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Posted: 3/13/2005 9:31:32 AM EST
We were at the gun show and saw alot of good stuff

one thing that i saw was short AR uppers like 9 or 10" I thought they were illegal unless you had a special permit?

my friend claims they are legal to buy, sell own as long as you dont have a AR nearby plus they can be used for AR pistols so they are perfectly legal?

can somebody clear this up?

i am new to SBR's...
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 9:34:06 AM EST
As long as you don't put it on a rifle lower I believe they are OK to own. I don't know if constructive posession(or whatever it is called) applies as much to short uppers. Just say you found a good deal on it, and are planning on putting it on a pistol lower.
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 9:37:30 AM EST
Parts is parts.
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 9:43:59 AM EST

Originally Posted By serrada:
Parts is parts.



So you could buy a 11.5 inch upper no problem as long as you paid the SBR tax before you assembled it?
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 9:46:50 AM EST
i do not see why anyone shouel be imprisoned 10 years and/or fined $10 for a $5 tax evasion (and it is an unconstitutional tax on a right)
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 9:50:14 AM EST
i think this works the same as having FA parts without a FA reciever. its illegal becasue they can't watch you all the time, and dont know what you'll do with it. besides, why would you own parts that you arent going to use?
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 9:51:14 AM EST
If you the upper no problem

If you have the upper and a lower that it's legal to use on (SBR or pistol) no problem

If you have the upper and only a standard AR lower (Not an SBR or pistol) you have a problem.

You're stuck having to explain why you have parts that you have no way of making a legal configuration with at that very moment.



See US v Thompson Center
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 9:51:17 AM EST

Originally Posted By Aalmeron:
i think this works the same as having FA parts without a FA reciever. its illegal becasue they can't watch you all the time, and dont know what you'll do with it. besides, why would you own parts that you arent going to use?



I have noticed small arms review says short barreled uppers are only for M16's?
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 9:52:13 AM EST
Oh sure, if you had a short upper you wouldn't mount it.


Link Posted: 3/13/2005 9:59:17 AM EST

Originally Posted By Mak762:

Originally Posted By serrada:
Parts is parts.



So you could buy a 11.5 inch upper no problem as long as you paid the SBR tax before you assembled it?



Yes. People do that all the time. They get the parts, apply for the stamp, then wait to receive the paper to mate them. An 11.5" would also be legal with a permanent 5.5" FH. Also, if you didn't install a stock, then it could be a pistol upper and not necessarily a SBR.
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 9:59:50 AM EST

Originally Posted By Oslow:
Oh sure, if you had a short upper you wouldn't mount it.





what a trivial issue, oh no people might attach a short upper!!! the world would just end if that happened
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 10:06:01 AM EST
The SBR tax is $5? I thought it was $200.
Link Posted: 3/13/2005 10:08:41 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/13/2005 10:09:57 AM EST by serrada]

Originally Posted By NevadaARshooter:
The SBR tax is $5? I thought it was $200.



No, AOW transfer is $5, unless you build it yourself then it is $200. SBR is $200.
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