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Posted: 4/26/2001 8:13:33 AM EDT

Is this a joke or what????

Last nights news had a story about a website [url]www.gunsforkids.com[/url]

Basically a website that promises to sell kids guns online "no questions asked".
The site is still up and running because the authorities don't know what to do with it. They don't believe weapons are really being sold. Might be a credit card scam? In fact when trying to make a purchase of a gas mask the local news crew were asked for their parents name and credit card numbers but never asked for a shipping address. Then they were promised thier loot was on the way.
It would have been funny except now many people probably believe kids can really buy guns online so maybe we need more laws, right?

Here are some of the guns they were selling with a little information about those weapons:

Beretta 9mm 92FS - $550.00
Mom's boyfriend hassling you again? Take care of it with your 9. Also carried by the US Army and homeys nationwide.

IMI Uzi 9mm - $1599.99
Amaze your friends with a real Uzi made in Israel complete with folding stock and a shitload of 25 round magazines stamped with the Star of David - the same weapon the Jews use to fight off those crazy A-rabs.

Bushmaster AR-15 .223 - $1075.00
An AR-15 is what you need on a rainy day. With a flash suppressor and plenty of 30 round magazines, you can pick off a lot of those assholes who you have to go to school with.

.50 cal Desert Eagle - $1000.00
Why spend another afternoon in detention when you've got a Desert Eagle down your pants. Semi-auto, 7 in the clip, 1 up the pipe. Outstanding results on police cars and DMV workers. Kosher. Made in Israel.

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Posted: 4/26/2001 8:17:14 AM EDT

[#1]

good deal on the Ar

Posted: 4/26/2001 9:05:07 AM EDT

[#2]

hehe,
I like that one.
This pic is a keeper. Cause this is how my kid is going to be with Dad at the rifle range!!
c-rock
[url]www.illinois-shooter.org[/url]
[img]http://www.gunsforkids.com/images/kid2.jpg[/img]

Posted: 4/26/2001 9:25:50 AM EDT

[#3]

Read the comments from people who supposedly visit the site. Notice the only progun person either refered to themslelves as a skinhead, or (more likely) the site administrator changed their occupation.

This site is sick, and I hope it is a credit card scam so the bastards that put it up can go away for a long time (without the possibility of some youngsters get guns).

Kyle

Posted: 4/26/2001 9:31:34 AM EDT

[#4]

The m-style grenade launcher is actually a paint launcher ment to be mounted on a tipman paintball gun. SCAM!

Posted: 4/26/2001 9:34:41 AM EDT

[#5]

Here's the whois info on who registered the site:

Registrant:
MissoulaWeb
2401 Brooks St #130
Missoula, MT 59801
US

Registrar: Dotster (http://www.dotster.com)
Domain Name: GUNSFORKIDS.COM
Created on: 20-MAY-00
Expires on: 20-MAY-02
Last Updated on: 25-APR-01

Administrative Contact:
Goldstein, Emmanuel [email protected]
2401 Brooks St #130
Missoula, MT 59801
US
406-542-8696

Technical Contact:
Goldstein, Emmanuel [email protected]
2401 Brooks St #130
Missoula, MT 59801
US
406-542-8696

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.MISSOULAWEB.COM
NS2.MISSOULAWEB.COM

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Missoulaweb.com is a hosting service, but it looks like they registered it for their own use. Probably a bunch of sick anti's. Its amazing to me what people will do to mock gun-lovers and 2nd amendment supporters. Here's hoping Emmanuel Goldstein goes straight to hell.
Even if this is a joke.. it's a pretty sick one.

(by the way, if you go to the shopping cart, you can enter a name and credit card number, but no expiration date. so it has to be bogus)

-Gloftoe
(edited because I still can't spell)
(twice)

Posted: 4/26/2001 9:34:55 AM EDT

[#6]

Here is the information of the person who registered the domain name.

Registrant:
MissoulaWeb
2401 Brooks St #130
Missoula, MT 59801
US

Registrar: Dotster (http://www.dotster.com)
Domain Name: gunsforkids.com
Created on: 20-MAY-00
Expires on: 20-MAY-02
Last Updated on: 25-APR-01

Administrative Contact:
Goldstein, Emmanuel [email protected]
2401 Brooks St #130
Missoula, MT 59801
US
406-542-8696

Technical Contact:
Goldstein, Emmanuel [email protected]
2401 Brooks St #130
Missoula, MT 59801
US
406-542-8696

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.MISSOULAWEB.COM
NS2.MISSOULAWEB.COM

Posted: 4/26/2001 9:37:06 AM EDT

[#7]

Is that an e-mail address I see? Mwwwhahahahahaha!

Posted: 4/26/2001 9:41:01 AM EDT

[#8]

hooooo Lordy... Check out the website of one of the email addresses listed in the whois info:

[url]http://www.superprivate.com[/url]

Heh. the guy seems a bit... how should I say... "odd"

-Gloftoe

Posted: 4/26/2001 9:43:24 AM EDT

[#9]

Thanks for all the site ifo. I hope these people take it in the a$$ for what they are trying to do.

The hysteria factor with a site like this is real high, and obviously whoever created it is one of those Nazis who feel lies and misinformation will bolster their "cause".

This is the kind of situation that I believe should be taken very seriously by supporters of the 2nd.

Posted: 4/26/2001 9:58:59 AM EDT

[#10]

What city are you in and what station did a story on the site?

Posted: 4/26/2001 10:01:03 AM EDT

[#11]

What city are you in and what station did a story on the site?

Posted: 4/26/2001 10:09:09 AM EDT

[#12]

Ok here is what I found. gunsforkids.com is hosted at MISSOULAWEB.COM.

I found an email from someone at gunsforkids.com published on rashmagazine.com by someone called Operator. Operators email address is [email protected]. The email address referenced in the article was [email protected].

Oddly enough rashmagazine.com is also hosted at missoulaweb.com, even though it's owners are in New York.

The Administrative Contact for gunsforkids.com is Goldstein, Emmanuel who just happens to have the email address of [email protected]

Here's a link to the email received from gunsforkids.com. In it they actually admit that if the credit card number is real they were going to order 600 pizzas and have them delivered to a high school.

http://www.rashmagazine.com/archives/operator/guns.html

Posted: 4/26/2001 10:23:51 AM EDT

[#13]

Missoula.. that doesn't suprise me, it's well known to be a hot bed of whacko tree hugging liberals.

Posted: 4/26/2001 10:42:58 AM EDT

[#14]

Why don't someone just report it to the Feds and say they are selling arms to underage kids illegally so they can get their ass investigated and the site shutdown.

[;)]

Posted: 4/26/2001 10:44:37 AM EDT

[#15]

heres the Who is data from whois.com WHOIS information for gunsforkids.com:

Registrar: DOTSTER, INC.

Organization: MissoulaWeb
address: 2401 Brooks St #130
Missoula, MT 59801 US

Admin contact: Goldstein, Emmanuel
email: [email protected]
phone: 406 5428696
fax:

Tech contact: Goldstein, Emmanuel
email: [email protected]
phone: 406 5428696
fax:

Nameservers: ns2.missoulaweb.com
ns1.missoulaweb.com

personly i think its a joke

Posted: 4/26/2001 11:09:13 AM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:
heres the Who is data from whois.com WHOIS information for gunsforkids.com:

Registrar: DOTSTER, INC.

Organization: MissoulaWeb
address: 2401 Brooks St #130
Missoula, MT 59801 US

Admin contact: Goldstein, Emmanuel
email: [email protected]
phone: 406 5428696
fax:

Tech contact: Goldstein, Emmanuel
email: [email protected]
phone: 406 5428696
fax:

Nameservers: ns2.missoulaweb.com
ns1.missoulaweb.com

personly i think its a joke

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I went to www.whois.com and I can't access the place where this information can be found. How did you do it?

Posted: 4/26/2001 11:20:43 AM EDT

[#17]

I called the contact number (406-542-8696) and got an answering machine.

The recording says that it is the office of Montana NORML and Montana for medical rights.

I did an internet search on both of these and guess who hosts these web sites?
Same address, same phone number.

Montana NORML:
Registrant:
Montana Norml (MONTANANORML2-DOM)
2401 Brooks, Suite 130
Missoula, MT 59801
US

Domain Name: MONTANANORML.ORG
Administrative Contact, Billing Contact:
Masterson, John (JM34749) [email protected]
Montana NORML
2401 Brooks #130
Missoula , MT 59801
406-542-8696 (FAX) 406-541-4953

Technical Contact:
Hostmaster (HO8150-ORG) [email protected]
MissoulaWeb, LC
2401 Brooks #130
Missoula , MT 59801
US
406-728-6654
Fax- 425-699-9964

Record last updated on 26-Sep-2000.
Record expires on 14-Oct-2001.
Record created on 14-Oct-1998.
Database last updated on 26-Apr-2001 05:15:00 EDT.

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.MISSOULAWEB.COM 208.146.72.25
NS2.MISSOULAWEB.COM 207.243.19.20

Posted: 4/26/2001 11:26:15 AM EDT

[#18]

This site stinks of the anti-gunners' foul political tactics. [:(!]

Posted: 4/26/2001 11:45:48 AM EDT

[#19]

oops sorry its whois.net under search for a domain name

Posted: 4/26/2001 11:52:31 AM EDT

[#20]

The antis have reached a new low with this s**t. And THEY worry about US? Some joke, bastards! [:(!]

Posted: 4/26/2001 3:10:04 PM EDT

[#21]

When I said "It's OK by me", I meant that it was OK for c-rock to post the picture on this forum. When I looked at the gundforkids.com from work it was with images turned off so I did not realize they were using my graphic.

Seems to me that someone is quite stupid. For example, their link to NBC goes to a reporter's personal page who has nothing to do with them. She was annoyed!

I am annoyed, too. I left a message on their answering machine. They may well be pro-RKBA but they are certainly stupid about it. If i don't hear from them, I'll talk to their ISP.

In the meantime, if anyone wants to contact them and rip 'em a new one, be my guest.

Oleg

Posted: 4/26/2001 3:49:29 PM EDT

[#22]

people like this make me want to throw up. lets pull a u2 on them only this time its no holds barred.

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