


So what's it gona be?
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 4:50:09 PM EDT
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The .30/06 was the NATO standard, as well as the m1 garand. The us gave them to any country that wanted to fight communism. It's why there is Greek, Israeli, Korean, and even Iranian surplus m2 ball.  Winchester either sold or gave the tooling to pb beretta and Breda in Italy to manufacture new m1 garands for Denmark and other NATO countries.

Found that out after I came into a Danish contract m1 made by Breda every part on it was stamped bmb.
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It wasn't for the Brits, Canadians, French, and maybe Norway. First three made up a huge chunk of NATO. There wasn't an across the board standard until the late 80's and SS109.
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404 Jeffries
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30.06
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Four Bore.



Ok seriously, the 30-06 would have been natural at the time.  
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