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Posted: 3/17/2005 11:46:42 AM EST
There is an article about a copy of the HK 91 (or maybe its G3, anyways their .308 semi auto) made on HK tooling in the USA by a company I thought called DLT Enterprises, in this months American Rifleman. Anybody got a link and or any info on this rifle? Thanks.
Link Posted: 3/17/2005 11:50:16 AM EST
I saw that and was wishing they put an MSRP in it. I have no other info than you though.
Link Posted: 3/17/2005 11:52:03 AM EST
PTR-91 by JLD

Link Posted: 3/17/2005 11:52:35 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/17/2005 11:52:52 AM EST by MineIsBigger]
Link Posted: 3/17/2005 11:55:54 AM EST
Thanks folks.

I believe the MSRP listed in the article was $1250.

Anybody have any input on the quality of these things?
Link Posted: 3/17/2005 11:58:32 AM EST
site says "Made in the USA with HK/FMP blueprints, tooling and machinery."
Link Posted: 3/17/2005 11:59:55 AM EST
From what I've seen so far, if it is a JLD that you're referring to, they are pretty good quality. They have available a model with a target barrel that is supposed to be sub-moa. Check the boards at www.hkpro.com or www.hkweaponsystems.com and you can get more info.

Link Posted: 3/17/2005 12:01:17 PM EST
I've heard nothing but good things about them. Gun Tests Magazine raves about them also. That should tell you something.
Link Posted: 3/17/2005 12:02:33 PM EST

Originally Posted By rtr:
Thanks folks.

I believe the MSRP listed in the article was $1250.

Anybody have any input on the quality of these things?

I sold mine, didn't like it very much.

The recoil was HARSH. The piece of metal that attaches to the stock and the other end attaches to the receiver bent from the force of the bolt hitting it, making a gap between the stock and that piece of metal. And that was after only 300 rounds of Wolf.

I also got some FTE's, it was wierd as hell because some of the casings were actually turned around 180 degrees in the area that they eject from (I forget the name of that area, it's the area right behind the chamber that the bolt sits in when forward and is open space when the bolt is pulled back).
Link Posted: 3/17/2005 12:03:37 PM EST
oh no. now i want to spend more money
Link Posted: 3/17/2005 12:05:38 PM EST
you can pick one up for around $700 new
Link Posted: 3/17/2005 12:13:06 PM EST
I paid less than $700 new for mine. Not one hiccup with over 300 rounds of mostly Port and some Aussie. It shot great, about 2 inches at 100 yards, which is pretty much the limit of my eyesight.

It does have a vicious kick, making my M1 and M1A feel nearly like .22's. I guess the massive trunnion and bolt flying back into the back of the reciver had something to do with that. The stocks is of american make and crappy, but you can easily find good H&K stocks.

When you order one, go ahead and order a sight adjustment tool for it, since they won't get adjusted any other way. Some people grind down a hemostat, but even that didn't work on mine.

Mags are currently $1.97 from CTD.com, or approximately %5 of what I pay for good M1A mags.

That's about all I can remember right now, but I just woke up. Any other other questions, just ask.
Link Posted: 3/17/2005 12:15:25 PM EST
tago
Link Posted: 3/17/2005 12:16:19 PM EST
For $1250 you could buy a nice Greek made SAR 8. Best clone of the HK91 if you can even consider this a clone.
Link Posted: 3/17/2005 12:17:06 PM EST
Anyone planning to buy one, be VERY CAREFUL taking your first shots, this thing throws brass extremely hard and far. I guess it's good that you can't reload brass out of it's fluted chamber because it fires out randomely at around 30-45 feet.
Link Posted: 3/17/2005 12:19:14 PM EST

Originally Posted By rtr:
There is an article about a copy of the HK 91 (or maybe its G3, anyways their .308 semi auto) made on HK tooling in the USA by a company I thought called DLT Enterprises, in this months American Rifleman. Anybody got a link and or any info on this rifle? Thanks.



when did your copy show up?

I will look forward to this review/article.

Thanks
Link Posted: 3/17/2005 1:08:15 PM EST
I got my American Rifleman on March 16, 2005, I live in Colorado.

Thanks for all the info folks.
Link Posted: 3/17/2005 1:16:30 PM EST
how long have these been on the market?
Link Posted: 3/17/2005 1:18:20 PM EST

Originally Posted By TheSelecter:
how long have these been on the market?

A while, I got mine in October but I've read some people talking about buying them in August.
Link Posted: 3/17/2005 1:28:44 PM EST

Originally Posted By rtr:
Thanks folks.

I believe the MSRP listed in the article was $1250.

Anybody have any input on the quality of these things?




Ask SteyrAUG

Haven't seen him lately????
Link Posted: 3/17/2005 1:32:36 PM EST

Originally Posted By MineIsBigger:
Anyone planning to buy one, be VERY CAREFUL taking your first shots, this thing throws brass extremely hard and far. I guess it's good that you can't reload brass out of it's fluted chamber because it fires out randomely at around 30-45 feet.



This is nothing new, that is how a HK91 should kick out brass.
Link Posted: 3/17/2005 1:33:47 PM EST

Originally Posted By TheSelecter:
how long have these been on the market?



They have been on the market for a long time now. I have to say that I am impressed with how they look. I think I might buy one some day and give my HK91 a rest.
Link Posted: 3/18/2005 2:42:51 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/18/2005 2:45:04 AM EST by limaxray]
Yes, very stout recoil and you can knock someone out at 20 yds with the ejected brass, but UZI4U is incorrect--you can reload the brass after firing it in the fluted chamber, you just can't reload it after it's been beat up by the ejector, the ejection port, the floor, and the wall of the range while moving at 200 fps.

My average is only about 50% of the brass is reloadable after going through that ride, especially after shooting in an indoor range with concrete floor and cinderblock walls.
Link Posted: 3/18/2005 3:27:51 AM EST
Agree w/ ARDOC, go SAR 3 or 8 route. I picked one up a Sar 3/8 overstamp LNIB 99% for $900 out the door last month. $20 got me 10 HK factory mags. $125 got me 1k rounds of Port. Good to go It does have a heavy trigger pull (10lbs.) but very accurate none the less. About the same as my m4 w/ an aimpoint at 100 yds. Recoil is very managable but remember, no "nose to the charging handle" cheek weld

Only problem that I've had with mine is the paint has flaked off the reciever in the area where it says "Sar 8 Sporter EBO GREECE". Any one know a good paint/finish that matches?
Link Posted: 3/18/2005 3:31:41 AM EST
Link Posted: 3/18/2005 3:51:26 AM EST
It pisses me off to see the group sizes that they got in the article. My turd only gets 4MOA, but I still like shooting it.
Link Posted: 3/18/2005 5:11:50 AM EST
Atlantic firearms has some pretty good prices on these be sure to ask for the AR15.com discount.
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