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Posted: 4/26/2002 2:34:08 PM EDT
I've been reading "Unintended Consequences" and the main character has all these large caliber rifles.  Now I'm kinda getting the urge to get something that can bruise the shoulder that's bigger than .30 cal.  I also don't want to fork out 3-5K for a .50.  What  would you guys recommend?

BTW, this would not be for hunting, just recreational shooting.  Ain't no elephants where I live.
Link Posted: 4/26/2002 2:40:31 PM EDT
[#1]
.338 ultra mag
Link Posted: 4/26/2002 2:46:09 PM EDT
[#2]
458 SOCOM. It uses an AR15 lower and mags. Hits like a hammer, and after not too many shots you can have a bruise!!

[beer]

Also, only $865 delivered!!

[url]www.teppojutsu.com[/url]
Link Posted: 4/26/2002 2:55:43 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/26/2002 2:59:53 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
I also don't want to fork out 3-5K for a .50.  What  would you guys recommend?
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How about 2-3K for a .50?  I have no personal experience with their .50's but Armalite usually makes a good product.  I've seen their .50s at just over $2k.

There's also manufacturers who sell .50 uppers that fit on the AR-15 [:D] lower.
Link Posted: 4/26/2002 3:03:17 PM EDT
[#5]
Link Posted: 4/26/2002 3:09:15 PM EDT
[#6]
700 Nitro Express.

.700 Nitro-Express
 
1000 grain Soft Nose or Solid Bullet Muzzle Velocity 1853 ft/sec. Energy 7650 ft/lbs. BL 26

OR You can opt for the 700 Juggernaut

Actual Diameter .700
Bullet Weight (Grains) 1200
Average Velocity (Muzzle)(Max) 2,300(1200gr)
Average Energy (Muzzle)(Max) 15,000(1200gr)
Effective Range (yards) 0-200
Game Class Dinosaures
Year Introduced 2000 (proposed plan)
Status Wildcat
Recoil (12.25 lb rifle)(1200gr) ??.?? > 175 ft/lbs
Powder Charge approx. 250grs
Link Posted: 4/26/2002 3:09:55 PM EDT
[#7]
.460 Mag---all the shoulder bruising you can handle
Link Posted: 4/26/2002 3:10:52 PM EDT
[#8]
Link Posted: 4/26/2002 3:12:18 PM EDT
[#9]
.50 BMG [50]
Accept No Substitutes (Only half serious, but if that's what you want don't settle and end up unhappy)

Really, nobody can actually afford to buy a fifty. We just find a way to pay for them and minimize the damage to the budget somehow.
Link Posted: 4/26/2002 3:24:54 PM EDT
[#10]
Okay, here's another question.  Can a standard AR-15 lower stand up to a large caliber upper comfortably?  This ought to be a no-brainer, but it seems to me there could be subtle effects, such as receiver shape distortion, or faster than normal wear on some parts.  Any thoughts?
Link Posted: 4/26/2002 3:26:23 PM EDT
[#11]
marvl, here's the problem. Any decent .50 cal substitute is gonna cost as much as a .50 cal. Even the .338 lapau is right up there and ammo is more expensive than buying .50 cal because there is no surplus.

In addition the .50s in the 2k range are pretty dubious. Anything of quality is gonna cost money. The Armalite .50 and the Barrett 99 are the best bang for the buck.

The bottom line is you can either afford artillery or you can't.
Link Posted: 4/26/2002 8:18:44 PM EDT
[#12]
The price off brass for the 340 weatherby, 338x378 Weatherby, 338 Lapua, 338 Canadian and 330 Dakota seem to run about $40.00 a box. The brass for the 338 Rem Ultra runs about $14.00 a box slightly more than the 338 Win Mag which is about$10.00 a box.If you handload the cost of feeding a 338 isn't all that bad. I think the 338 mags are some  of the more useful cartridges as they offer the trajectories and velocities of the 7MM mags and 300 mags with a lot more when they get there.
If I were just getting framiliar with the 338 I would start with the 338 Win Mag in a 700 Remington. The reasons I would start with the 338 Win is barrel life and recoil. I'm not a Remington freak but the 700 offers the length, the full length ejection port and the bottom metal to go to a 375 H&H length cartridge should you feel you need more recoil at a later time. Keep in mind it's real easy to turn a 338 Win mag into a 338 Rem Ultra mag but Its real hard to turn that 338 Ultra back into a 338 Win mag.
Have a nice evening,  Rabon...  
Link Posted: 4/26/2002 8:30:27 PM EDT
[#13]
BTW I forgot to mention that the perfect rifle for the lower 48 would be a very nice pre 64 model 70 chambered for the 330 Dakota weighing in at about 9 lbs. Would that be sweet or what?
Link Posted: 4/26/2002 8:35:53 PM EDT
[#14]
Go with a 458 win. mag in a Model 70. Just in case the local elephant form the zoo goes on a rampage
Link Posted: 4/26/2002 8:39:03 PM EDT
[#15]
...and here I am thinking those Russian Surplus M44's in 7.62x54R were pretty kick booty!
Link Posted: 4/26/2002 8:42:45 PM EDT
[#16]
Link Posted: 4/26/2002 9:16:14 PM EDT
[#17]
I also wanted a big assed rifle... this is what I made. I bought a 1917 enfeild action($35 at a gun show). Then a douglas 10x barrel($100 at same show). I took this to my local smith , a good friend, and had it's chamber cut in .358 norma mag. After asemble and blue another 150 bucks. Got a stock made frome select walnut by a very good local cabinet maker for $200. scope sling excetra adds another 500 bucks. So for a grand you get a very hard hitting custom rifle that will send a 250 grain bullet out at 3000 fps and kick the snot out of you in the process. Is it worth it???? I dont know, but it was fun and man does it knock the shit out of an elk!
Link Posted: 4/27/2002 7:40:01 AM EDT
[#18]
Do what I plan to do, pick up a Ruger No1 in 458Win mag and have a gunsmith run a 458 Lott reamer thru it . Affordable bigbore fun.
Link Posted: 4/27/2002 9:06:43 AM EDT
[#19]
Man, I could use one of everything mentioned.  But then I'd have to buy a couple more gun safes, and I don't have any room. [;)]

Lumpy, The buttstock on your ar15 lower: is that maded specifically for the Ferret?

Thanks
Link Posted: 4/27/2002 9:15:08 AM EDT
[#20]
AR-10 in 300WSM
Link Posted: 4/27/2002 9:21:43 AM EDT
[#21]
[img]www.barrettrifles.com/images/model82A1.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 4/28/2002 4:48:12 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/28/2002 4:58:25 AM EDT
[#23]
That's one nice looking gun. [^] May have to get one.
Link Posted: 4/28/2002 5:32:59 AM EDT
[#24]
GA Precision M40A3 copy in .300 Winchester Magnum.  Rifle shoots 1.5", 5 shot groups at 300 yards.  .300 Win-Mag  shooting 163g
black tip AP rounds will penetrate a 1" steel plate at 100 yards.

[img]http://www.hunting-pictures.com/members/AcDoctor/300%20Win-Mag.jpg[/img]
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