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Posted: 1/19/2015 11:15:42 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/19/2015 11:17:31 AM EST by Aimless]
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to arms to arms!
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FUCK ALL HOAs
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He signed the HOA rules and bylaws agreement. His problem.
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Originally Posted By Whizzinator:
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Yup! One of my neighbors suggested we have an HOA. The whole lot of us said go fuck yourself!
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 11:19:16 AM EST
I really wonder about people who welcome a HOA into their lives.

Don't get me wrong, I like some order in my life but jeez a HOA?
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Originally Posted By TacticalHeater:
He signed the HOA rules and bylaws agreement. His problem.
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You know how I know you didn't read the article?
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 11:20:09 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Aimless:
The association owns all the driveways in the development, according to court filings.
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People are weird.

ETA: Why not just have the HOA own everything, and residents can pay a fixed monthly amount to go towards the servicing of mortgages, maintenance, taxes, etc? They could call that amount "rent," I'd think it would really streamline the whole deal.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 11:20:21 AM EST
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Orlandos' lawyers said in court papers that the Orlandos' pickup is a "private, passenger-type, pleasure automobile" and therefore is in compliance with the rules. Orlando and his lawyer, Tom Cerio, said the pickup is registered with the state as a "passenger vehicle" and not as a commercial vehicle. And the Orlandos do not have commercial drivers' licenses.



That would suck in Florida... My Avalanche weighed so much it automatically was classified as a commercial vehicle here even though it was our personal vehicle.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 11:20:35 AM EST
HOA =
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 11:20:38 AM EST
The HOA next door to me complains about me all the time, I laugh, next year it will be a BBQ for all my stripper customers.... and cops I know...hahaha...we will call the police! We are the police
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 11:21:19 AM EST
HOA's are usually run by power-hungry dimwits who have moved on from youth-athletics or PTA power struggles to the big leagues of HOA's.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 11:21:19 AM EST
Here, sign this contract that says you'll pay us money in order for us to dictate your life at home.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 11:21:23 AM EST
This is exactly why I keep asking "Why would anyone purchase a home in and HOA?"

You give up all you rights when you sign the agreement. Fuck that shit!!!


EBR666
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 11:22:43 AM EST
Very common out here in CA

Link Posted: 1/19/2015 11:23:12 AM EST
That is nuts.
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Since the HOA owns the drive way does that mean anyone who slips and falls on that icy drive way can sue the HOA for everything it has?
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 11:23:20 AM EST
I'm sure there are no other pickups in driveways. Fuck HOAs
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I am not convinced that he violated the rules.
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Originally Posted By TacticalHeater:
He signed the HOA rules and bylaws agreement. His problem.
I am not convinced that he violated the rules.
And this is why you are a lawyer. Someone has to get to the bottom of this.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 11:23:23 AM EST
Originally Posted By Aimless:
The association owns all the driveways in the development, according to court filings.
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So park that bitch in the middle of your front lawn.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 11:24:06 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Aimless:
Originally Posted By TacticalHeater:
He signed the HOA rules and bylaws agreement. His problem.
I am not convinced that he violated the rules.



My guess is that he signed something that allowed them to interpret it.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 11:24:45 AM EST
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Originally Posted By DragoMuseveni:

You know how I know you didn't read the article?
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Originally Posted By DragoMuseveni:
Originally Posted By TacticalHeater:
He signed the HOA rules and bylaws agreement. His problem.

You know how I know you didn't read the article?



You know how I know that you have never dealt with any HOA's?


You want to sign a one sided document and then expect them not to be able to change or interpret.... well then by all means go ahead.


PS. I read the article. I followed the links and read the bylaws and rules. How far did you get?
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 11:24:46 AM EST
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Originally Posted By SilverSlinger:
HOA's are usually run by power-hungry dimwits who have moved on from youth-athletics or PTA power struggles to the big leagues of HOA's.
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I once lived in an HOA community.
I had a couple run-ins with them, however in my case, they were right: I wasn't abiding by the contract.
That being said, I would never do it again. The assholes in charge are..................assholes. And the quote above is exactly right. Most of them are on a power trip. And some of them use their position to try to make every one conform to what THEY want and not nessesarily what is in the contract.


In the city I lived in at the time, almost any house you would actually want to buy, there was an HOA. Only the older, more run down neighborhoods didn't have HOAs. There really wasn't much option other than to leave the city. Within about two or three years I left the city and commuted 70 miles.
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Originally Posted By TacticalHeater:
He signed the HOA rules and bylaws agreement. His problem.
I am not convinced that he violated the rules.


Yeah, I can't see how this one doesn't go to the home owner.

The people that suddenly decide they want to raise a 20 foot flag in their front yard....

Their fault
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 11:26:02 AM EST
Looking at buying a house and my first rule was no HOAs. I don't need any people with too much time on their hands worrying about where I store my garbage cans.
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Originally Posted By TheWind:
The HOA next door to me complains about me all the time, I laugh, next year it will be a BBQ for all my stripper customers.... and cops I know...hahaha...we will call the police! We are the police
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And play this loud lol.

Link Posted: 1/19/2015 11:26:34 AM EST
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HOAs strike again!
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 11:26:38 AM EST
I would never live in an HOA. Never.

On the other hand, I own a beach house that I rent out and it is in an HOA, and they do a GREAT job of keeping the place looking nice and keeping the riff raff out.

They do have their place.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 11:28:11 AM EST
HOAs are communism on our shores.....
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Originally Posted By MillerSHO:
I really wonder about people who welcome a HOA into their lives.

Don't get me wrong, I like some order in my life but jeez a HOA?
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Around here, no HOA is a selling point.
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Originally Posted By Whizzinator:
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Originally Posted By fttam:
I would never live in an HOA. Never.

On the other hand, I own a beach house that I rent out and it is in an HOA, and they do a GREAT job of keeping the place looking nice and keeping the riff raff out.

They do have their place.
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This. I also own properties under an HOA.

I'll also add its just not that hard to win an election and get yourself on an HOA board and straighten their shit out. Especially if there is a tyrant that everyone hates. My wife has done it twice.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 11:30:18 AM EST
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Originally Posted By MARINEORDIE:

Yup! One of my neighbors suggested we have an HOA. The whole lot of us said go fuck yourself!
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Originally Posted By Whizzinator:
FUCK ALL HOAs

Yup! One of my neighbors suggested we have an HOA. The whole lot of us said go fuck yourself!


I like my HOA in our rural subdivision. We can't have the vehicle up on blocks in the front yard, although the side yard seems to be OK. We can't have pigs. Every other animal is good to go. There's cows, horses. sheep, goats, chickens, ducks, geese, and who knows what else. I've even seen one Emu. Any permanent dwelling has to be at least 600 sf and can't be made from used building materials. After a little incident where a mobile home was so rotted out that it fell apart being moved here (luckily on the county road right before it got here, so it was the counties problem), all used mobile homes have to be looked at before them can be moved in.

The rules are harsh, but we manage.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 11:30:28 AM EST
I just bought a couple of acres on a dead-end street with no HOA.

My property value will probably not go up, due to the mobile homes, Cadillac skeletons, abandoned appliances and kid's toys, general disrepair, and shrubbery that surrounds my modestly maintained yard/home.

You know what? That's not why I moved there.
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Originally Posted By TacticalHeater:
He signed the HOA rules and bylaws agreement. His problem.
I am not convinced that he violated the rules.

Well it's the Board's job to interpret the Covenants. Hope they have D&O.


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He signed the HOA rules and bylaws agreement. His problem.
I am not convinced that he violated the rules.

Yep. The HOA's assertion that his personal pickup by definition is not a "passenger vehicle" is idiotic. Also, just going by that one picture IMO those homes don't look nearly fancy enough to worry about even commercial vehicles in driveways much less personal pickup trucks.
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Originally Posted By MillerSHO:
I really wonder about people who welcome a HOA into their lives.

Don't get me wrong, I like some order in my life but jeez a HOA?
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Depends on what you want in a home.

If your lifestyle fits a particular mold that is consistent with HOA rules, it's a nice deal to avoid neighbors doing things that can kill your property value.

If you are the kind of guy who wants more freedom to do whatever the hell you want, then it's probably not a good fit.


Link Posted: 1/19/2015 11:35:04 AM EST
I don't see the problem. I expected an old junker with four flat tires.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 11:36:00 AM EST
my brother lives in one of those communities.no pickups in the driveways or motorcycles.
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this




Link Posted: 1/19/2015 11:36:19 AM EST
It sounds like its going to cost the HOA money no matter how it turns out.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 11:36:44 AM EST
HOAs were the answer to libertine libertarians who thought they could do anything as long as it didn't hurt someone.
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Originally Posted By Dynamo:

Yep. The HOA's assertion that his personal pickup by definition is not a "passenger vehicle" is idiotic. Also, just going by that one picture IMO those homes don't look nearly fancy enough to worry about even commercial vehicles in driveways much less personal pickup trucks.
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Originally Posted By Aimless:
Originally Posted By TacticalHeater:
He signed the HOA rules and bylaws agreement. His problem.
I am not convinced that he violated the rules.

Yep. The HOA's assertion that his personal pickup by definition is not a "passenger vehicle" is idiotic. Also, just going by that one picture IMO those homes don't look nearly fancy enough to worry about even commercial vehicles in driveways much less personal pickup trucks.



Simple solution. HOA changes the covenants.

Reading the HOA agreement, homeowners/renters, agree that if there is a 56 homeowners to vote YES on adding trucks to the list of vehicles then they are legally able to change the very definition. Apparently they have had dozens of complaints on the guys truck in the driveway judging by their meeting minutes... so getting 56 is probably not going to be a stretch.



Apparently the issue isn't as much as with trucks as it's with heavy vehicles because they have light asphalt driveways. Driveways are also not homeowner property, HOA owns it all.


Appears that other home owners complied to have their trucks removed from the driveways.



Looking at their other meeting minutes and how they fine residents for accidentally driving off the driveway, having satellite dishes, etc , I go full circle back to my first comment "his problem, he signed the damn HOA agreements". Why you would buy a property and not own any of it's exterior is beyond me.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 11:37:45 AM EST
its fayetteville, doesn't surprise me at all.

fuck them, I hope he wins
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 11:38:18 AM EST
Heard of this before. I don't think there's any limit to what an HOA would do given the power.

Link Posted: 1/19/2015 11:40:01 AM EST
Elections have consequences seems fitting for some reason.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 11:40:59 AM EST
Meh my HOA isn't bad. But it's about a dozen houses in a rural area. Everyone has trucks, and the guy in charge is always out working on his old chevy.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 11:41:16 AM EST
some twit likely just has his panties in a bunch over this gent owning a truck instead of a car.


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HOAs were the answer to libertine libertarians who thought they could do anything as long as it didn't hurt someone.
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Seriously?

I highly doubt that.

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