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Posted: 10/20/2006 7:14:26 AM EDT
I am looking for serious suggestions for LEGAL things my neighbors and I can do to put IMMEDIATE and PROFOUND pressure on this guy.

I will not allow this PIECE OF SHIT to threaten my girls and my community.

What can I do?  I would love some help in this matter from the Atlanta area crowd.

Cabby

UPDATE
______________________________

HE's GONE.

www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12495633/

Watch part 4.
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 7:16:45 AM EDT
[#1]
Guess he left Los Angeles then.  

Thank Goodness you're stuck with him
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 7:17:07 AM EDT
[#2]
Keep an eye on him and on your kids, and if he does anything illegal or suspicious, report it to the police?

What general area are you in, BTW?

"Immediate and profound pressure" sounds like a recipe for getting yourself arrested for assault, intimidation, menacing, or harassment.
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 7:17:25 AM EDT
[#3]
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 7:18:23 AM EDT
[#4]
What area around Atlanta?  I'll think on it and see what I can come up with.  I'm in Duluth if you need a hand.
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 7:18:38 AM EDT
[#5]
Put a bleltfed in your front yard and man it all day incase you see him. Stare at him incessantly when ever you see him.  

Link Posted: 10/20/2006 7:19:41 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
I am looking for serious suggestions for LEGAL things my neighbors and I can do to put IMMEDIATE and PROFOUND pressure on this guy.

I will not allow this PIECE OF SHIT to threaten my girls and my community.

What can I do?  I would love some help in this matter from the Atlanta area crowd.

Cabby



I don't think there's ANYTHING you can do, because he has not been convicted of anything, and is not a registerd sex offender.

Most likely, even technically LEGAL things could potentially end up being the basis of a civil suit, if you are trying to harass him.  
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 7:32:39 AM EDT
[#7]
Kill it with fire
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 7:37:16 AM EDT
[#8]


the answer here should be obvious:

draw down!


Link Posted: 10/20/2006 7:40:39 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I am looking for serious suggestions for LEGAL things my neighbors and I can do to put IMMEDIATE and PROFOUND pressure on this guy.

I will not allow this PIECE OF SHIT to threaten my girls and my community.

What can I do?  I would love some help in this matter from the Atlanta area crowd.

Cabby



I don't think there's ANYTHING you can do, because he has not been convicted of anything, and is not a registerd sex offender.

Most likely, even technically LEGAL things could potentially end up being the basis of a civil suit, if you are trying to harass him.  


Going to +1 this one.

The guy may be a loon but even IF he was convicted, there are laws to protect him. All you can do is be aware of what goes on with your kids. We have a Team Member here that is dealing with a convicted child molester as a neighbor and other than make the other neighbors aware of this dirtbag, there isn't a thing he can do without legal ramifications.
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 7:41:32 AM EDT
[#10]
Ok, what neighborhood and why don't you also post this in the hometown forum?
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 7:42:08 AM EDT
[#11]
just don't let that sick fuck anywhere near you or your family. Always keep yourself between him and them
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 7:42:22 AM EDT
[#12]
You know what needs to be done.
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 7:45:27 AM EDT
[#13]
I would check with local laws first, and then if legal, consider flyers posted in community centers, telephone poles, stop signs, or even protests in front of his house.
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 8:03:02 AM EDT
[#14]
Place a large sign in your front yard with his pic and address...the problem will go away.
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 8:40:37 AM EDT
[#15]
Sorry for the delay in replying.

Got to work some time you know.

I live in the Chastain Park Area.  He has moved to his father's home on Merlendale Dr., which is THREE BLOCKS from a very busy PLAYGROUND that my 2 year old and five year old girls play at often.  I don't know if he lives in Sandy Springs or City of Atlanta.  I don't have the exact address and I don't want it.

I don't plan to do anything illegal, and I don't plan to have any kind of contact with this man directly or indirectly.

I am working up a flyer with his picture on it.  I was planing to post it at the playground and on the walking path around the park.
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 8:43:09 AM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:


Nice post.  Very helpful.  Thanks.
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 8:47:33 AM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
I would check with local laws first, and then if legal, consider flyers posted in community centers, telephone poles, stop signs, or even protests in front of his house.


What kind of flyers?

This piece of shit hasn't been convicted of anything.


If you put IN PRINT accusations about child molestation, child porn, etc - then my impression is he can EASILY sue (and win) for defamation of character/slander/whatever the legal term is.

I suppose he COULD put out a friendly - "Welcome to the neighborhood" flyer, explain to everyone in a 10-block radius how awesome it is to have a "celebrity" living among them.  

However - I'd imagine (but am not a legal expert) that IF he were later harassed, the person who distributed those flyers might still be named in a civil suit.

Link Posted: 10/20/2006 8:49:46 AM EDT
[#18]
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 8:50:34 AM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
Sorry for the delay in replying.

Got to work some time you know.

I live in the Chastain Park Area.  He has moved to his father's home on Merlendale Dr., which is THREE BLOCKS from a very busy PLAYGROUND that my 2 year old and five year old girls play at often.  I don't know if he lives in Sandy Springs or City of Atlanta.  I don't have the exact address and I don't want it.

I don't plan to do anything illegal, and I don't plan to have any kind of contact with this man directly or indirectly.

I am working up a flyer with his picture on it.  I was planing to post it at the playground and on the walking path around the park.



This is a good idea, make them look EXTREMELY obvious!......and keep doing it untill he leaves!
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 8:53:13 AM EDT
[#20]
Keep him happy down there so he won't move to my 'hood.   Start with some milk and cookies and a "Howdy neighbor!"
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 8:54:24 AM EDT
[#21]
For post 556 I bring you.


Quoted:
You know what needs to be done.


YES, I do!!!  I believe this is a good depiction of the actions that need to be taken.


Of course I can't do that.  After all I have already violated the third "S" by posting all this stuff on the interweb.  Maybe it will be done, just not by me.
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 9:10:10 AM EDT
[#22]
1. This POS still has the legal right to live anywhere he wants.  Harrassing him in some mannor, even if it seems perfectly legal, could get your ass in a sling.  Thank God he is not in my neighborhood.

2. You can go to jail for harrassment, especailly when the guy isn't a registered sex offender.  There isn't much legal you can do except keep a good watchful eye out and inform your children about pedos and this one in perticular.  He's a nut job and who knows what he is actaully capible of.  You might want to consult legal councel before posting flyers, posters or distributing letters to the fact he is there.  

3. You said your neighborhood, are we talking down the street, in the subdivision or somewhere in town?  There are a lot of guys out there just a sick as he is.  You should already have things in place to protect your children.  If he is across town, I wouldn't worry about changing the protection measures you already have in place.  If he is just down the street, I would seriously consider CCTV for the areas my kids play or constant supervision plus a good alarm system.

Link Posted: 10/20/2006 9:16:43 AM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I don't think there's ANYTHING you can do, because he has not been convicted of anything, and is not a registered sex offender.

Most likely, even technically LEGAL things could potentially end up being the basis of a civil suit, if you are trying to harass him.  



Going to +1 this one.

<snip>.


+2.  I would advise against the flyers.  Even convicted sex offenders have pursued litigation for people "papering" the neighborhood.


Here in Texas not only do we paper the hood, (they can't do squat about it) butt we can als erect a sign in their front yard.
Gotta love the Lone Star State.
We had a kiddie molester in our neighborhood and we passed out flyers all over.
Unfortunately he still lives here, but at least everyone knows who he is.
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 9:19:16 AM EDT
[#24]
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 9:24:04 AM EDT
[#25]
Oh fer Chrissakes.  You guys are always whining about everybody needs to leave California because of the draconian gun laws, and somebody finally does and you complain about it.
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 9:25:17 AM EDT
[#26]
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 9:28:27 AM EDT
[#27]
In before the lawsuit

Lacking a conviction or status that would declare him a risk to the community - I don't know that you have any recourse that has legit weight.  The illegal solutions are likely to get you sued - and he probably has a platoon of lawyers following him around looking for a juicy lawsuit.
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 9:48:55 AM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
I don't think there's ANYTHING you can do, because he has not been convicted of anything, and is not a registered sex offender.

Most likely, even technically LEGAL things could potentially end up being the basis of a civil suit, if you are trying to harass him.  



Going to +1 this one.

<snip>.


+2.  I would advise against the flyers.  Even convicted sex offenders have pursued litigation for people "papering" the neighborhood.


Here in Texas not only do we paper the hood, (they can't do squat about it) butt we can als erect a sign in their front yard.
Gotta love the Lone Star State.
We had a kiddie molester in our neighborhood and we passed out flyers all over.
Unfortunately he still lives here, but at least everyone knows who he is.


He's not a convicted molester.  Without that conviction, you'll get in hot water, even in Texas.
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 9:51:38 AM EDT
[#29]
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 9:55:55 AM EDT
[#30]

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Oh fer Chrissakes.  You guys are always whining about everybody needs to leave California because of the draconian gun laws, and somebody finally does and you complain about it.
Gold.
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 9:57:11 AM EDT
[#31]
I would make sure that every child in the neighborhood knows his face and knows to stay away from him.  I would also make sure that he does not feel a sense of welcome.  It might be advisable to form a neighbor hood watch and make sure that the media knows where he is.
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 9:58:00 AM EDT
[#32]
Just let your kids know NOT to get within a country mileof this fruit and don't worry about the rest.  Someone, at some point is gonna tag this nut case and you won't have to do a thing about it.
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 9:58:43 AM EDT
[#33]
So exactly where did he go in the ATL Metro area?

Inquiring minds would like to know.
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 10:04:23 AM EDT
[#34]
Starting a neighborhood watch program is a good way to get to know your neighbors and discuss potential problems.  After that you can organize a class or have the local pd give a class on predators to the younglings.

Make the kids smarter, keep an eye on the freaks.
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 10:08:21 AM EDT
[#35]
In Mississippi, his home would "spontaneously combust", probably with him in it, and no one would be able to recollect a thing...

I'm sure his next-door neighbors are thrilled...
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 10:09:57 AM EDT
[#36]
paper the neighborhood keeping in mind that truth is an absolute defense in matters of slander and libel.
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 10:12:17 AM EDT
[#37]
If he's not in prison, he is clearly no threat to society.

Take off your Drama Queen dress.  Prom isn't for 5 more months.
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 10:15:48 AM EDT
[#38]

Quoted:
paper the neighborhood keeping in mind that truth is an absolute defense in matters of slander and libel.


The problem is that the original poster (nor does anyone else on this board, presumably) doesn't know what the truth is.  What do we actually know about the guy?  I've heard enough to think he's a pretty sick individual, but I don't know what facts I could post that aren't incomplete or out of context.  Can you post signs that say "so-and-so was arrested for kiddie porn" without mentioning that the charges were also dropped?  I'm not sure what you could claim was truth about the whole Jon-Benet confession thing.
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 10:18:12 AM EDT
[#39]

Quoted:
In Mississippi, his home would "spontaneously combust", probably with him in it, and no one would be able to recollect a thing...

I'm sure his next-door neighbors are thrilled...


It's not even his house.  
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 10:19:12 AM EDT
[#40]
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 10:22:20 AM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:

Quoted:
In Mississippi, his home would "spontaneously combust", probably with him in it, and no one would be able to recollect a thing...

I'm sure his next-door neighbors are thrilled...


It's not even his house.  



Perhaps someone could just climb in his window and stab him to death.

After all, we KNOW he's a child molester, right?







All I KNOW about this Karr fellow is that he tricked a Colorado DA to buy him a free business-class plane ticket from the far east to the U.S.
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 10:31:16 AM EDT
[#42]
Get together with your neighborhood and have a meeting with your little kids there about staying the fuck away from him.
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 10:36:50 AM EDT
[#43]

Quoted:

Quoted:
paper the neighborhood keeping in mind that truth is an absolute defense in matters of slander and libel.


The problem is that the original poster (nor does anyone else on this board, presumably) doesn't know what the truth is.  What do we actually know about the guy?  I've heard enough to think he's a pretty sick individual, but I don't know what facts I could post that aren't incomplete or out of context.  Can you post signs that say "so-and-so was arrested for kiddie porn" without mentioning that the charges were also dropped?  I'm not sure what you could claim was truth about the whole Jon-Benet confession thing.



you could post a picture with his name and "look who's moved into the neighborhood!"

his reputation precedes him
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 10:36:53 AM EDT
[#44]
OMG, you mean the guy who didn't kill JonBenet Ramsey?  The unregistered sex offender?

I saw him in a bar in San Diego a couple of weeks ago.  Or maybe someone who looks just like him.
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 10:38:56 AM EDT
[#45]
Invite him over for dinner.



Midway through, casually mention that meat was in fact not liver, it was the remains of the last chomo that moved in town.


Link Posted: 10/20/2006 10:43:56 AM EDT
[#46]

Quoted:
paper the neighborhood keeping in mind that truth is an absolute defense in matters of slander and libel.


And no one knowing you put the papers out because you made them at home, destroyed the rest of the paper, used gloves, and put them up at night is even better.  No, I don't live anywhere near there, and I have a good alibi.  My air conditioner on my car is broken, and I don't drive anywhere anymore because I hate the heat.  Plus, I need new tires.  Definitely not me that's putting any fliers up.
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 10:47:30 AM EDT
[#47]

Quoted:
OMG, you mean the guy who didn't kill JonBenet Ramsey?  The unregistered sex offender?

I saw him in a bar in San Diego a couple of weeks ago.  Or maybe someone who looks just like him.



You should have killed him, just to be sure.
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 10:50:13 AM EDT
[#48]
I knew the Karr man was innocent the first time I saw him.  There's no WAY he likes girls of any age.
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 10:53:16 AM EDT
[#49]
John Mark Karr (born December 11, 1964 in Conyers, Georgia) is an American celebrity. He is most famous for making a false confession[1] regarding the unsolved murder of six-year-old JonBenét Ramsey.[2] Ramsey was found beaten and strangled in the basement of her family's home in Boulder, Colorado, on December 26, 1996. Karr said he was present when Ramsey died and called her death an "accident".

Authorities were made aware of Karr via e-mails he exchanged over the course of four years with Michael Tracey, a journalism professor at the University of Colorado. They eventually located and identified Karr through telephone calls he was lured into making to Tracey.[3]

Karr was arrested in Bangkok, Thailand, on August 16, 2006, by Thai authorities, then released to U.S. agents and flown first to Los Angeles, California,[4] then to Boulder for further investigation. On August 28, prosecutors announced they had decided not to pursue charges in connection with the murder after DNA tests failed to place Karr at the scene,[5] although serious doubts had been expressed about the veracity of his admission even before the tests were conducted.[6] Karr was held in Boulder until September 12, 2006, when he was transported to Sonoma County, California to face unrelated misdemeanor child pornography charges.[7] The charges were dismissed by a California judge on October 5, 2006, and Karr was immediately released. [

He is very sick. Looks like he was looking for fame and did not get it. What will he do next for the camera
Link Posted: 10/20/2006 10:53:44 AM EDT
[#50]

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In Mississippi, his home would "spontaneously combust", probably with him in it, and no one would be able to recollect a thing...

I'm sure his next-door neighbors are thrilled...

 Nice post clown.
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