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Posted: 9/26/2005 10:45:38 AM EDT
I am aware of an attempt in Washington to get a gun control law passed as part of a general election referendum. What I can't find are gun control laws that were voted into place by a general ballot. Have the existing gun control laws really come into play strictly through the acts of our elected officials? And if this is true can't a challenge be made on the grounds these laws are actually attempts to amend the constitution without resorting to an actual amendment?
Link Posted: 9/26/2005 5:06:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By XD_Fan:
I am aware of an attempt in Washington to get a gun control law passed as part of a general election referendum. What I can't find are gun control laws that were voted into place by a general ballot.
Nor will you, aside from the denial of a CCL law in MO a few years back.

Have the existing gun control laws really come into play strictly through the acts of our elected officials?
Yes.

And if this is true can't a challenge be made on the grounds these laws are actually attempts to amend the constitution without resorting to an actual amendment?
No, as they're limited to the jurisdiction of the state. You could make this case for the 1986 & 1989 Ban though, IMO. I believe they all could be held un-Constitutional though, IMO. Violation of the 2nd Amendment & all that?


Link Posted: 9/26/2005 5:17:40 PM EDT
I believe a "gunshow loophole" law was passed by public referendum in Denver CO shortly after the Columbine crap (emotions were high), but it was overridden by pre-emption laws (a community can't pass or enact a law that is more restrictive than state law).
Link Posted: 9/27/2005 8:15:33 AM EDT

Originally Posted By BobCole:

Originally Posted By XD_Fan:
I am aware of an attempt in Washington to get a gun control law passed as part of a general election referendum. What I can't find are gun control laws that were voted into place by a general ballot.
Nor will you, aside from the denial of a CCL law in MO a few years back.

Have the existing gun control laws really come into play strictly through the acts of our elected officials?
Yes.

And if this is true can't a challenge be made on the grounds these laws are actually attempts to amend the constitution without resorting to an actual amendment?
No, as they're limited to the jurisdiction of the state. You could make this case for the 1986 & 1989 Ban though, IMO. I believe they all could be held un-Constitutional though, IMO. Violation of the 2nd Amendment & all that?

This is true at the state level. What about the 34, 68 and 86 federal GCAs? The majority of the state actions stem from these.





My point is this. The 2nd amendment is clear and plain english. Yet, the elected federal government has time and time again ignored their responsiblity to uphold the constitution. Yet, I see no challenge on this basis anywhere.
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