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Posted: 9/3/2004 5:47:41 PM EST
I am looking at a Cannon American Eagle safe, 16-32 size. Anybody have one of these and what can you say about them. The price is $800 - much less than the equal size Browning. Any feedback or comments are appreciated.
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 5:58:58 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 6:02:01 PM EST
Why the digital lock?
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 6:05:29 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 6:10:00 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/3/2004 6:13:21 PM EST by repub18]
I dont trust that digital lock, if someone were to break in they would probably bust the keypad and then your shit out of luck
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 6:18:31 PM EST
Avoid the digital lock. More shit to go wrong. You can't beat a dial S&G. Also, take a look at the
Liberty safes. Really good finish work on them. I bought a Sportsman Steel safe. It has served its
purpose but the finish work on the inside leaves alot to be desired. Also try and find one that has a
removable door. Makes it easier to move. I researched for about a year before I bought one.
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 6:26:54 PM EST
If I had the money Id go for a Fort Knox
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 7:00:08 PM EST

Originally Posted By huggybro:
Avoid the digital lock. More shit to go wrong. You can't beat a dial S&G. Also, take a look at the
Liberty safes. Really good finish work on them. I bought a Sportsman Steel safe. It has served its
purpose but the finish work on the inside leaves alot to be desired. Also try and find one that has a
removable door. Makes it easier to move. I researched for about a year before I bought one.





I've had a Sportsman Steel safe for about two years, with the digital lock with no problem. I was able to talk the salemen down $400.00 over the phone AND he threw in a few extras.
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 7:45:14 PM EST
I've got 2 cannon safes. Both the same size, 60Hx30Wx22D. One dial and one digital. I got the
digital from Vollmer in Plainfield, Ill,just out side of Chicago on 9/11/01 and am still using the same
9 volt battery. I got the Cannon dial from a gunshop in Va. Beach. (A&P Range at Lynnhaven.)
The digital is quicker to get into, but most of the time I only use the key lock on the dial safe. You
throw the bolt, zero and lock the dial and reentry is fast.
The dial would probley be the safest. The Cannon has a very good warrenty. Cannon safes are a
good value for the price and come with shelves and racks.
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 7:53:30 PM EST
IF you want a Safe buy a Ft Knox with the S&G dial

Link Posted: 9/3/2004 9:58:59 PM EST

Originally Posted By repub18:
I dont trust that digital lock, if someone were to break in they would probably bust the keypad and then your shit out of luck



Hate to pop ya bubble,BUT:
bust the keypad and it's permanently locked
Time to call the Locksmith
Link Posted: 9/3/2004 10:15:30 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/4/2004 6:03:19 AM EST

Originally Posted By JosieWales:

Originally Posted By repub18:
I dont trust that digital lock, if someone were to break in they would probably bust the keypad and then your shit out of luck



Hate to pop ya bubble,BUT:
bust the keypad and it's permanently locked
Time to call the Locksmith




I have a lifetime warranty on my keypad, whether I somehow break it or someone damages it trying to break in. I would call a locksmith of my choice, pay the bill and send the bill to the safe company, along with a police report if a crime was committed.
Link Posted: 9/4/2004 6:09:30 AM EST

Originally Posted By JosieWales:

Originally Posted By repub18:
I dont trust that digital lock, if someone were to break in they would probably bust the keypad and then your shit out of luck



Hate to pop ya bubble,BUT:
bust the keypad and it's permanently locked
Time to call the Locksmith




um I knew that, I was refering the fact that now you the owner of the safe cant even get in
Link Posted: 9/4/2004 6:07:39 PM EST

Originally Posted By repub18:

Originally Posted By JosieWales:

Originally Posted By repub18:
I dont trust that digital lock, if someone were to break in they would probably bust the keypad and then your shit out of luck



Hate to pop ya bubble,BUT:
bust the keypad and it's permanently locked
Time to call the Locksmith




um I knew that, I was refering the fact that now you the owner of the safe cant even get in




I personally never have all my eggs in one basket. So if someone were to attempt to break into my safe and damage the lock in the process, I have weapons and ammo in other locations that I could use until the locksmith changed the keypad.
Link Posted: 9/4/2004 6:17:04 PM EST
Big hammer on the manual dial makes it a little tough to get into too.
Link Posted: 9/4/2004 6:40:02 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/4/2004 6:53:32 PM EST
i have a cannon american eagle 36". i paid $1000 delivered from a vender selling on ebay. for the same safe in a diff brand i'd of paid $1500+
Link Posted: 9/5/2004 7:22:55 AM EST

Originally Posted By 97guns:
i have a cannon american eagle 36". i paid $1000 delivered from a vender selling on ebay. for the same safe in a diff brand i'd of paid $1500+



Was it curbside delivery or instillation?
Link Posted: 9/5/2004 7:26:41 AM EST
Is there such a thing as a safe that uses mainly a keypad lock, but has a dial in case the keypad dies?
Link Posted: 9/5/2004 8:39:55 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/5/2004 8:43:34 AM EST by wildearp]
Get the keypad. Believe it or not, I had a S&G dial lock foul up. It became nearly impossible to open, like there were marbles in the works. (browning safe). We changed it to digital S&G. My friend, my bro, and myself all have digital. One better is a double door with two digitals. Failsafe. Dial locks blow if you get into your safe several times a day. My batteries lasted two years, and they have a low battery warning.

http://www.brownsafe.com/7256.html

These are safes, not gun cabinets. If your "safe" says RSC on it, it is rated as a "residential storage container" by the Underwriters Laboratories. It is, by no means, a safe. Many unwashed can get into a RSC with a sledge hammer in less than 5 minutes. I discussed this with an appraiser who deals with gun thefts and insurance companies. He has seen several RSC's defeated and explained some of the process to me. Very enlightening.

Look carefully at the Canon's construction. Some of them suck. If it is a hidden hinge with only two points of contact, one at the top, one at the bottom, this is the easiest of all to defeat. Simple mechanics. I am aware of the design features, because I play an engineer on TV, and I was going to build my own safe. Dollar for pound, you can't beat the Brown.
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