Greenville SC gets their SWAT team jump qual'd w/ FEMA funding, *rogueboss thread warning*

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Posted: 4/15/2019 6:56:24 AM EDT

Not kidding. Sorry in advance, mods

Also per rogueboss, if you think is silly, YOU ARE A COP HATER.

http://www.recoilweb.com/airborne-with-the-countrys-first-parachute-qualified-swat-team-148068.html

The HMFIC over at DSTG is both a SWAT officer and Army veteran. After witnessing the results of devastating hurricane strikes in both Key West and Puerto Rico, they began working on a grant proposal to FEMA to develop a method of training for delivering specially trained police officers directly into the disaster area.

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Policing disasters from the sky
Fearless men who jump and die
Men who can't count the dogs they've shot
The brave men of the Greenville SWAT

Silver Wings upon their chest
These are men Greenville's best
100 men will want the job
But only 3 will make Greenville SWAT

Trained to live off nature's land
Trained in combat donut in hand
Men who like their coffee hot
Courage take from the Greenville SWAT

Silver Wings upon their chest
These are men Greenville's best
100 men will want the job
But only 3 will make Greenville SWAT

Back at home a badge bunny waits
Her Greenville SWAT has met his fate
He has died in a FEMA mess
Leaving her his last request

Put Silver Wings on my son's chest
Make him one of Greenville's best
He'll be a man who'll need a job
Have him join the Greenville SWAT

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Posted: 4/15/2019 7:00:24 AM EDT

[#1]

Um...

Posted: 4/15/2019 7:00:53 AM EDT

[#2]

Haha Haha! WTF for?

Posted: 4/15/2019 7:00:54 AM EDT

[#3]

For fuck’s sake.

Posted: 4/15/2019 7:02:56 AM EDT

[#4]

I’m sure it was a fun class but that’s fucking stupid if it was paid for out of their normal budget and wasn’t something that they funded themselves.

Posted: 4/15/2019 7:03:53 AM EDT

[#5]

Ever been to Greenville? Not big enough to justify the militarization of a police force, IMO.

Of course, in my opinion, nobody is.

Where do they get all the money for this?

Posted: 4/15/2019 7:03:55 AM EDT

[#6]

That's kind of interesting.

Not sure I agree with this capability for a Local PD SRT but I had discussed this with a state SRT years ago, in the early '90s. Even though they were divided, with prepositioned resources into 3 geographic districts across the state, there still was the occasional response lag due to a variety of circumstances. Some areas took 8 ort more hours for team members to arrive and we were looking for ways to decrease that response time.

As we looked at it became clear pretty quick that while it would be nice to have the capability, maintaining proficiency and associated costs would be a real burden. I was looking at smoke jumper school out in Montana, IIRC.

Be interested to understand how this team justified this capability. As with everything else in life, its a give and take. Adopting this means they gave up something else. e.g. I wonder what their explosive breaching program looks like?

Posted: 4/15/2019 7:04:08 AM EDT

[#7]

I am sure the Tax Payers are happy.

Posted: 4/15/2019 7:06:22 AM EDT

[#8]

And that is why PD's need to be de-funded and their budget cut to the bare bones.

You aren't the fooking Marines or Army Airborne.

Posted: 4/15/2019 7:08:06 AM EDT

[#9]

That’s a bit ridiculous

Posted: 4/15/2019 7:08:23 AM EDT

[#10]

This is textbook LARPing.

Posted: 4/15/2019 7:09:00 AM EDT

[#11]

Tell Fonzi to dig out his water skis...

Posted: 4/15/2019 7:09:20 AM EDT

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Posted: 4/15/2019 7:10:22 AM EDT

[#13]

Have we started a picture thread about what kind of pants they wear?

Posted: 4/15/2019 7:10:49 AM EDT

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Posted: 4/15/2019 7:11:26 AM EDT

[#15]

I bet there's a cool paraswat patch

Posted: 4/15/2019 7:12:21 AM EDT

[#16]

One hut-thousand, two hut-thousand, three hut-thousand, four hut-thousand...

Posted: 4/15/2019 7:12:31 AM EDT

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DISRUPTIVE, it's in the article.

Posted: 4/15/2019 7:12:47 AM EDT

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Maybe even a challenge coin!

Posted: 4/15/2019 7:13:36 AM EDT

[#19]

I am waiting for the water assault training

Posted: 4/15/2019 7:14:45 AM EDT

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OH yeah, they need Draegers.

Posted: 4/15/2019 7:15:26 AM EDT

[#21]

Boondoggle

Posted: 4/15/2019 7:16:09 AM EDT

[#22]

Well, that’s kinda what happens when all them 11BangBangs get out.

About the only job they qual for is being a cop, and they often times forget that they’re civilians now.

Over time, mission creep=huthuthuthut “we seals now!!”huthuthut

Posted: 4/15/2019 7:16:37 AM EDT

[#23]

Lol. In on one.

Posted: 4/15/2019 7:18:07 AM EDT

[#24]

Next: organic fixed wing CAS. Big Green will be sooo jealous.

Posted: 4/15/2019 7:18:27 AM EDT

[#25]

That's ridiculous.

Posted: 4/15/2019 7:18:48 AM EDT

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You are welcome

Posted: 4/15/2019 7:18:57 AM EDT

[#27]

Pretty stupid idea and quite a waste of money.

Posted: 4/15/2019 7:20:10 AM EDT

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In every way. This dept could have sent a lot of beat cops to a good two day training class instead.

Posted: 4/15/2019 7:20:11 AM EDT

[#29]

Someone should be fired over this absolute waste of taxpayer funds.

Posted: 4/15/2019 7:20:17 AM EDT

[#30]

Nice. Bunches haters in here

Posted: 4/15/2019 7:20:20 AM EDT

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That's kind of interesting.

Not sure I agree with this capability for a Local PD SRT but I had discussed this with a state SRT years ago, in the early '90s. Even though they were divided, with prepositioned resources into 3 geographic districts across the state, there still was the occasional response lag due to a variety of circumstances. Some areas took 8 ort more hours for team members to arrive and we were looking for ways to decrease that response time.

As we looked at it became clear pretty quick that while it would be nice to have the capability, maintaining proficiency and associated costs would be a real burden. I was looking at smoke jumper school out in Montana, IIRC.

Be interested to understand how this team justified this capability. As with everything else in life, its a give and take. Adopting this means they gave up something else. e.g. I wonder what their explosive breaching program looks like?

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Playing devils advocate here, but if roads are impassible due to gridlock/flooding/ice, how else are you going to reliably get into an area? Aircraft. How much does a helicopter rental/purchase cost, verses having your guys jump qualified + jumpable aircraft cost? This is obviously at a State level, agreed local PD is stupid.

Posted: 4/15/2019 7:23:53 AM EDT

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Not very fiscally conservative, eh?

Posted: 4/15/2019 7:25:02 AM EDT

[#33]

Sometimes we get wrapped up in what we thing are noble gestures. Where were the adults in the room to tell these bunch of high school kids to knock it off?

Or am I not looking at the totality of the circumstances?

Posted: 4/15/2019 7:26:39 AM EDT

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Playing devils advocate here, but if roads are impassible due to gridlock/flooding/ice, how else are you going to reliably get into an area?

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And what they hell are these cops gonna do when they get there?

Para-trained EMTs make more sense... and they don’t make much sense either. This is taxpayer-funded adult fantasy camp.

Posted: 4/15/2019 7:27:00 AM EDT

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If this were a spiff that the did for team building the cool. If it is under serious tactical consideration then

Posted: 4/15/2019 7:28:18 AM EDT

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Not very fiscally conservative, eh?

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I’m sure SWATs training budget for them is set in advance like everywhere else. Rather see them go to this than CIT class or some other bs class

Posted: 4/15/2019 7:28:54 AM EDT

[#37]

So basically a bunch of dudes wanted to go skydiving on the taxpayers dime.

Posted: 4/15/2019 7:29:14 AM EDT

[#38]

Your budget might be too big if....

Posted: 4/15/2019 7:29:17 AM EDT

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I’m sure SWATs training budget for them is set in advance like everywhere else. Rather see them go to this than CIT class or some other bs class

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Not very fiscally conservative, eh?

I’m sure SWATs training budget for them is set in advance like everywhere else. Rather see them go to this than CIT class or some other bs class

I'd rather see beat cops actually trained how to shoot.

Posted: 4/15/2019 7:29:49 AM EDT

[#40]

Are they going to airdrop command elements and supplies too? Wouldn’t a helicopter work better. Not only could they put the popo where they need to be but they can also move them and resupply all with fewer injuries.

Posted: 4/15/2019 7:29:50 AM EDT

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Playing devils advocate here, but if roads are impassible due to gridlock/flooding/ice, how else are you going to reliably get into an area? Aircraft. How much does a helicopter rental/purchase cost, verses having your guys jump qualified + jumpable aircraft cost? This is obviously at a State level, agreed local PD is stupid.

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Shhhhh don’t come in here making sense. GD is cop hating in here

Posted: 4/15/2019 7:30:30 AM EDT

[#42]

You guys just don’t understand. It’s very popular for meth labs to be built inside castles around here, and we don’t have many ladders.

Posted: 4/15/2019 7:30:31 AM EDT

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Playing devils advocate here, but if roads are impassible due to gridlock/flooding/ice, how else are you going to reliably get into an area? Aircraft. How much does a helicopter rental/purchase cost, verses having your guys jump qualified + jumpable aircraft cost?

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If that’s the case, how are your guys going to get to the airport, how will a plane be able to safely take off and land, and who’s going to manage their DZ planning? And what conceivable scenario would be so pressing that it would require a SWAT team to jump in via static line BUT would be stable enough to allow these guys to cobble together an airborne operation?

There are a bunch of teams in the United States who have a virtually unlimited budget and an area of responsibility that covers many miles. The fact that none of them have ever bothered with static line parachuting says a whole lot about its practicality.

Posted: 4/15/2019 7:31:12 AM EDT

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I'd rather see beat cops actually trained how to shoot.

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What’s that have to do with a training swat went to?

Most places have different budgets for each

And every best cop on the job is firearms qualified, right? Means they were at lease somewhat decent at one point

Posted: 4/15/2019 7:31:53 AM EDT

[#45]

Going to be pretty sweet when they get their first milsurp C130.

Posted: 4/15/2019 7:31:59 AM EDT

[#46]

Can't wave to the kids or get a free cup of coffee up there...

Posted: 4/15/2019 7:32:19 AM EDT

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Shhhhh don’t come in here making sense. GD is cop hating in here

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Playing devils advocate here, but if roads are impassible due to gridlock/flooding/ice, how else are you going to reliably get into an area? Aircraft. How much does a helicopter rental/purchase cost, verses having your guys jump qualified + jumpable aircraft cost? This is obviously at a State level, agreed local PD is stupid.

Shhhhh don’t come in here making sense. GD is cop hating in here

You think that this is "cop hating"? Seriously?