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Posted: 1/17/2015 11:56:19 AM EST

This was sent to me today. I hope its not true.


http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/12/08/wounded-warriors-project-a-legal-scam/
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 12:00:56 PM EST
Most/many large charities are top heavy like that
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 12:03:03 PM EST
$155mil in revenue and the top level exec. only gets $333k?

Honestly, sounds fair.

As far as WWP being a scam, there have always been questions as to how much exactly is done for veterans, and there are far better sources to get more money directly to the hands of the disabled.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 12:03:51 PM EST
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Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:
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They could always hire a fry boy at $9/hour to run the company and see how much money gets donated.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 12:04:19 PM EST
unfortunately most of the funds they collect go to them for running their charity. Funny how they want everyone to donate EXCEPT them. As a vet i am offended by their business model. they appear to be making a living off of our backs.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 12:05:28 PM EST
Scam? If you're comfortable with that label. In reality, it is not out of line when compared to other large charities. Running a business, and American charities are businesses, is very expensive.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 12:05:31 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/17/2015 12:10:09 PM EST by Tekpc007]
i used to work for a large well known international childrens charity , and after a few years of seeing the execs get 6 digit very high salaries like 400k/yr and flying 1st class , buying 10k$ worth a computer equip/gadgets per person when 2k$ worth would have been fine and running up 4k$ a month cell phone bills and 1k$ bar/food tabs every day, I left and have never donated a penny to anything again.

selling tears is very profitable.

if you want to help people , buy the stuff yourself and get hands on with those in need so you see where it goes and how its used.
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Link Posted: 1/17/2015 12:06:52 PM EST
Inefficient, antigun, and morally bankrupt. Fuckem.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 12:07:57 PM EST
As mentioned, all charities and non-profits are nothing more than a scam. You are paying for private jets and high class hookers, a trickle of change might actually be given to the people in need.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 12:08:06 PM EST
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Originally Posted By AKengineer:
Inefficient, antigun, and morally bankrupt. Fuckem.
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Yep
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 12:08:25 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/17/2015 12:13:48 PM EST by JR12Valve]
I wouldn't call it a scam, but they don't do near as much as they could for veterans.

I used to volunteer with the Coalition to Salute America's Heroes, and that was great for about two years, then it went down the same path as WWP.

Now, the only veterans charity I donate/volunteer with is SOWW.

Great group of guys here:
http://www.sowwcharity.com/
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 12:09:45 PM EST
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Originally Posted By magilla:
unfortunately most of the funds they collect go to them for running their charity. Funny how they want everyone to donate EXCEPT them. As a vet i am offended by their business model. they appear to be making a living off of our backs.
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In this world there are those who pedal the bicycle and those who steer the bicycle. It sucks to wake up and realize that you pedal.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 12:10:21 PM EST
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Originally Posted By AZBADBOY:
As mentioned, all charities and non-profits are nothing more than a scam. You are paying for private jets and high class hookers, a trickle of change might actually be given to the people in need.
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yea, a trickle of $100,000,000 in the case of WWP. Fuck charities.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 12:12:27 PM EST
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Originally Posted By bteamleader:

In this world there are those who pedal the bicycle and those who steer the bicycle. It sucks to wake up and realize that you pedal.
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Originally Posted By bteamleader:
Originally Posted By magilla:
unfortunately most of the funds they collect go to them for running their charity. Funny how they want everyone to donate EXCEPT them. As a vet i am offended by their business model. they appear to be making a living off of our backs.

In this world there are those who pedal the bicycle and those who steer the bicycle. It sucks to wake up and realize that you pedal.

Wow.. so deep and profound. My balls itch.



Link Posted: 1/17/2015 12:12:30 PM EST
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Originally Posted By magilla:
unfortunately most of the funds they collect go to them for running their charity. Funny how they want everyone to donate EXCEPT them. As a vet i am offended by their business model. they appear to be making a living off of our backs.
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exactly this.

Lots of better chairties to give to. By better I mean much lower % of "overhead" = higher % to intended recipients.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 12:12:56 PM EST
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Originally Posted By AZBADBOY:
As mentioned, all charities and non-profits are nothing more than a scam. You are paying for private jets and high class hookers, a trickle of change might actually be given to the people in need.
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Not this one
Special Operations Warrior Foundation
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 12:13:15 PM EST
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 12:14:53 PM EST
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Originally Posted By maggiethecat:


exactly this.

Lots of better chairties to give to. By better I mean much lower % of "overhead" = higher % to intended recipients.
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Originally Posted By maggiethecat:
Originally Posted By magilla:
unfortunately most of the funds they collect go to them for running their charity. Funny how they want everyone to donate EXCEPT them. As a vet i am offended by their business model. they appear to be making a living off of our backs.


exactly this.

Lots of better chairties to give to. By better I mean much lower % of "overhead" = higher % to intended recipients.


And lower total amount. If you call that a win for veterans, well, I don't know what to say.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 12:14:55 PM EST
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Originally Posted By magilla:
unfortunately most of the funds they collect go to them for running their charity. Funny how they want everyone to donate EXCEPT them. As a vet i am offended by their business model. they appear to be making a living off of our backs.
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After repeated attempts to work with them the race team I crew on had become venomously anti wounded warrior foundation before I left last year.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 12:19:40 PM EST
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Originally Posted By AZBADBOY:
As mentioned, all charities and non-profits are nothing more than a scam. You are paying for private jets and high class hookers, a trickle of change might actually be given to the people in need.
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All is a bold claim.

Just give your money to USO.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 12:35:30 PM EST
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Link Posted: 1/17/2015 12:39:52 PM EST
Fuck WWP.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 12:42:01 PM EST
I no longer give anything to WWP. Fisher House now receives my support.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 12:42:45 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/17/2015 12:44:42 PM EST by FortyFiveAutomatic]
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Originally Posted By AKengineer:
Inefficient, antigun, and morally bankrupt. Fuckem.
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we've known about this for years, and frankly, it was all i needed to know. fuck them.

the cheerleader up there will probably have his fingers in his ears singing "la la la la" wrt that point.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 12:44:41 PM EST
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Doesn't veteranstoday.com post a lot of crackpot stuff?

ETA:
Yup. A whole bunch of Troofer nonsense and "the jews did it!"
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 12:46:46 PM EST
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Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:
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This.
Same goes for 'feed the children', 'help the homeless' and 'save the animals' organizations. Business's being financed by gullible sympathy of the uninformed.


Link Posted: 1/17/2015 12:47:53 PM EST
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Originally Posted By netstorm:
Here's charity navigator info.

http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=12842
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Not too sure about this, they give the SPLC the same score.

http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=4482#.VLqf9EfF98E
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 12:51:58 PM EST
There was a thread here a couple months ago where a member said after he was injured they showed up to the hospital, handed out shirts/hats, took a bunch of pictures, then left. I also posted my story about the WWP in that thread (im on my phone and arent going to type all that out). Im sure someone on a desktop can find it.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 12:53:25 PM EST
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 12:56:49 PM EST
I stopped donating to them a couple of years ago. Much better programs out there.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 1:01:43 PM EST
It's not true and OPs title is vicious slander.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 1:07:38 PM EST
ALL large non-proffit charities are like that.

Unless you are significantly underwriten by a supporting company (that pays the operational payroll) part of the donation will have to goto payroll and campaign/advertising costs.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 1:12:46 PM EST
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Originally Posted By AZBADBOY:
As mentioned, all charities and non-profits are nothing more than a scam. You are paying for private jets and high class hookers, a trickle of change might actually be given to the people in need.
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If they are lucky.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 1:14:09 PM EST
As I said before, it started out with good intentions - but now it's strictly a Marketing company that happens to donate money to help wounded vets.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 1:15:04 PM EST
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Originally Posted By EvanWilliams:

Not this one
Special Operations Warrior Foundation
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Originally Posted By EvanWilliams:
Originally Posted By AZBADBOY:
As mentioned, all charities and non-profits are nothing more than a scam. You are paying for private jets and high class hookers, a trickle of change might actually be given to the people in need.

Not this one
Special Operations Warrior Foundation


It would be nice if someone gave a shit about the regular infantry.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 1:15:48 PM EST
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Originally Posted By LowBeta:
It's not true and OPs title is vicious slander.
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Not much on the question mark, are you?
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 1:16:46 PM EST
Inefficient, antigun, and morally bankrupt. Fuckem.
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Yes I'd call it a scam. There are many fine veterans charities that do far more then line their pockets like this bunch. 5 mins of searching will land you with a good one.

I like to sell old computer,shooting gear, and of course clothing, to give to these charities. When Im retired I hope to do a lot of volunteer work.

Get the word out about this bunch.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 1:16:47 PM EST
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Originally Posted By moshaholic2:
ALL large non-proffit charities are like that.

Unless you are significantly underwriten by a supporting company (that pays the operational payroll) part of the donation will have to goto payroll and campaign/advertising costs.
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How do you feel about the Salvation Army?
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 1:16:57 PM EST
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Originally Posted By magilla:
unfortunately most of the funds they collect go to them for running their charity. Funny how they want everyone to donate EXCEPT them. As a vet i am offended by their business model. they appear to be making a living off of our backs.
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When we meet, beers are on me.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 1:17:45 PM EST
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Originally Posted By jefflebowski:


It would be nice if someone gave a shit about the regular infantry.
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Originally Posted By jefflebowski:
Originally Posted By EvanWilliams:
Originally Posted By AZBADBOY:
As mentioned, all charities and non-profits are nothing more than a scam. You are paying for private jets and high class hookers, a trickle of change might actually be given to the people in need.

Not this one
Special Operations Warrior Foundation


It would be nice if someone gave a shit about the regular infantry.

My father was regular infantry. So was my uncle.
My friend on active duty is in Naval Special Warfare and has a kid.
So,,I donate to SOWF
However, I'll think about donating to the USO more like my dad did
I think he would like that

Thank you for reminding me.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 1:18:01 PM EST
Whomever designed the logo gets an "A+". Whomever runs the marketing department needs an "A+". People buy WWP gear to look cool. Those two dudes got the job done.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 1:22:20 PM EST
Here's what turned me against them.

You run a hunting lodge. Lie a really high dollar, al; inclusive hunting lodge for insanely rich people.

You want to bring wounded vets to your lodge to hunt for free.

You contact WWP, they say " are you willing to make a cash donation?" You say no, I want to show some vets a good time

WWP project says " unless you are willing to make a cash donation, no thanks"



this story has happened repeatedly. THey don't give two shit about wounded vets, they only want your money. ANd they only help vets who have "sexy" injuries that they can put on TV to coerce people into giving more money. Fuck WWP.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 1:22:36 PM EST
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Originally Posted By EvanWilliams:

My father was regular infantry. So was my uncle.
My friend on active duty is in Naval Special Warfare and has a kid.
So,,I donate to SOWF
However, I'll think about donating to the USO more like my dad did
I think he would like that

Thank you for reminding me.
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Originally Posted By EvanWilliams:
Originally Posted By jefflebowski:
Originally Posted By EvanWilliams:
Originally Posted By AZBADBOY:
As mentioned, all charities and non-profits are nothing more than a scam. You are paying for private jets and high class hookers, a trickle of change might actually be given to the people in need.

Not this one
Special Operations Warrior Foundation


It would be nice if someone gave a shit about the regular infantry.

My father was regular infantry. So was my uncle.
My friend on active duty is in Naval Special Warfare and has a kid.
So,,I donate to SOWF
However, I'll think about donating to the USO more like my dad did
I think he would like that

Thank you for reminding me.


My very good friend (who sends me free stuff and "loaner" stuff) way too often is active NSW with a kid. However, I see way too many people who forget about the grunts.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 1:23:20 PM EST
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 1:25:12 PM EST
Any charity that gets that big will be a scam
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 1:25:22 PM EST
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Originally Posted By magilla:
unfortunately most of the funds they collect go to them for running their charity. Funny how they want everyone to donate EXCEPT them. As a vet i am offended by their business model. they appear to be making a living off of our backs.
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WWP's administrative expenses are less than the other charities listed in this thread.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 1:25:53 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Aimless:
0bama is canceling that, we'll just have drones and SEALs
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Originally Posted By Aimless:
Originally Posted By jefflebowski:
Originally Posted By EvanWilliams:
Originally Posted By AZBADBOY:
As mentioned, all charities and non-profits are nothing more than a scam. You are paying for private jets and high class hookers, a trickle of change might actually be given to the people in need.

Not this one
Special Operations Warrior Foundation


It would be nice if someone gave a shit about the regular infantry.
0bama is canceling that, we'll just have drones and SEALs


Were fucked. SEALs fuck up more than anybody and the drones are useless most of the time. (Unless you consider giving all the superfluous LTCs in the TOC a chance to feel like they are "in the fight" value.)
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 1:26:10 PM EST
I have friends in and donate money to my local VFW.
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