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Posted: 12/26/2005 6:23:15 AM EDT
I have an employee of middle eastern ethnicity threatening to file suit because (he is a 90 day probate employee btw) he is forced to have the day off on a holiday that is offensive to him and can't get paid for it because he is a 90 day employee...
He even threatened me the he would retain a lawyer if I didn't pay him holiday pay AND apologize for Christmas offending him. 
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Posted: 12/26/2005 6:26:51 AM EDT
[#1]
Tell him to go for it. If it is company policy that probationary employees do not get holiday pay, then it was condition of his employment. Sorry about his luck.
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Posted: 12/26/2005 6:27:06 AM EDT
[#2]
A long as that day is a scheduled shutdown day I wouldn't
think that would be a problem. When I worked in a facotry, that was our scheduled maintainance shut down time. I'd encourage him to waste his money on a lawyer. |
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Posted: 12/26/2005 6:28:10 AM EDT
[#3]
Fire him.
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Posted: 12/26/2005 6:28:57 AM EDT
[#4]
Find a reason to can this guy, this is a sign of things to come...
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Posted: 12/26/2005 6:30:19 AM EDT
[#5]
I couldn't believe this guy, I told him to shove it, and if he wanted to retain a lawyer for 4 hours of non worked pay (he's part time), go for it, the big boss has billions to spend on attorneys, I'm sure it'd be taking candy from a baby.
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Posted: 12/26/2005 6:32:18 AM EDT
[#6]
Drop back ten and punt...
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Posted: 12/26/2005 6:33:07 AM EDT
[#7]
Is Florida an at-will state?
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Posted: 12/26/2005 6:33:53 AM EDT
[#8]
He's in the wrong fricking country. Remind him this is the USA, not the middle east. He can go back to where he came from if he's so offended.
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Posted: 12/26/2005 6:33:56 AM EDT
[#9]
Yes, at will
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Posted: 12/26/2005 6:35:28 AM EDT
[#10]
Express your deepest sympathy for his hurt feelings and offer hin some pork rinds as a gesture of reconsciliaton.
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Posted: 12/26/2005 6:37:40 AM EDT
[#11]
Tell him it’s a Federal Holiday, I’m not a Christian and a day off never offends me. As for apologizing tell him to apologize to you for September 11. When he say’s he had nothing to do with that tell him tell him you have nothing to do with Christmas being a company holiday.
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Posted: 12/26/2005 6:40:05 AM EDT
[#12]
LOL I would also let him know that his services will no longer be required prior to his probation period ending. |
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Posted: 12/26/2005 6:44:58 AM EDT
[#13]
Smack!!!!!
I wish I had that pic of that ME guy getting smacked across the face. Kind of appropriate for this post.
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Posted: 12/26/2005 6:46:11 AM EDT
[#14]
Your company certainly has an isurance policy just for this kinda thing. Shit can him. |
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Posted: 12/26/2005 6:52:42 AM EDT
[#15]
On day 89, give him the ol' heave ho and tell him "Merry Christmas!"
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Posted: 12/26/2005 7:13:36 AM EDT
[#16]
I like that idea... he'll get his though...
Habeebs Supervisor: "Can you tell me if he is a probate employee?" Me: "Yes" HS: "Ok, he was 15 min late today and asked me to apologize for the traffic being backed up" 
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Posted: 12/26/2005 7:16:25 AM EDT
[#17]
Being an ex-HR guy myself, I will tell you something we learned.
"While they are on probation, they are better than they will ever be." This is a sign of things to come. Fire him immediately. |
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Posted: 12/26/2005 7:17:40 AM EDT
[#18]
PEOPLE are generally stupid!....................along with the majority of HR people I've met! |
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Posted: 12/26/2005 7:17:54 AM EDT
[#19]
Get rid of the asshole!
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Posted: 12/26/2005 7:20:25 AM EDT
[#20]
No kidding...hint of things to come.
Hopefully he doesn't know the alphabet; as in ACLU. EDIT: Keep us posted on this, will ya? It'll feel good to see him tuck tail and run, or get hammered in court. |
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Posted: 12/26/2005 7:21:48 AM EDT
[#21]
Will not be a problem, if it's an "at will" state. Probation means "we're looking at you and may fire you for any reason". They just got a reason. |
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Posted: 12/26/2005 7:33:59 AM EDT
[#22]
I disagree. He is in the RIGHT country if he plans to sue everyone for every little grievance and get rich by doing so. In the middle-east, he'd be shot in the head for even considering such an obsurdity. 
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Posted: 12/26/2005 7:39:17 AM EDT
[#23]
+1 Just tell him things are not working out... |
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Posted: 12/26/2005 7:43:45 AM EDT
[#24]
Shit. Can.
As already stated, a bad sign of things to come. Get rid of him, yesterday if possible. |
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Posted: 12/26/2005 7:53:58 AM EDT
[#25]
Well, I gave him the boot for insubordination
He barged in my office again, saying he called his relatives and they all said it wasn't fair that he wasn't getting holiday pay He called me a "racist fuck" for not honoring his holidays as well him: "You'll be hearing from my lawyer" me: ::sips coffee:: watch your step out the door, you are no longer covered by workers comp insurance I really want to kick the manager who hired him and wasted a $32 drug test in the nuts right now. |
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Posted: 12/26/2005 7:58:43 AM EDT
[#26]
You've got a point there...  
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Posted: 12/26/2005 8:00:44 AM EDT
[#27]
Couldn't have said it better myself |
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Posted: 12/26/2005 8:06:06 AM EDT
[#28]
You have more patience than I. I think you represented your employer well - especially not giving that guy more ammo. Once again, I understand why I don't work in an office environment.
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Posted: 12/26/2005 8:12:02 AM EDT
[#29]
Good comeback line.
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Posted: 12/26/2005 8:15:44 AM EDT
[#30]
"Get lost, freak!"
I might have said, you agreed to the policies when you started to work here. They WERE explained to you. You have no legal recourse. Besides, you could come to work on Christmas Day if you wanted to, but the building would be locked up tight and that's that. Amazing hypocrisy...he protests that he's forced to take a day off for a holiday he doesn't observe, and then he bitches about not getting paid for it? What a piece of work! The first sign that a company is starting to go down hill: When they have a department that's actually titled "Human Resources" or "HR". That's a bad sign. When they circulate a genuine written sexual harassment policy, it's a VERY bad sign. When they start objecting to your computer's desktop wallpaper, and it's not offensive to any sane human being, it's time to GO. Particularly if it's gun porn. CJ |
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Posted: 12/26/2005 8:38:36 AM EDT
[#31]
I dunno cm, a company this size couldn't operate without an hr department to handle payroll, benefits such as 401k administration, insurance, associate relations etc. It's not all just whacking people who don't follow policy.
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Posted: 12/26/2005 8:39:42 AM EDT
[#32]
I agree. The term "Human Resources" says it all. Humans are not a "resource".
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Posted: 12/26/2005 8:40:19 AM EDT
[#33]
Fire him.
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Posted: 12/26/2005 8:45:41 AM EDT
[#34]
Fire him and have security escort him out the door. I would think the threat of a lawsuit is cause.
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Posted: 12/26/2005 8:46:38 AM EDT
[#35]
Already done, see pg 1 bottom
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Posted: 12/26/2005 8:47:22 AM EDT
[#36]
I'm so happy that we are an all-inclusive nation that welcomes all people of varied ethnic and religous backgrounds and encourages them to go thier own way in thier beliefs,culture, customs and religions while doing all they can to destory ours here in the great USofA.
Yeah, I just Fu*&ing love it and can't wait for the next batch of pilots they welcome in... fullclip
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Posted: 12/26/2005 8:52:22 AM EDT
[#37]
It would not surprise me one bit if this entire situation, especially his termination, was manufactured. You were manipulated.
His lawyer will be a relative. They will settle out of court. If they do go to trial for a wrongful termination case, the liberal-minded idiots on the jury will find in his favor (no skin off their noses and your employer has deep pockets). Either way, he will get some money and not have to work for it. |
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Posted: 12/26/2005 9:00:09 AM EDT
[#38]
Yup. It's all downhill from here. Edited to say, "You did the right thing."
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Posted: 12/26/2005 9:04:26 AM EDT
[#39]
totally agree. If this is how he acts during a probationary period, I'd hate to see how he would act when not on it. |
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Posted: 12/26/2005 10:09:46 AM EDT
[#40]
Wow, someone you can fire on Christmas and NOT feel bad about it!
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Posted: 12/26/2005 10:18:25 AM EDT
[#41]
More words of wisdom from OP. Get rid of this guy or he will be a nightmare for you and everyone else to deal with. ETA:I see you did. Good job. I agree that HR attracts the lowest intellect in corporate management. No offense to OP. Not alol bad. FWIW, I haven't seen anyone, anywhere I have worked in the past 12 years who worked in HR that wasn't a woman or a queer. Figuring out where that has led us doesn't take a lot of contemplation. |
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Posted: 12/26/2005 10:22:06 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/26/2005 10:25:06 AM EDT
[#43]
That joker obviously took his entire next months perscription of stupid pills.
Reminds me of that John Wayne line about life being hard and being even harder when you are stupid. |
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Posted: 12/26/2005 1:08:02 PM EDT
[#44]
Shoot.
Shovel . Shut Up. |
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Posted: 12/26/2005 1:15:57 PM EDT
[#45]
Is he a citizen? Can ya get his dumb ass deported? Hell, I'm not Christian, don't observe Xmas, am forced to take 3 days off, no pay, while the plant is closed. I grumble about it a bit, and carry on. I'm not complaining to management or threatening to sue. Just the way it is, being an religious minority.
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Posted: 12/26/2005 1:16:13 PM EDT
[#46]
Loser 
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Posted: 12/26/2005 9:01:49 PM EDT
[#47]
Yes, 87 times! |
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Posted: 12/26/2005 9:04:34 PM EDT
[#48]
Cement Shoes
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Posted: 12/26/2005 9:48:25 PM EDT
[#49]
What he said. Bye Bye. An explanation would be a generous and good thing; everybody can use some education. And don't say anything stupid. Regards, Rick |
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Posted: 12/26/2005 10:00:27 PM EDT
[#50]
I think Lt Gen Honore said it best "Stuck on Stupid".
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