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Posted: 10/23/2004 2:14:24 PM EDT
[#1]
Time to find another shop, or ask it it's safe before entering.
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Posted: 10/23/2004 2:14:29 PM EDT
[#2]
There is a patched hole in the office at my work where the previous owner's friend picked up a 1911 off the desk and proceeded to FF it. He shot a round thru the wall and it lodged in the far wall of the showroom. Luckily no one was in the path.
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Posted: 10/23/2004 2:14:57 PM EDT
[#3]
I wouldn't return to that store if I were you.
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Posted: 10/23/2004 2:16:48 PM EDT
[#4]
I probably won't. Their prices were kind of high. They wanted $25 a piece for some generic AR15 30rd mags.
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Posted: 10/23/2004 2:18:03 PM EDT
[#5]
It's always the unloaded ones that "go off".
Finger off the damned trigger!! Hey, someone was going to say it. |
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Posted: 10/23/2004 2:18:11 PM EDT
[#6]
I doubt it happens all the time. That guy should probably be removed from handling guns (fired); just too careless.
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Posted: 10/23/2004 2:19:19 PM EDT
[#7]
A black powder Kimber .45. Gotta get me one of those. 
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Posted: 10/23/2004 2:19:49 PM EDT
[#8]
IT DID NOT GO OFF! HE PULLED THE TRIGGER WHEN THERE WAS A LIVE ROUND IN THE CHAMBER! |
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Posted: 10/23/2004 2:20:22 PM EDT
[#9]
You beat me to it. |
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Posted: 10/23/2004 2:22:01 PM EDT
[#10]
Riiiiight. |
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Posted: 10/23/2004 2:22:55 PM EDT
[#11]
He had powder burn on his hand. It looked black. After I read my post I knew someone was going to say that.
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Posted: 10/23/2004 2:23:17 PM EDT
[#12]
I wouldn't hesitate to go back - low-crawling from the front door to the counter. |
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Posted: 10/23/2004 2:23:29 PM EDT
[#13]
Can I get an AMEN? |
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Posted: 10/23/2004 2:24:05 PM EDT
[#14]
Yeah I know, I didn't mean it went off by it self. |
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Posted: 10/23/2004 2:25:23 PM EDT
[#15]
i've yet to walk into a bar that DIDN'T have a bullet hole (or 12) in it...but, a gun store????
i'll bet the guy that pulled the trigger is more careful in the future. always double-check that chamber! |
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Posted: 10/23/2004 2:26:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/23/2004 2:27:12 PM EDT
[#17]
Not sure that's such a good idea, either. I mean he blasted a hole in the counter, was the weapon pointed down? |
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Posted: 10/23/2004 2:27:24 PM EDT
[#18]
So, is the counterman's new nickname "Pants," or "Hot Load?" 
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Posted: 10/23/2004 2:30:21 PM EDT
[#19]
The loudest sound you will ever hear is the bang, when it should have gone click.
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Posted: 10/23/2004 2:31:03 PM EDT
[#20]
+1 WERD! |
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Posted: 10/23/2004 2:31:56 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/23/2004 2:33:23 PM EDT
[#22]
Sign on the wall-Days since last Accidental Discharge- 0
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Posted: 10/23/2004 2:37:07 PM EDT
[#23]
As my dad says more people are shot with unloaded guns than any other kind. "Gee I thought it was unloaded" are the famous last words.
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Posted: 10/23/2004 2:37:55 PM EDT
[#24]
Last year, just before Christmas, a gentleman brings a new, Remington 700, 280 into the sporting goods store where he purchased it. He stopped at the front counter, the clerk checked the gun, opened the bolt and looked into the empty magazine. After finding the gun was unloaded she sent the man back to the gunsmith in the rear of the store.
The customer shows the gun to the gunsmith and tells him that he's having trouble with it extracting. (That should have been his first clue) After looking the bolt over, the gunsmith put the bolt back in the gun and pulled the trigger. BOOM! The cartridge lodged in the camber, went off. Keep in mind, this is just days before Christmas and the store was packed. The bullet went through the wall of the shop, into the showroom, struck a turkey fryer full of peanut oil, went through the fryer and struck the floor. There was peanut oil all over, the store was silent. Every head in the showroom turned to the gunsmith still holding the smoking gun. Thank god, no one was hurt. The gunsmith is a great guy, but all I could think of was: WOW, what a career move for a gunsmith! |
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Posted: 10/23/2004 2:43:02 PM EDT
[#25]
Why was the customers gun loaded in the first place. Most likely he brougt it in to trade or get repaired. Its should have been unloaded.
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Posted: 10/23/2004 2:47:23 PM EDT
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At my now closed indoor range, a customer brought back a rental Timber Wolf, a 22LR tubular magazine fed rifle. The counter-guy takes the rifle from the customer, and racks and pulls the trigger twice, on the 3rd time he rack the slide and pulls the trigger, and the rifle goes BANG! Appearently, a 22LR round was stuck in the tube mag. The first couple times, the round was hung in the magazine, it loosen itself chamber and the gun with BANG! Now there is a hole in one of soda pop vending machine. The hole was in a black area, so they just put some black electrical tape to cover it up.
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Posted: 10/23/2004 2:49:12 PM EDT
[#27]
I don't know. They have a sign on there door that reads "No loaded firearms". The guy was wanting work done on it, he left it there. |
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Posted: 10/23/2004 2:50:37 PM EDT
[#28]
They probably have to have high prices to cover their insurance premiums if stuff like that happens all the time. They need to look into a clearing bbl. |
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Posted: 10/23/2004 2:52:58 PM EDT
[#30]
Gunstores are like any other business, if you people knew even half of what goes on or happens (both customers and sales people's fault) you'd be amazed. I have always heard about motorcycle riders that there are two kinds, those who have had a wreck and those who will. The same thing could be said for gunowners, there are those who have had an AD and those that will. A gunstore employee handles 100 times the number of guns that the average gunowner (or even arfcommer) does. It's bound to happen. Obviously he at least knew the rules and had it pointed in a safe directions.
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Posted: 10/23/2004 2:55:11 PM EDT
[#31]
I've seen this happen 4 times in my life so far, hopefully not again. 1st time was the most horrible. Some sick bastard put a single 9mm round into some pistol at the Coconut Grove Gun Show in 1989. I was working one of the tables when I heard a shot go off. Just about everyone fell silent ... a 9 year old girl died from a gunshot to the head. This is why all gunshows put that plastic zipper around the actions. The other 3 times were in a small gunshop close to where I live ... fortunately, no one got hit. And yes, I was there all 4 times. It's because a lot of people are negligent. And there's no excuse for negligence. And for that little girl, there's a sick SOB out there! |
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Posted: 10/23/2004 2:59:34 PM EDT
[#32]
Fixed it for you. It is not an AD, it's a negligent discharge. The guy behind the counter broke a major rule in firearms handling. Stupid F@ck. |
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Posted: 10/23/2004 3:08:34 PM EDT
[#33]
Yes, probably one of a different political persuasion that thought one victim's death was worth the eventual banning of all guns, step-by bloody step. Just another brick in the wall, it would seem. Think our opponents are angels? Think again. |
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Posted: 10/23/2004 3:19:34 PM EDT
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I've never been near a real AD (ND) but a while back I was worried about one happening when I handed my pistol to a gunshop owner I know well, when I said, "Do you wish for me to clear it first?" when he wanted to take a look at it, when I was buying an IWB holster there a while back. he said "no", as he took it, "it'll be OK." It set my "spidey sense tingling". He pointed it down in the direction of his clearing box (big box full of some sort of sand) to fit it in the holster I was buying, when one of his salesmen, and ex-mil guy, said, "STOP- clear that gun NOW!" to him, and rightfully tore me a strip for handing his boss my loaded gun, even with the safety on, etc. Damn- he was right, and I have carried that lesson with me ever since.
 He said, "Other jobs I can find- another life, I can't." |
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Posted: 10/23/2004 3:57:07 PM EDT
[#35]
+2 The customer should get beat down for bringing in a loaded firearm, and the gunsmith should get beat down for not clearing the fucking thing! Just my opinion.. 
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Posted: 10/23/2004 4:07:38 PM EDT
[#36]
I I've had two ND's. One my stupidty, one a weapon malfunction. |
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Posted: 10/23/2004 4:18:01 PM EDT
[#37]
Yikes, glad nobody was hurt....I think I'd stay away from that place....
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Posted: 10/23/2004 4:19:10 PM EDT
[#38]
Holy negligent discharge, Batman!
Stay clear of that place! |
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Posted: 10/23/2004 4:25:09 PM EDT
[#39]
Well, there was this time I shot myself in the leg just to see what it felt like.
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Posted: 10/23/2004 4:31:51 PM EDT
[#40]
It's not just gunshops and smiths either, some people around here think its funny that the ceiling in the squad room of our local PD has a hole in it, and that one of our finest recieved an extended vacation for blowing out the passenger window of his squad car, (both 12 guage) but the truth is they are people like everyone else and capable of mistakes when they are tired.
Unfortunately it wont get any better unless people wake up and realize how capable that firearm they are holding is of killing someone....The same can be said of any modern viehicle, ect...People need to slow down and think about what they are doing. ~Crpdeth |
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Posted: 10/23/2004 4:39:31 PM EDT
[#41]
Yep +1 |
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Posted: 10/23/2004 4:53:10 PM EDT
[#42]
It wasn't an AD, but a couple of years ago at Dong's Sporting Goods in Tulsa, they had a kB of sorts...
They sell a lot of reloading equipment there and have reloading classes on Saturdays. This means a lot of spilled powder in the carpet and a lot of work for the vacuum cleaner. ANYWAY, the vacuum cleaner apparently became saturated in spite of religiously changing the dust bag and then one evening someone accidentally sucked up a primer... There was a big hole in the ceiling tiles and the lid of the shop vac canister is still supposed to be in a low orbit somewhere circling the earth!
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Posted: 10/23/2004 5:06:21 PM EDT
[#43]
Remind me to never go shooting with you. |
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Posted: 10/23/2004 5:06:57 PM EDT
[#44]
Well, I don't think I'll stay away just because of a AD or whatever you want to call it. I have several friends that at one time or another have accidently fired a round. I haven't done it, but it could happen to anyone. The guy that did it was at least in his mid 50's and says it had never happened to him before. Saying that it will never happen to you is like saying you'll never have an accident in an automobile. I never have done that either, but you never know.
Everybody has a brain lapse now and then, but when you're handling firearms you definetely want to keep the lapses to an absolute minimum. |
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Posted: 10/23/2004 5:20:57 PM EDT
[#45]
Da rules is da rules. Follow em and this type of crap won't happen!
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Posted: 10/23/2004 5:28:59 PM EDT
[#46]
What store was this at? |
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Posted: 10/23/2004 5:32:33 PM EDT
[#47]
Guns etc. in Chandler. I've never been there before. The only real problem I had were their prices and their lack of "evil assult weapons". Too many pistols and not enough "cool stuff".
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Posted: 10/23/2004 5:34:07 PM EDT
[#48]
Or a CLICK when you needed a bang...... SRM |
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Posted: 10/23/2004 5:35:10 PM EDT
[#49]
Nearly did a safety no no tonight, I was handing someone a rifle with no magazine in it, but right before he grabbed it, I suddenly remembered to check the chamber. So I pulled it back, checked the chamber and thankfully nothing was there. Do danger was avoided or anything, but still pissed me off that I nearly forgot to check the fucking chamber.
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Posted: 10/23/2004 5:35:14 PM EDT
[#50]
+1 In fact that's even worse. |
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