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Posted: 5/24/2005 4:51:18 PM EDT
I need a good place to hide some weapons and other small stuff. I do not have room for a gun safe. Any one have any ideas where or possibly what I can construct to hide a couple of rifles? I want the location to be within my house and be fairly easy to access.

Any ideas or comments would be appreciated. Thanks
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 4:52:20 PM EDT
first tell me your address and then I'll help you.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 4:53:49 PM EDT
Any closet that is irregularly shaped is a great place for a false wall.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 4:56:51 PM EDT
I have built several "hidden rooms" and "false sliding walls-bookcases" for people over the years. I actually have the similar I built in my house.
Consider something like that.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 4:56:59 PM EDT

Look at the top of your kitchen cabinets. Depending on how they are made you may have a few inches of space there between the top of the cabinet and the top of the face. One apartment I lived in had that and I cut boards to fit between the wall and back of the face that stood about 4" above the top of the cabinets. If you cut them carefully so they friction fit they look like the top of the cabinets. Set some plants or whatever on top to complete the job.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 4:58:35 PM EDT
Most bedroom closets, the ones with the sliding doors, have an area above the door where you can screw in brackets to hang a rifle or a shotgun inside the closet above the doors.

Opening the closet door and looking in, you will not see the firearm unless you stick your head in the closet and look up. That's a good spot. Most people don't think to look there.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 5:03:20 PM EDT
And now I know where to look for guns. Thanks.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 5:06:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By WHITE_WOLFE:
I need a good place to hide some weapons and other small stuff. I do not have room for a gun safe. Any one have any ideas where or possibly what I can construct to hide a couple of rifles? I want the location to be within my house and be fairly easy to access.

Any ideas or comments would be appreciated. Thanks



I am from the gov. and I'm here to help you.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 5:10:13 PM EDT
The fridge!

Link Posted: 5/24/2005 5:10:40 PM EDT
Before I had a gun safe, I used to hide a handgun in my kitchen and bathroom trashcans under the plastic bag liner. The logic being, what burgler is interested in the contents of a trashcan.

Also, if you have a hide-a-bed couch, you can fold a rifle or three in with the matress. The backs of couches could be modified to conceal a couple of rifles or shotguns too if you know you way around apolstry.

With some work you can hollow out a storage area in a mattress box spring. Waterbeds are as popular as they used to be but there was a lot of space under them that could be used to conceal a rifle. That is, if you have a waterbed.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 5:13:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/24/2005 5:15:36 PM EDT by Dace]
Hide it under your mattres.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 5:15:08 PM EDT
If you're in a house, put your firearms into VCI baggies, and stash in the first floor floor joists... ie the ceiling of your basement.

Tack a couple of "one by's" across a few joists, and throw pieces of scrap lumber up there.

Stash the toys on top. Invisible from floor level.

Removing the kick plate from kitchen cabinets is anopther stash spot... but make sure it's not a weight bearing piece (cheap cabinets).
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 5:16:40 PM EDT
A lot of book shelves have a hollow area at the bottom. The panel in front is usually held in place with dowels. You can cut the back of the panel where the dowel holes are so that the panel will come off from the front. This is a good spot to hide anything, even a rifle if the shelf is wide enough.

Here is a picture, look at the bottom:

Link Posted: 5/24/2005 5:20:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By sysop:
Also, if you have a hide-a-bed couch, you can fold a rifle or three in with the matress.



...and if you opened the sleeper sofa real quick like ...the rifle would come flying out.
With enough practice, you could be a bad MOFO!
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 5:28:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Dace:
Hide it under your mattres.



Wrong.

That's one of the first places thieves will look for loot.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 5:39:25 PM EDT
Got a dog? How about a dog crate? Cover it with a blanket and wire a small ledge 1/2 way in. Gun goes on ledge. Hollow doors, cut off part of the edge and slip a handgun in it. wire a gun inside the freash air return cover. [warning: it'll get dusty quick tho] Slip a rifle behind the top of a curtain [bigger window] use leather ties. This works best when you either have a dbl curtain set or blinds behind them. Just leave blind partially down so insiders can't see it.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 5:40:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/24/2005 5:40:35 PM EDT by mr_camera_man]
For some smaller items...

In-wall gun safe. Hang a full-length mirror or something on the wall over it.

Link Posted: 5/24/2005 5:40:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/24/2005 5:55:15 PM EDT by DienBienPhu54]
>you could disguise a rifle by hiding it in your attic imbedded in the shredded fiberglass insulation, most thieves dont spend enough time in your house to find it, it will definitely prevent the typical grab & run type of burglary.

>you could make special attachments and hide a handgun under the kitchen sink

>behind your refridgerator

>inside the washing machine, by using a screwdriver and removing the panel, there is lots of empty space inside, to hide a broken down AR or a rifle with side folding stock or maybe a couple handguns

[but be sure to properly wrap them in sealed plastic bags to prevent moiture from damaging your guns]

>you could hide a couple pistols wrapped up in plastic bags at the bottom of your dry dog food bin

>in your back yard under bags of peat moss or garden dirt

>hidden behind large planters or flower pots, or inside a flower pot with artificial plants on top to conceal it

>inside your dog's house or under the dog house

>if you have a backyard deck, you could hide something under there

>under the house, if you have a house that has an empty space below

>inside the central heating & air vents

> handguns at the bottom of a barrel filled with motor oil in your garage or workshop

>for weekend getaways or short term storage you could bury a couple handguns in your garden or flower bed inside a sealed GI ammo can, then cover with woodchips to camo the fresh dirt

>if you have a driveway covered in rock or gravel you could easily dig a hole and store a couple pistols or a rifle, then cover with rocks and gravel to camoflage



Link Posted: 5/24/2005 5:46:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/24/2005 5:54:37 PM EDT by Mauser101]
Small frame pistol. Put into a sandwich bag. Put a desicant bag into bag with gun. Wrap in another bag. Grab empty peanut butter jar, put wrapped up gun into jar. Put jar into toilet tank resevoir.

Cuts down on your water bill too.

Or you could always use a bracket to Hide-a-gun

I've also seen these handgun picture frames quite a few times.

EDIT: I have also seen false air vents around as well. Looks like a normal vent but it is actually a storage space.

I LOVE the sliding door closet idea.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 6:02:05 PM EDT
Get a black plastic VHS tape case, line with some thin foam, put small frame handgun inside,mark it "OPRAH'S BEST". No man should ever touch it, women might.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 6:06:27 PM EDT
I put mine in the kitchen.

T­he wife will never find them there.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 6:06:42 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 6:11:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FieroLoki:
And now I know where to look for guns. Thanks.



Yeah, threads like this do potentially expose information otherwise un-available to a criminal element, but you know, the vast majority of criminals don't tend to have even free memberships at ARF.com. As a matter of fact most criminals would rather sell a computer for their next meth/crack fix than pay for internet access.

We're not dealing with rocket scientists here. Rocket Scientists tend to have things like jobs instead of drug addictions.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 6:13:43 PM EDT
Oh and, .....

Attics are always good too. Not all that accessable but burglars don't generally explore attics unless they know something is there or they have a whole lot of time on their hands.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 6:14:38 PM EDT
Tag
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 6:19:07 PM EDT
buried in a shallow hole then covered with rocks or gravel, then park an old car or truck or RV over it.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 6:19:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ikor:
Also...clothes dryer under a bundle of clothes...what thief would look there? (I know several people who have thwarted burglars this way for valuables when on vacation) False walls are not that difficult to build, but can be a bear if you want to access them regularly...as in hide the guns permanently...with no evidence.



In the bottom of a dirty clothes hamper.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 6:23:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DienBienPhu54:
buried in a shallow hole then covered with rocks or gravel, then park an old car or truck or RV over it.



WHITE_WOLFE said "be fairly easy to access."

This would lead me to believe that burried under the driveway or burried under anything but some dirty clothes or a trashbag liner would not apply.

Just an observation.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 6:55:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By WHITE_WOLFE:
I need a good place to hide some weapons and other small stuff. I do not have room for a gun safe. Any one have any ideas where or possibly what I can construct to hide a couple of rifles? I want the location to be within my house and be fairly easy to access.

Any ideas or comments would be appreciated. Thanks



Final post in this thread from me.

WHITE_WOLFE, imagine that you are a burglar. Then walk into your house wanting to grab as much valuable stuff as quickly as you can and get out.

Unless the burglar actually knows you have guns they will be looking for electronics and jewelry. If the burglar is looking for guns then they probably know you and you thought they were someone you trust but have turned out to be untrustworthy.

Burglaries can be be roughly categorized into three groups.

Group A: This is the most common. A drug addict breaks into a random home in search of something he/she can sell fast for a fix.

Group B: Someone you thought was a friend breaks in to steal what they know you have and where you hide it.

Group C: Professional Burglar that most of us don't have to worry about because they are not after electronic equipment or guns. They are after diamonds, real as apposed to costume jewelry, cash and priceless works of art etc.

Group A, is pretty easy to deal with.

Group B, is a bit more complicated. For example when I was in highschool I knew this guy who along with his brother burglarized his own parents house, in which he lived, while they were on vacation.

Group C, gunowners generally don't have to worry about the Group C burglar. We are not a target for them.

Since my group A, B, C examples are generalizations there will no dounbt be exceptions that I am sure will be posted but I think I've pretty much covered all the bases.l

A lot of good ideas were posted here. Use them to your best advantage.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 6:56:12 PM EDT
Behind the drywall, punch thru as needed.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 7:19:34 PM EDT
Front yard pond, like Pierce Brosnan hinking.gif
http://x2.putfile.com/5/14322162390.jpg
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 7:23:08 PM EDT
I so have to finish watching that movie.....


Originally Posted By Joe357:
Front yard pond, like Pierce Brosnan
x2.putfile.com/5/14322162390.jpg

Link Posted: 5/24/2005 7:31:18 PM EDT


Above the drop ceiling....nice and dry.

Strategically placed (and remembered) can be gotten to quickly.


Link Posted: 5/24/2005 7:39:08 PM EDT
Just don't forget where you put them!
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 7:49:45 PM EDT

as mentioned, waterbeds---

if a person had a spring mattress in there instead of a water matress, the spring matress can be flipped up easily, and the plywood underneath that pulled upward, revieling the gun. worked for me one time, gun wasnt found.


futon couches- behind the upright part of the matress., ive stored a rifle there, had people sit on the couch and never know its there.


heating ducts- ive stored a shotgun in the heating duct in the past, remove two screws and slide it out at an angle- of course it has to be well wrapped to keep the dust out.

i used to store a Glock underneath the dresser drawer where you pull the drawer out, that also worked for me, gun wasnt found.

those are all the EASY ideas i have... i dont keep guns in those places anymore caus ei have a good heavy gunsafe now.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 7:56:41 PM EDT
I know it's not quick or easy, but I took a few B.O.B. supplies, an SKS, and 20 stripper clips of ammo and used the vacumme sealer to water proof the whole unit (I use that thing more than the Old Ball and Chain does, it crushes EVERYTHING!). I wrapped the whole thing in Duct tape, then I burried the package in a safe spot, now I have a ready to go "SHTF kit" about a foot down in loose "flower bed" type of soil.

On another note, my better half and I are about to get a new house and I really want to put up a false wall in front of a closet door. Who has the link to the False wall/Bookshelves? hug.gif
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 7:59:18 PM EDT
Artificial Christmas tree box (cardboard).

I know it works. I was broken into years ago, and had kept my guns in the Christmas tree box as a last resort because space was tight. I had it in the closet, with some blankets overtop. They rummaged through the closet, stole some golf clubs, but skipped right past the box.
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 7:59:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/24/2005 7:59:58 PM EDT by Mauser101]

Originally Posted By Gixxerpunk:
I know it's not quick or easy, but I took a few B.O.B. supplies, an SKS, and 20 stripper clips of ammo and used the vacumme sealer to water proof the whole unit (I use that thing more than the Old Ball and Chain does, it crushes EVERYTHING!). I wrapped the whole thing in Duct tape, then I burried the package in a safe spot, now I have a ready to go "SHTF kit" about a foot down in loose "flower bed" type of soil.

On another note, my better half and I are about to get a new house and I really want to put up a false wall in front of a closet door. Who has the link to the False wall/Bookshelves?



Out of intrest, how insane did she think you were went you were burying the BOB?
Link Posted: 5/24/2005 10:22:00 PM EDT
First get a razor blade and very carefully,



­

go peel those NRA and 5.56 stickers off of you truck, you know, the one that's
standing in your driveway?
Link Posted: 5/25/2005 1:22:07 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Mauser101:

Out of intrest, how insane did she think you were went you were burying the BOB?



She already thinks I am completely nuts, so it was just "another day, another strange hole in her flowerbeds" he
Link Posted: 5/25/2005 1:45:15 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SS109:
Just don't forget where you put them!



AMEN> Write the locations down and put them in a safety deposit box.
Link Posted: 5/25/2005 5:51:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/25/2005 5:53:25 AM EDT by WHITE_WOLFE]

Originally Posted By RABIDFOX50:

Originally Posted By WHITE_WOLFE:
I need a good place to hide some weapons and other small stuff. I do not have room for a gun safe. Any one have any ideas where or possibly what I can construct to hide a couple of rifles? I want the location to be within my house and be fairly easy to access.

Any ideas or comments would be appreciated. Thanks



I am from the gov. and I'm here to help you.



LMAO I knew something like this was coming. You guys are great. Thanks for so many ideas. You have all got me to thinking and now I have several ideas to think about. Now does any one know if you can attach hinges to a mirror?
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