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Posted: 8/12/2005 1:08:14 PM EDT
Trijicon Inc. Wixom, Mich., is being awarded a $660,000,000 firm-fixed-priced, indefinite-delivery/indefinite-quantity contract for Rifle Combat Optics (RCO) fixed 4 power scopes designed for use with the M-16 family of weapons. The RCO enhances the Marine’s ability to identify and engage targets in combat situations at greater ranges and with increased accuracy over standard iron sights. The initial purchase will be 104,000 scopes at $610 each for a total initial delivery order of $63,440,000. The government may purchase up to a maximum of 800,000 RCO scopes on this contract over the five-year period the contract is in effect. Work will be performed in Wixom, Mich. (90 percent) and Fredericksburg Va. (10 percent), and is expected to be completed in August 2010. Contract funds will not expire at the end of the current fiscal year. This contract was competitively procured using full and open competition. The Marine Corps Systems Command, Quantico, Va., is the contracting activity (M67854-05-D-1061).
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 1:10:00 PM EDT
Haha I gots one already!
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 1:10:46 PM EDT
Those optics kick ass but they are well out of my price range. Hell the EOTech I just bought just about put me in the poor house.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 1:14:02 PM EDT
Wouldn't it be nice if .gov would let you get in on THAT group buy?
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 1:14:08 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 1:14:29 PM EDT
maybe the version for .308 will still be avaliable...I hope. they are just a few miles but so many dollars away from me...sigh
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 1:15:26 PM EDT
Wow, the USA military has finally discovered it. The civies knew about for years. I couldn't afford one back then, and probably couldn't justify it now(because I would be spendng the other half's money on this little toy). Who said the "difference between men and boys is the price of their toys?"
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 1:17:25 PM EDT
Exactly which model is this?
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 1:20:34 PM EDT
Would love one, but too much $$$ for me right now. I still need to finish my SPR
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 1:21:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By bulldog1967:
Exactly which model is this?



It's a "new" model called the TA31 RCO.
I've already seen them on eBay (?) when I sold my TA-01NSN a few months ago.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 1:22:26 PM EDT
My BSA 4x32 works just fine.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 2:00:35 PM EDT
Someone explain to me why these things are that good. Are they really worth that much scratch?
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 3:13:54 PM EDT
Yes, they really are that good.
1. Compact. Leaves plenty of room on the rail for a BUIS.
2. Solid. Very solid.
3. Reticle: Chevron/Donut. Quick and easy. Not so much with my old TA-01NSN reticle (fine and dim).
4. No batteries: The fiber optics and the tritium are fantastic and maintenance proof (for decades).

The only reason I sold my "SF model" was that it wasn't a TA31.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 4:46:12 PM EDT
Looks like I have to get one(or 2 now).
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 4:51:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/12/2005 4:58:33 PM EDT by Kharn]

$660,000,000 firm-fixed-priced, indefinite-delivery/indefinite-quantity contract for Rifle Combat Optics (RCO)
Ouch, firm fixed price is not good for the contractor in indefinite quantity buys, Trijicon is banking on the Marines not buying a whole lot of them or they could be in trouble if the Marines want to buy more than Trijicon planned. I'm suprised they didnt do cost-plus, but I digress. Anyone got the NSN?

ETA:
I'm an idiot and didnt read the whole article. If they're limited to 800,000 purchases, at $660mil, thats $825/ea, about what a normal Trijicon goes for commercially. Trijicon wins if the government doesnt buy 800k of them, the government only comes close to getting a deal if they buy 800k, I'm sorta wondering who got a good deal out of this...

Kharn
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 4:54:46 PM EDT

The government may purchase up to a maximum of 800,000 RCO scopes on this contract over the five-year period the contract is in effect.


799.999

Danny

P.S. Mine (RCO M-4) is Great, the TA-31 ain't bad either.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 4:56:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/12/2005 5:05:16 PM EDT by rayra]
Better buy Trijicon STOCK now.


ETA: Whups. Doesn't seem to be any.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 4:59:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/12/2005 4:59:35 PM EDT by BigT]
I've had a TA01B on backorder with Nice Shot (price with shipping was $721.94) since October 12, 2003!
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 5:02:26 PM EDT
Are they that good? Ask this MARINE .........

marinecorpsmoms.com/archives/2004/11/thanks_dad.html
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 5:04:02 PM EDT
Do they have these in Washington??
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 5:04:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By bulldog1967:
Exactly which model is this?



the tripower

Link Posted: 8/12/2005 5:10:09 PM EDT
NSN 1240-01-525-1648 is what is on the ACOG training course Power Point, I can confirm that on Monday off of one in my armory, however I look on Fedlog and its not there yet.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 5:24:16 PM EDT
What model is this again?

Link Posted: 8/12/2005 5:27:25 PM EDT
I wonder how long before you get them at discount GOV Surplus.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 5:29:12 PM EDT
Yes, they are definitely that good and yes, I believe they are worth the money.

I've never experienced a better gunsight. I mounted the 3x24 Compact ACOG on my A2. Once I learned the Bindon Aiming Concept, I became a far more accurate shooter. It really helped when I was shooting matches with multiple pop-up and moving targets from 10 - 500 meters. Admittedly, the max effective range of the compact is about 300m but I was able to effectively engage targets out to 400...with just a bit of Kentucky windage.

The ACOG is perfect for CQB because you shoot with both eyes open, one engaging the BGs and the other scanning for more targets.

I know it sounds crazy to those among us who have never used an ACOG but believe me they really work.

They are also REALLY tough. The local rep was at the Modern Day Marine Expo at Quantico last year where we also had a booth. He is a retired Gunny who convinced me to purchase one about seven years ago, when I was comparing several sighting systems. Last September, he told me they were getting some back from the Sand Pile all dinged up but they still worked. He even had a couple come in with the Tritium tube on top completely broken but the gunsight was still functional. He also told me that they are turning them out as fast as they can for all of our grunts in the field. Then I heard from another Gunny about a month ago that the gunsights are going to be mounted on all rifles used at the rifle range during boot camp because they are getting them in the field. (He also told me that The Corps is recommending Lasik surgery for all trigger pullers...and paying for it! )

Pricey...but a fine gunsight system. (For you .mil guyz in the Mid-Atlantic area, Quantico had some in stock about a week ago and they are about $100 less than in town.)
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 5:32:03 PM EDT
Mine came from G&R Tactical. (C4iGrant)

Danny

Link Posted: 8/12/2005 5:37:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By viper5194:
Are they that good? Ask this MARINE .........

marinecorpsmoms.com/archives/2004/11/thanks_dad.html


yeah but was it still working?
I guess it is not fogproof anymore
I have 2 TA31 RCO A4 and a TA01NSN
they are worth the money
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 5:40:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/12/2005 5:44:47 PM EDT by warlord]
Thank goodness for the civilain firearms sector, otherwise there wouldn't such thing as Trijicon etc.

I tried my buddy's ACOG, it took some getting used to keep both eyes open during aiming procedure but once you get the hang of it(which took all of 5 minutes). And its tougher than your mother-in-law because he has said he's drop it a few times, it still works like a champ.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 5:44:23 PM EDT

Originally Posted By LWilde:
Then I heard from another Gunny about a month ago that the gunsights are going to be mounted on all rifles used at the rifle range during boot camp because they are getting them in the field. (He also told me that The Corps is recommending Lasik surgery for all trigger pullers...and paying for it! )



That is incorrect, while in recruit training they will not receive an RCO, they will fire the same KD course as Marines have shot for years. In the fleet, the goal is that all rifles and carbines have a optic, however it may take quite a long time for that, with group and wing units being the last to get them.

The current plan for rifle training in the fleet will have 3 days of SLR fire with table 1, followed by 2 days of table 2, basic combat shooting. Table 3 is intermediate combat shooting and will be done at units, this table is unit and Table of Organization specific. More than like table 3 will include the ACOG qual/shoot, table 4, advance combat shooting is only required of infantry MOSs. However table 4 will be expected of many divisional Marines.

The Marine Corps does recommend laser corrective surgery, but not LASIK. PRK is the only authorized method at this time and what is done in Navy hospitals. I had it done in Portsmouth a few years back and now its at most hospitals.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 5:50:05 PM EDT
Me too!!!!

Dont worry their will always be used ones for sale.

FREE




Originally Posted By ARDOC:
Haha I gots one already!

Link Posted: 8/12/2005 5:50:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By metroplex:
My BSA 4x32 works just fine.



mine too!! and thats all we need!!!!
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 5:56:27 PM EDT
Well, I'd say Michigan needs prosperous companies more than most states right now! Everyone else is running 4-5% unemployment, while Michigan is around 7-8%. Too much emphasis on the auto industry...everyone works for the big three or a subsidiary/subcontractor.....

Link Posted: 8/12/2005 5:59:03 PM EDT
Eh...just go with a EOTech or a Leupold CQ/T
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 6:04:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/12/2005 6:09:22 PM EDT by dcobra23]
Fuck that go to a Leuopy!

Link Posted: 8/12/2005 6:14:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/12/2005 6:55:46 PM EDT by GunnyG]

Originally Posted By STLRN:
NSN 1240-01-525-1648 is what is on the ACOG training course Power Point, I can confirm that on Monday off of one in my armory, however I look on Fedlog and its not there yet.



Concur. That number matches the NSN on my TA31RCO-A4. The draft TM that came with it has "TBD" listed for the NSN for the TA31RCO -M4.
Link Posted: 8/13/2005 5:01:41 AM EDT
GySgt

The I looked at one of TM 11064-12&P for the sight. On page 32, list of NSNs, the NSN for the A4 RCO is listed, the M4 RCO is still TBD. The nomenclature is: Sight, Bore, Optical TA31RCO-A4 (For use on M16A4)
Link Posted: 8/13/2005 5:38:11 AM EDT
Love my TA-31F. Basically the same thing as the RCO model but without the horizontal stadia lines.
Link Posted: 8/13/2005 6:01:54 AM EDT
with that many units out, it's only a matter of time before you'll be able to buy a used or refurb for a few hundred bucks
Link Posted: 8/13/2005 6:08:04 AM EDT
I find them to be a little too much $$ to play internet commando.
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