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Posted: 1/23/2011 3:02:56 PM EDT
A gunman walked into a Detroit police precinct this afternoon and shot a commander and three other officers before he was killed, police sources confirmed.


http://www.detnews.com/article/20110123/METRO/101230331/Four-Detroit-police-officers-shot-inside-precinct
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 3:04:43 PM EDT
Well that's just fucking great
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 3:06:19 PM EDT
Palin and right-wing talk radio's fault.
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 3:07:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/23/2011 3:08:12 PM EDT by kelone]
Four cops shot in Detroit precinct, gunman killed
According to Sgt. Todd Eby, the gunman walked in at about 4:20 p.m. with a pistol grip shotgun

New item for the ban list?
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 3:11:29 PM EDT
It is detroit. What do you expect?
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 3:11:39 PM EDT
Great.
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 3:12:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By kelone:
Four cops shot in Detroit precinct, gunman killed
According to Sgt. Todd Eby, the gunman walked in at about 4:20 p.m. with a pistol grip shotgun

New item for the ban list?

Probably, it won't matter that, with a simple hacksaw, a harmless fudd shotgun can be converted in minutes to a pistol-gripped shotgun.

It's sad, but my first thought when seeing this thread title was: "I hope it's not 'high-capacity' magazines."
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 3:13:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/23/2011 3:14:12 PM EDT by postban]
http://www.detnews.com/article/20110123/METRO/101230331/Four-Detroit-police-officers-shot-inside-precinct


The wild west is 10 miles from my front porch....

...Sunday's shooting capped off a bloody weekend that saw at least 10 people shot since Friday night - four at the precinct, three outside a strip club, and three murder victims found ina housein the 14000 block ofFaircrest.
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 3:13:33 PM EDT
Fuck... Why can't people just off themselves
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 3:14:17 PM EDT
Originally Posted By maleante:
A gunman walked into a Detroit police precinct this afternoon and shot a commander and three other officers before he was killed, police sources confirmed.


http://www.detnews.com/article/20110123/METRO/101230331/Four-Detroit-police-officers-shot-inside-precinct


Let's see. Gunman walks into a place where people are armed. His shooting spree is cut short by return fire.

But, had this been anywhere else, we'd be informed that we have to disarm to victimize ourselves to keep this from happening. Yet, this is proof positive that being armed will stop these idiots in their tracks.

I suggest that what is good for the goose is good for the gander. Disarm the police so they won't be the victims of these horrible shooting sprees.

Link Posted: 1/23/2011 3:14:21 PM EDT
unpossible. I thought these were posted all over detroit:

Link Posted: 1/23/2011 3:14:42 PM EDT
Detroit is one IED blast away from being Mexico.
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 3:14:47 PM EDT
Originally Posted By EasTexan:
Fuck... Why can't people just off themselves


No shit.

Link Posted: 1/23/2011 3:14:51 PM EDT
Originally Posted By kelone:
Four cops shot in Detroit precinct, gunman killed
According to Sgt. Todd Eby, the gunman walked in at about 4:20 p.m. with a pistol grip shotgun

New item for the ban list?


I bet some news reporter will say the phrase "Assault shotgun" before this is over.

Link Posted: 1/23/2011 3:14:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/23/2011 3:15:10 PM EDT by Black-Tiger]
Originally Posted By EasTexan:
Fuck... Why can't people just off themselves


Suicide by cop; great!

Prayers outbound for the four brothers; hope they recover.
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 3:15:03 PM EDT
Originally Posted By EasTexan:
Fuck... Why can't people just off themselves


Good question.
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 3:15:45 PM EDT
Pistol grip shotgun ban.

Nobody needs one. Cop killer!

Could be fitted with high capacity clips or God forbid magazines!!!
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 3:16:10 PM EDT
Detroit is about as bad as you can get in the United States of America.

It's a war zone.
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 3:16:14 PM EDT
"Sunday's shooting capped off a bloody weekend that saw at least 10 people shot since Friday night — four at the precinct, three outside a strip club, and three murder victims found in a house in the 14000 block of Faircrest."
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 3:17:37 PM EDT
Originally Posted By kelone:
Four cops shot in Detroit precinct, gunman killed
According to Sgt. Todd Eby, the gunman walked in at about 4:20 p.m. with a pistol grip shotgun

New item for the ban list?


maybe thats what the BATFE will be announcing on monday.
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 3:18:29 PM EDT
At this point the best possible outcome would be that the shooter used a Saiga 12 since the ATFE is stopping their importation anyway.
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 3:19:00 PM EDT
Originally Posted By SilentType:
Detroit is about as bad as you can get in the United States of America.

It's a war zone.



isn't D.C. just as bad? Shitcago? Baltimore?

Link Posted: 1/23/2011 3:20:48 PM EDT
Originally Posted By EasTexan:
Fuck... Why can't people just off themselves


Link Posted: 1/23/2011 3:23:08 PM EDT
Originally Posted By SouthEndXGF:
unpossible. I thought these were posted all over detroit:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_8UBxF2HX9R8/SDFWrV-0RXI/AAAAAAAAAHU/vIkHGT9mh_g/s400/no%2Bgun1.JPG


So in Detroit its illegal to carry a GyroJet?
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 3:23:11 PM EDT
Sort of puts the utility of a PGS in perspective that he managed to only wound four officers while succeeding to get himself killed. Just heard that one of the officers is in critical condition.

DAMN!! It is a world gone mad!
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 3:25:10 PM EDT
It's got to suck being a cop in Detriot.
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 3:25:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/23/2011 3:26:22 PM EDT by omega62]
Originally Posted By ED_P:
Originally Posted By kelone:
Four cops shot in Detroit precinct, gunman killed
According to Sgt. Todd Eby, the gunman walked in at about 4:20 p.m. with a pistol grip shotgun

New item for the ban list?


I bet some news reporter will say the phrase "Assault shotgun" before this is over.



About 15 years ago there was a high profile shooting in the news in which the assailant used a Walther PPK .380 pistol.

On the CBS Evening News, Dan Rather referred to it as "an Attack Pistol."

I'm not kidding.

This was after the AWB had been passed, and I think CBS was hoping for a ban on "attack pistols" next.

Link Posted: 1/23/2011 3:25:30 PM EDT
Originally Posted By wganz:
Sort of puts the utility of a PGS in perspective that he managed to only wound four officers while succeeding to get himself killed. Just heard that one of the officers is in critical condition.

DAMN!! It is a world gone mad!



Curtail anti-depressant use severely, shooters in these type of incidents usually have a long history with them.

Link Posted: 1/23/2011 3:27:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Mattl:
Originally Posted By SilentType:
Detroit is about as bad as you can get in the United States of America.

It's a war zone.



isn't D.C. just as bad? Shitcago? Baltimore?




didn't you hear?

DC murder rate is decreasing.

don't look at PG county's numbers though.


Link Posted: 1/23/2011 3:27:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/23/2011 3:28:46 PM EDT by omega62]
Originally Posted By Mattl:
Originally Posted By wganz:
Sort of puts the utility of a PGS in perspective that he managed to only wound four officers while succeeding to get himself killed. Just heard that one of the officers is in critical condition.

DAMN!! It is a world gone mad!



Curtail anti-depressant use severely, shooters in these type of incidents usually have a long history with them.



Both of the Columbine shooters had been prescribed heavy doses of SSRIs.

SSRI drugs factor into several other cases like this too.

It is well known that these drugs can cause psychotic episodes in a small (but significant) percentage of users.

Link Posted: 1/23/2011 4:14:48 PM EDT
bump since the other thread got locked.
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 4:19:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/23/2011 4:29:23 PM EDT by ElectricSheep556]
You'd think a Police Station in Detroit would have better security, like hescos and concertina wire. I pray for a speedy recovery for the victims.
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 4:22:53 PM EDT
Coincidentally, I watching Robocop as we speak.

Lets get some ED 209's rolling into Detroit! Delta City would be awesome.
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 4:24:47 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Hard_Rock:
I suggest that what is good for the goose is good for the gander. Disarm the police so they won't be the victims of these horrible shooting sprees.



.....Huh?


Link Posted: 1/23/2011 4:27:46 PM EDT
And another shooting at a Washington Wal Mart, 2 SO deputies injured. Port Orchard area.
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 4:28:04 PM EDT
How the fuck? Cleveland Police Dept is like a fortress. How do you just walk in, and shoot a Commander?

Put this with the cops shot in Cleveland, Boston, and Miami last week, and the Giffords incident....
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 4:31:06 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Hard_Rock:
Originally Posted By maleante:
A gunman walked into a Detroit police precinct this afternoon and shot a commander and three other officers before he was killed, police sources confirmed.


http://www.detnews.com/article/20110123/METRO/101230331/Four-Detroit-police-officers-shot-inside-precinct


Let's see. Gunman walks into a place where people are armed. His shooting spree is cut short by return fire.

But, had this been anywhere else, we'd be informed that we have to disarm to victimize ourselves to keep this from happening. Yet, this is proof positive that being armed will stop these idiots in their tracks.

I suggest that what is good for the goose is good for the gander. Disarm the police so they won't be the victims of these horrible shooting sprees.



That's just what I was going to say.

Link Posted: 1/23/2011 4:36:01 PM EDT
Prayers for the murdered officers and their family's......
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 4:38:16 PM EDT
This sucks. Expect copycats. This is not going to help police citizen interaction.

RIP cops trying to serve and protect
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 4:38:31 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Venkman:
Detroit is one IED blast away from being Mexico.

Don't give anyone ideas.
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 4:39:53 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Taboot:
It's got to suck being a cop in Detriot.


Link Posted: 1/23/2011 4:40:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By KG5S:
Prayers for the murdered officers and their family's......

I don't think any of them died.

Glad they put him down.
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 4:41:27 PM EDT
Originally Posted By SouthEndXGF:
unpossible. I thought these were posted all over detroit:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_8UBxF2HX9R8/SDFWrV-0RXI/AAAAAAAAAHU/vIkHGT9mh_g/s400/no%2Bgun1.JPG


My first thought
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 4:49:38 PM EDT
its a liberal utopia, how can this happen
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 5:25:41 PM EDT
This sucks. I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often, though. For all the "Detroit is a war zone" stuff, there are relatively few cop casualties. The violence is seemingly largely criminal-on-criminal, or at least criminal-on-innocent.

Originally Posted By ED_P:
Originally Posted By kelone:
Four cops shot in Detroit precinct, gunman killed
According to Sgt. Todd Eby, the gunman walked in at about 4:20 p.m. with a pistol grip shotgun

New item for the ban list?


I bet some news reporter will say the phrase "Assault shotgun" before this is over.



So, will it end up being a cut-down-and-not-registered old Model 12 or something, or a new Mossberg "JIC"? Anything under 30" OAL in MI is a pistol and needs to be registered, but a lot of JICs are purchased anyway. Of course, it's easy to put a $5 pistol grip on a 18" shotgun.
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 7:13:09 PM EDT
Lucky there were armed people in the police station,otherwise there would have been a lot more dead people.
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 7:30:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/23/2011 7:48:48 PM EDT by TheGrayMan]
Originally Posted By Mattl:
Originally Posted By wganz:
Sort of puts the utility of a PGS in perspective that he managed to only wound four officers while succeeding to get himself killed. Just heard that one of the officers is in critical condition.

DAMN!! It is a world gone mad!



Curtail anti-depressant use severely, shooters in these type of incidents usually have a long history with them.



Ummm.... no. People are on anti-depressants because they already have a mood disorder of some type.

And if you want us to go back to the tricyclics, my answer is a hearty "F*ck you." An overdose of an SSRI is one of the more benign overdoses you can have... you can practically fill up your stomach all the way to the top of your esophagus with Zoloft pills and be fine. Try that with tricyclics, and you're as dead as last week's roses.

It always struck me, back when prescribing in the tricyclic era, that you'd have a depressed/suicidal patient in your office, and send them to the pharmacy to get a bottle full of medicine that could easily kill them if they took the whole thing. Seemed kind of perverse to me.

ETA: sorry for the threadjack. Hope the officers recover.
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 7:35:22 PM EDT
Hope my cousin is ok, he works on the Detroit PD for experience. He said he could write a book that boggle one's mind. Like having to keep shotguns in the trunk and unloaded.
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 7:40:34 PM EDT
tag for details of shooter.

has the lamestream media tried calling this guy a tea party supporter yet ?

$100 bucks says he had previous run ins with the law, is a democrat and on medications.
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 7:45:10 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Venkman:
Detroit is one IED blast away from being Mexico.


and thus should be fenced the fuck off so the fuckstains can all just slaughter each other! we also need to take this same approach with a few other cities, DC, Baltimore, Oakland, LA, Charlotte, and a few others.
Link Posted: 1/23/2011 7:47:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/23/2011 7:49:56 PM EDT by Doughboy79]
Want to hear something really messed up, I live about 20minutes from downtown Detroit. I was at work all day with the game on and just got home, I never heard a news broadcast about this.
Just now is the first time I have heard anything about this. You'd think it would make the news, Guess its normal


EDIT: And I hear about it from a person in Brasil
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