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Posted: 10/30/2006 11:23:31 AM EST
Gun-crazy pensioner locked up
Oct 29 2006
Laura Kemp, Wales on Sunday

A PENSIONER who held an illegal arsenal of more than 100 guns at his home has been jailed for five years.

Retired rail worker William Charles Hughes, 66, had earlier admitted two charges of selling illegal firearms and 13 of possessing illegal guns.

Police found 111 weapons while the Army had to dispose of a deactivated grenade at his home in Gwersyllt, Wrexham.

His barrister told Caernarfon Crown Court "the world was a very different place" when Hughes' interest began.

Hughes also had 24 shotguns and 37 rifles at his house.

He also admitted a charge of possessing ammunition.

Police raided Hughes' house in June and found an arsenal of illegal guns, some of which were hidden in a false water tank in the attic.

One of the 37 handguns found was loaded and there was also a deactivated grenade which an army bomb disposal team was called in to make safe.

Hughes also admitted selling two guns, including a semi automatic pistol to another collector.

Prosecutor Ed Beltrami said Hughes told police that he was a member of a gun club but the illegal weapons did not leave his house.

He added: "He left the firearms around the house because he didn't have enough secure cabinets in which to store them."

Simon Medland, defending Hughes, said his client never had any intention of using the guns and the law had changed since he started collecting, particularly after the Dunblane school shootings in 1996. He added: "This is the first time he's been before the courts.

"When Mr Hughes began his interest in firearms the world was a very different place in its approach to guns."

Some of the guns dated back to the 18th and 19th Centuries and a large number of weapons at the property were held legally, the court heard.

But Judge John Rogers said Hughes had been aware of the change in the law on guns and sentenced him to five years in jail.

He told him: "You, I'm sure, now appreciate the gravity of storing at your home so many prohibited firearms and ammunition."


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Link Posted: 10/30/2006 11:27:15 AM EST
Ammo posession is illegal across the pond?
Link Posted: 10/30/2006 11:29:25 AM EST

Originally Posted By XDBACKUPGUN:
Ammo posession is illegal across the pond?


So are knives and anything else that's pointy.
Link Posted: 10/30/2006 11:30:06 AM EST

Originally Posted By Gravity_Tester:

Originally Posted By XDBACKUPGUN:
Ammo posession is illegal across the pond?


So are knives and anything else that's pointy.



I knew about the knives........but but but..........this is crazy.
Link Posted: 10/30/2006 11:31:02 AM EST

Originally Posted By XDBACKUPGUN:

Originally Posted By Gravity_Tester:

Originally Posted By XDBACKUPGUN:
Ammo posession is illegal across the pond?


So are knives and anything else that's pointy.



I knew about the knives........but but but..........this is crazy.


It's all for your own safety.
Link Posted: 10/30/2006 11:32:08 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/30/2006 11:32:41 AM EST
I'll sleep better tonight knowing that this 66 yo man is in jail. The nerve of him disobeying the law. Lock them all up I say.

Link Posted: 10/30/2006 11:33:27 AM EST

A PENSIONER...



Pretty much sums up the UK, land of Pensioners = socialist
Link Posted: 10/30/2006 11:34:22 AM EST

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
20 years we will be reading the same thing on this site.


Really think it'll take that long?
Link Posted: 10/30/2006 11:34:48 AM EST
Well, now that they've caught all those bangers in the major cities shootin' stuff up I guess they have the time to go after guys like this.

The words "easy target" come to mind.
As in, "See! We're doing something about gun crime! Why look at this huge bust we made."
Link Posted: 10/30/2006 11:34:57 AM EST
The pussification continues. It's all about the merchant class in today's world.
Link Posted: 10/30/2006 11:35:53 AM EST
It won't be much longer until our nation has become like this.

Which is why we MUST vote, it's not a hobby. What we exercise is an inalienable right.
Link Posted: 10/30/2006 11:37:08 AM EST

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
20 years we will be reading the same thing on this site.
Of course it won't be allowed to be called ar15.com.

Get your accounts now before we are all banned at fluffybunny.com


And people wonder why I smoke so much.....

We've reached critical mass with regard to national stupidity. I somehow doubt there's any way to stop it now. In 20 years, we'll be overwhelmed with sheep who've always had cameras everywhere they went, and won't question what they see on TV as anything but the truth. Actors will shape policy as our culture continues to idolize famous people. Anything unhealthy or possibly dangerous will be banned for anyone but the cultural elite.....

Bread and fuckin' circuses.

I need a fuckin' beer.
Link Posted: 10/30/2006 11:37:29 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/30/2006 11:39:46 AM EST

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:

Originally Posted By fiend:
It won't be much longer until our nation has become like this.

Which is why we MUST vote, it's not a hobby. What we exercise is an inalienable right.


when the GUN party gets a candidate let me know. NEITHER party really cares about your guns.


There is no gun party, as both of us know. But we know which one will push another AWB a lot sooner than the other. And we know which of our individual rep's will vote against such things.
Link Posted: 10/30/2006 11:40:21 AM EST
I wonder if vito113 will be posting after this?
Link Posted: 10/30/2006 11:40:55 AM EST

deactivated grenade which an army bomb disposal team was called in to make safe


Link Posted: 10/30/2006 11:43:07 AM EST

...while the Army had to dispose of a deactivated grenade at his home in Gwersyllt, Wrexham.


Stand back, guys!!!
He's got a paperweight in there!!

Link Posted: 10/30/2006 11:44:21 AM EST

Originally Posted By shawn21:

deactivated grenade which an army bomb disposal team was called in to make safe




Yup, they called in EOD to defuse an inert hunk of metal.

Well, what do you expect when an entire culture has been programmed to respond in abject TERROR to IMAGES of things that can hurt you? Hey, it LOOKS like a real grenade so it MUST be dangerous, right?

'scuse me while I go
Link Posted: 10/30/2006 11:48:59 AM EST

Originally Posted By Gravity_Tester:
Bread and fuckin' circuses.

I need a fuckin' beer.


I think I just had an epiphany.

Bread is made with barley. So is beer. And Oprah is a fucking circus.

Beer and Oprah, the Dems want us to have beer and watch Oprah.
Link Posted: 10/30/2006 11:51:26 AM EST

Originally Posted By kitwulfen:

Originally Posted By Gravity_Tester:
Bread and fuckin' circuses.

I need a fuckin' beer.


I think I just had an epiphany.
Bread is made with barley. So is beer. And Oprah is a fucking circus.

Beer and Oprah, the Dems want us to have beer and watch Oprah.


If that's what you'd rate as an epiphany, then I'm glad to help. I'd also suggest you get the paints in your home tested for lead...





­

Link Posted: 10/30/2006 12:00:32 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/30/2006 12:03:57 PM EST

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:

Originally Posted By fiend:
It won't be much longer until our nation has become like this.

Which is why we MUST vote, it's not a hobby. What we exercise is an inalienable right.


when the GUN party gets a candidate let me know. NEITHER party really cares about your guns.


+1


Fucking A

Link Posted: 10/30/2006 12:10:36 PM EST
someone has to say it, what was this guys arfcom screen name?
Link Posted: 10/30/2006 12:12:38 PM EST

We've reached critical mass with regard to national stupidity. I somehow doubt there's any way to stop it now. In 20 years, we'll be overwhelmed with sheep who've always had cameras everywhere they went, and won't question what they see on TV as anything but the truth. Actors will shape policy as our culture continues to idolize famous people. Anything unhealthy or possibly dangerous will be banned for anyone but the cultural elite.....



Not if team 'effing America has any say!
Link Posted: 10/30/2006 12:18:18 PM EST
This is why i'm an NRA life member

These fucking liberal scumbags are completely out of control over there.

Why do they put up with it? How can they stand it?

What happened to them?

Total brainwashing?
Link Posted: 10/30/2006 12:27:06 PM EST

Originally Posted By red65:
These fucking liberal scumbags are completely out of control over there.

Why do they put up with it? How can they stand it?

What happened to them?

Total brainwashing?



Many of them asked for it.

Sometimes they get what they deserve (ie become a victim)
Link Posted: 10/30/2006 12:37:03 PM EST

Originally Posted By Gravity_Tester:

I need a fuckin' beer.


Smartest thing I've heard all day. Me fucking too.
Link Posted: 10/30/2006 12:50:08 PM EST

Originally Posted By AssaultRifler:

A PENSIONER...



Pretty much sums up the UK, land of Pensioners = socialist


a pensioner: A person who worked for 20/30/40 years under an assumption or even contract that after x amount of time worked they will receive x amount of $ per year.

Socialist = a person who worked a week/month/year then got fired or quit and now lives on welfare or unemployment while enjoying all the freebies.
Link Posted: 10/30/2006 1:07:51 PM EST

Originally Posted By Gravity_Tester:

Originally Posted By XDBACKUPGUN:
Ammo posession is illegal across the pond?


So are knives and anything else that's pointy.


Then the Judge's head should be illegal.

What a mess.

I feel for the guy.
Link Posted: 10/30/2006 1:10:51 PM EST

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
20 years we will be reading the same thing on this site.

Of course it won't be allowed to be called ar15.com.

Get your accounts now before we are all banned at fluffybunny.com


MMM ok it's already taken

http://www.fluffybunny.com/
Link Posted: 10/30/2006 1:14:11 PM EST
Wow- they even found guns in a water heater. I wonder if he told them, or if they tore the place apart and found the water tank suspicious enough to take a crowbar to it.

Link Posted: 10/30/2006 1:16:28 PM EST

Originally Posted By AssaultRifler:

A PENSIONER...



Pretty much sums up the UK, land of Pensioners = socialist

No, that's a name for someone who's retired and living on a pension.....
Link Posted: 10/30/2006 1:40:00 PM EST
That man will probably die in prison because he owned and God forbid sold firearms.

That is why next time they try an AWB we need to drop what we're doing and head for Washington making the million man march look like a school tour group. There are an estimated 80 million gun owners in this country if even 10% of us showed for a march think about what that would say to the brain dead and sheltered anti-Second Amendment/Anti-Constitution politicans. Folks of different backgrounds, races, incomes, education levels, and yes even political beliefs united for one cause would really be something to see.

The Second Amendment is the Dooms Day Amendment without it there is no true protection of the others.

Link Posted: 10/30/2006 1:49:54 PM EST

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:

when the GUN party gets a candidate let me know. NEITHER party really cares about your guns.


I don't give a rat's rear end if a particular political party "cares about my guns."

All I ask is that they leave gun laws alone (or turn them back.) I don't mind if it's fear, respect for the constitution or just a pure political move to get votes. Go to mommy if you want someone to care. In the current reality, Republicans are less onerous to gun ownership. They get my vote.
Link Posted: 10/30/2006 10:13:06 PM EST


All I ask is that they leave gun laws alone (or turn them back.) I don't mind if it's fear, respect for the constitution or just a pure political move to get votes. Go to mommy if you want someone to care. In the current reality, Republicans are less onerous to gun ownership. They get my vote.

+87 bazzillion
Link Posted: 10/30/2006 11:34:16 PM EST

Originally Posted By flynlr:


All I ask is that they leave gun laws alone (or turn them back.) I don't mind if it's fear, respect for the constitution or just a pure political move to get votes. Go to mommy if you want someone to care. In the current reality, Republicans are less onerous to gun ownership. They get my vote.

+87 bazzillion


The lesser of two evil's is still evil.
Link Posted: 10/30/2006 11:41:48 PM EST

Originally Posted By red65:
This is why i'm an NRA life member

These fucking liberal scumbags are completely out of control over there.

Why do they put up with it? How can they stand it?

What happened to them?

Total brainwashing?


it is called communism, it strarted in england over 100 years ago. They had a plan, take a little at a time, and the sheeple won't even notice. take over from the top down. it has worked.
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