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Posted: 4/20/2010 3:18:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/20/2010 3:21:14 AM EDT by GseriesFal]
An update on an ugly but reliable design. Im sorta liking it. Definitely has enough space for all the Doo-Dads Arfcomers like. The 9mm is currently available. A 40 SW is supposed to be available next month and a 45 ACP version is due out in August. At $275 MSRP this might make a perfect truck gun.









Barrel length: 16.5" Weight: 7 lbs. Capacity: 10-shot magzine standard
Overall length: 31" Stock: All-weather, black molded polymer Sights: Fully-adjustable



All Hi-Point carbines are +P rated to accept all factory ammunition and feature:

All-weather, black polymer skeletonized stock 100% American-made parts and assembly
Sling, swivels and scope base
Internal recoil buffer in stock Last round lock open
Multiple Picatinny rails Optional forward folding grip
Quick on/off thumb safety Optional flashlight
Grip-mounted clip release Optional laser



Link Posted: 4/20/2010 3:19:33 AM EDT
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 3:22:09 AM EDT
Old news. I was selling those 6 months ago.
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 3:22:54 AM EDT

Originally Posted By kap_x:

Yeah, guess they shoulda left ugly enough alone.

Thankfully theres ATI stocks, because while they aren't great, they're cheap and good enough.

The Hi-Point carbine is a very fun little plinker.
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 3:23:17 AM EDT
Originally Posted By kap_x:


I agree. That's just not for me
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 3:28:44 AM EDT
i tell ya what, i bout one at a pawn shop a while back, in .40 cal, went to the range that same day and burned through 100 rounds without any failures at all. damn good little guns for the price.
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 3:28:48 AM EDT
That is one ugly gucking fun
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 3:34:42 AM EDT
ugly. uglier, ugliest
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 3:37:12 AM EDT
And why can't those idiots reconfigure the grip to take a double stack mag? I'd by one if it held more rounds.
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 3:37:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/20/2010 3:39:19 AM EDT by Badlatitude]
When somone says truck gun I think of a gun that has a purpose. Not a pistol caliber piece of crap that a company hung more toys on to make it look tacticool.


PS I had one of their standard ones in 9mm. I had to return it because the seam in the plastic on the gun seperated.

Link Posted: 4/20/2010 3:38:21 AM EDT
I'll just hold onto my Kel-Tec Sub 2000...
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 3:41:51 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Wave:
I'll just hold onto my Kel-Tec Sub 2000...


Those are a nice gun, and the fold in half feature makes it so much more stowable. I just wish they'd update the mold to add one small rail area for a light in the front, though it's easy enough to drill and mount some rail pieces on it.
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 3:49:04 AM EDT
Originally Posted By tojan19:
And why can't those idiots reconfigure the grip to take a double stack mag? I'd by one if it held more rounds.




In a word...California.
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 3:55:15 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Hoppy:
Originally Posted By tojan19:
And why can't those idiots reconfigure the grip to take a double stack mag? I'd by one if it held more rounds.




In a word...California.
Hi-Point carbines are banned in California.

Link Posted: 4/20/2010 3:55:31 AM EDT

Originally Posted By tojan19:
And why can't those idiots reconfigure the grip to take a double stack mag? I'd by one if it held more rounds.


+1
The original version is better looking (if that is even possible). Have shot them a few times. Never any functional issues, but the single stack mag is retarded.
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 3:59:19 AM EDT
From a cosmetics standpoint, I like that aftermarket Beretta-looking stock better.
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 4:00:11 AM EDT
No folding stock?
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 4:06:09 AM EDT
I've probably shot tens of thousands of rounds through one of the originals without so much as a hiccup that wasn't operator error. They're cheap, fun, reliable carbines. I don't know that the new design is up my alley, the ATI stock on the original give them a nice look and a good solid feel, a huge improvement over the ugly factory stock.


Did they build in a last round bolt hold-open yet?
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 4:13:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/20/2010 4:14:01 AM EDT by thunderw21]
Originally Posted By masfonos:
I've probably shot tens of thousands of rounds through one of the originals without so much as a hiccup that wasn't operator error. They're cheap, fun, reliable carbines. I don't know that the new design is up my alley, the ATI stock on the original give them a nice look and a good solid feel, a huge improvement over the ugly factory stock.


Did they build in a last round bolt hold-open yet?


They did with the new models.
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 4:15:05 AM EDT
Originally Posted By ED_P:
Originally Posted By Wave:
I'll just hold onto my Kel-Tec Sub 2000...


Those are a nice gun, and the fold in half feature makes it so much more stowable. I just wish they'd update the mold to add one small rail area for a light in the front, though it's easy enough to drill and mount some rail pieces on it.


Kel-Tec makes a light rail that goes right on the gun, no drilling required. They've been available for severla years.
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 4:17:34 AM EDT
Still ugly as sin.

BUT. having owned one, It was reliable and accurate and over all a fantastic rifle.

I sold it because my Kel-Tec Sub2k works the same, uses Glock mags, and fits in a backpack.
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 4:17:42 AM EDT
No thanks...

Link Posted: 4/20/2010 4:19:38 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Madcap72:
Old news. I was selling those 6 months ago.


What are your customer reviews like?
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 4:22:41 AM EDT
Originally Posted By GLOCKREAPER:

Originally Posted By Hoppy:
Originally Posted By tojan19:
And why can't those idiots reconfigure the grip to take a double stack mag? I'd by one if it held more rounds.




In a word...California.
Hi-Point carbines are banned in California.




This has to be fairly recent. When introduced they made a deal with California to sell there if they made a proprietary ten round mag. It had something to do with the mag fitting into the handle if I remember correctly.

Link Posted: 4/20/2010 4:22:51 AM EDT
I have a very old carbine in 9mm. It's ugly as sin and the factory stock is flimsy and fragile (I replaced it with the much tougher ATI stock). However, it's reliable as hell. It's the only autoloader I own that has never jammed.
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 4:23:51 AM EDT
I bet they sell millions
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 4:24:55 AM EDT
Originally Posted By peekay:
No thanks...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3361/3314766831_eb99c06d3b_b.jpg


And for what you paid for that, I could've bought a very nice AR....
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 4:27:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By thorshammerblow:
I bet they sell millions

They can't produce them fast enough.
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 4:28:14 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Hoppy:
Originally Posted By GLOCKREAPER:
Hi-Point carbines are banned in California.

This has to be fairly recent. When introduced they made a deal with California to sell there if they made a proprietary ten round mag. It had something to do with the mag fitting into the handle if I remember correctly.


They have been banned since (SB) 23 went into effect on January, 1 2000.
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 4:32:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By JamesP81:
Originally Posted By peekay:
No thanks...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3361/3314766831_eb99c06d3b_b.jpg


And for what you paid for that, I could've bought a very nice AR....

More like 2 or 3

Link Posted: 4/20/2010 4:40:18 AM EDT
Originally Posted By peekay:

Originally Posted By JamesP81:
Originally Posted By peekay:
No thanks...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3361/3314766831_eb99c06d3b_b.jpg


And for what you paid for that, I could've bought a very nice AR....

More like 2 or 3



My only use for a PCC is a range plinker, to take advantage of the cheap(er) ammo cost (vs. rifle ammo ) . I wouldnt spend over 500 bucks on one.

Link Posted: 4/20/2010 5:12:35 AM EDT
Originally Posted By ReallyLongAction:
Originally Posted By peekay:

Originally Posted By JamesP81:
Originally Posted By peekay:
No thanks...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3361/3314766831_eb99c06d3b_b.jpg


And for what you paid for that, I could've bought a very nice AR....

More like 2 or 3



My only use for a PCC is a range plinker, to take advantage of the cheap(er) ammo cost (vs. rifle ammo ) . I wouldnt spend over 500 bucks on one.



Don't know what you are missing.


Link Posted: 4/20/2010 5:54:29 AM EDT
UGLY!!
No thanks
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 5:57:56 AM EDT
Plinking guns don't need all that ugly tactical crap, I'd rather have a Marlin Camp Carbine.
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 5:58:04 AM EDT
Looks like it has AIDS.
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 6:24:19 AM EDT
Originally Posted By kap_x:


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Link Posted: 4/20/2010 6:28:27 AM EDT
At least with that ugly little thing, you can be the 10th owner, run reloads through it, blow it up, and Hi-Point will replace it.

Try that with a $1200.00 HK.
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 6:29:32 AM EDT
Originally Posted By peekay:
No thanks...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3361/3314766831_eb99c06d3b_b.jpg


LOL.

You could buy about 7 Hi Points and a few hundred rounds for the price of one of those. Kinda like comparing a Marlin bolt-action to a Cheytac...
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 6:31:36 AM EDT
For <$300...

I'll take one in .40
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 7:54:36 AM EDT
Originally Posted By GLOCKREAPER:

Originally Posted By Hoppy:
Originally Posted By GLOCKREAPER:
Hi-Point carbines are banned in California.

This has to be fairly recent. When introduced they made a deal with California to sell there if they made a proprietary ten round mag. It had something to do with the mag fitting into the handle if I remember correctly.


They have been banned since (SB) 23 went into effect on January, 1 2000.



For some of us that is fairly recent.

Link Posted: 4/20/2010 7:57:37 AM EDT
I don't know why that company can't make a single product that is even remotely aesthetically pleasing.
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 8:00:52 AM EDT
I keep telling them they need to make one in .45 ACP, fed from 1911 magazines.
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 8:01:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/20/2010 8:03:48 AM EDT by jhereg]
I'd probably have one it it took a high cap mag I already use. If it took Glock mags I would have one. If it took S&W mags I probably would. On the other hand with their single stack mag it's not going to happen. What's the point of a low cap single stack mag pistol caliber carbine which uses a different mag than my pistol? This is something that Kel-Tec got right. On the other hand, if the mag isn't going to match my pistol it had better hold 25 - 30+ rounds of ammo. That's where my 9mm AR comes in.
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 8:05:18 AM EDT
Finally something uglier that the Ruger P85.
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 8:07:03 AM EDT
Stallard/Hi Point had the corner on the ugly gun market long before Ruger decided to start firing up the molds.
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 8:19:10 AM EDT
yeah, no thanks.
I would rather have a camp 9 as already mentioned. Or one of the ruger carbines in 44mag
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 8:22:11 AM EDT
I'd rather have a M92 lever action. 16" barrel, 8+1, can get it in .357, .44, or even .454 casull.

Handy, light, reliable. Around $400.

- AG
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 8:26:15 AM EDT
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 8:27:40 AM EDT
Been selling um for awhile aside from the goofy spring loaded recoil pad they are rock solid and a tremendous improvement over the old one
which wasn't terrible to begin with
would I sell my Colt or RRA 9mms for one ? no but they work well and are worth more than the cost IMO
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 8:28:19 AM EDT
Originally Posted By buckfever34:
I got one and love it....fun, reliable, and decently accurate little plinker.


I'm thinking I'll wait till they show up used at the gun or pawnshop and pick one up for the Jeep.
Link Posted: 4/20/2010 8:29:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/20/2010 8:30:00 AM EDT by www-glock19-com]

Originally Posted By swingset:
At least with that ugly little thing, you can be the 10th owner, run reloads through it, blow it up, and Hi-Point will replace it.

Try that with a $1200.00 HK.

I had exactly that happen guy stuck 3 bullets in a 40 caliber carbine barrel
bulged it a bit
Hi point rebuilt the thing no questions asked and sent him a new sling , scope mount and magazine back with it to boot

their pistols are shit but if I was young and broke I would be all over a Hi Point rifle
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