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Posted: 12/2/2007 12:57:10 AM EDT
I don't think things can get more screwed up with airport security.

This isn't about how investigators were able to smuggle liquid explosives and detonators past TSA screeners earlier this year.

It's about the atrocious treatment endured by some Fort Lewis soldiers who were escorting the remains of a colleague home to Virginia earlier this month.

Brief background: On the tarmac, an honor guard had been formed by Port of Seattle Police, airport fire and rescue and military personnel as the soldier's body was placed on the plane.

A police officer then took the escort soldiers up to security.

The TSA screener checked everyone's ID, including the police officer, and then had the soldiers go through the metal detectors.

Their combat ribbons and medals set off the alarms.

So what does the TSA screener do?

He has the soldiers strip off their uniforms - in front of everyone - down to their tee shirts, pants and socks.

Will someone please tell me what the hell is wrong with these people?

How does some inept, insensitive idiot with the IQ of room temperature even get a TSA job?

That TSA screener should have his ass fired.

And those soldiers deserve at least an apology.

www.komotv.com/features/kenschram/11929911.html
www.komotv.com/news/11973956.html
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 1:26:17 AM EDT
[#1]
I hate the TSA.

I post that in every TSA thread, but this one is even more incredible than most.  Words cannot convey my disgust for the TSA.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 1:45:48 AM EDT
[#2]
I don't like, and am not impressed with TSA. Give a school bus driver a gun, and a little power = TSA.

I'm clued in enough to not fight the process, or call attention to myself.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 1:49:20 AM EDT
[#3]
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 1:56:36 AM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
When I was in michigan for training, we as mechanics had supervised and unsupervised access to the airplane for the better part of 8 hours.  Then, when we went to fly out on that plane, every person flying out had to go through screening.
The TSA's treatment of soldiers is maddening to no end, but my experience is just funny.


My brother TRAINS mechanics on airport controls, and whatnot. He is flown all over the world... He also has to go through the TSA screens.

He laughs it off. He calls them "little, power hungry, fry cookers...with a real job now"
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 2:03:36 AM EDT
[#5]
I work with a woman worked for the TSA. She worked there for about a year in a supervisory position. She now will not fly, anywhere for any reason.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 8:42:21 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
I work with a woman worked for the TSA. She worked there for about a year in a supervisory position. She now will not fly, anywhere for any reason.


Now that's a big suprize, why would a X TSA employee refuse to fly
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 8:45:12 AM EDT
[#7]
We need to contract out airport security and let them start profiling.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 8:48:41 AM EDT
[#8]
I just want my butter knife returned.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 8:50:18 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
I don't like, and am not impressed with TSA. Give a school bus driver a gun, and a little power = TSA.

I'm clued in enough to not fight the process, or call attention to myself.


I'm clued in enough not to fly commercial.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 8:51:03 AM EDT
[#10]
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 8:51:56 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
"little, power hungry, fry cookers...with a real job now"


Spot on...

Link Posted: 12/2/2007 9:01:28 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
That TSA screener should have his ass fired.



Preferably out a 16-inch naval gun.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 9:03:07 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:

Quoted:
"little, power hungry, fry cookers...with a real job now"


Spot on...



Actually I believe that's an overestimation of their competence and intelligence.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 9:07:22 AM EDT
[#14]
Whenever I deal with TSA I just think to myself:

Self, if .gov takes over healthcare this person (with her 2" fingernails, amazing aroma, and command of the English language) could be my doctor.

Viva la Hillary and el RINOs!
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 9:12:09 AM EDT
[#15]
I've met nice and I've met ignorant TSA people.  I'm all for privatizing their function.  Just leave a handful of supervisors to ensure that someone is watching the contract security.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 9:12:27 AM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:

Quoted:
That TSA screener should have his ass fired.



Preferably out a 16-inch naval gun.


+10

Link Posted: 12/2/2007 9:14:07 AM EDT
[#17]
I'm glad I don't fly.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 9:18:21 AM EDT
[#18]
I took one of my soldiers, PFC CARTER, home. Since he was considered freight, I never had to go through the standard bullshit. After he was put on the plane,I was checked by security down below the terminal(where all the baggage is sent for loading)  in private before they let me upstairs to board. EDIT:spelling

TSA Seattle could have done this in a more respectful manner. The military could have arranged it better as well since new security parameters have been in place since 9/11

PFC Carter, one day I will meet up with you at Fiddlers Green.

   Halfway down the trail to hell
   In a shady meadow green,
   Are the souls of all dead troopers camped
   Near a good old-time canteen
   And this eternal resting place
   Is known as Fiddler’s Green.

   Marching past, straight through to hell,
   The infantry are seen,
   Accompanied by the Engineers,
   Artillery and Marine,
   For none but the shades of Cavalrymen
   Dismount at Fiddlers' Green.

   Though some go curving down the trail
   To seek a warmer scene,
   No trooper ever gets to Hell
   Ere he's emptied his canteen,
   And so rides back to drink again
   With friends at Fiddlers' Green.

   And so when man and horse go down
   Beneath a saber keen,
   Or in a roaring charge or fierce melee
   You stop a bullet clean,
   And the hostiles come to get your scalp,
   Just empty your canteen,
   And put your pistol to your head
   And go to Fiddlers' Green.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 9:21:05 AM EDT
[#19]
Common sense ain't so common.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 9:24:10 AM EDT
[#20]
TSA

Take Scissors Away

Thousands Standing Around

The biggest waste of tax dollars ever.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 9:26:48 AM EDT
[#21]
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 9:31:52 AM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
I've met nice and I've met ignorant TSA people.  I'm all for privatizing their function.  Just leave a handful of supervisors to ensure that someone is watching the contract security.


Exactly.  The U.S. Marshals Service has been doing that with courthouse security for years and it works well.  The primary advantage is that if you have a screw-up on your hands, it is infinitely easier to get rid of him.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 9:34:58 AM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:


Will someone please tell me what the hell is wrong with these people?



its ran by the federal government.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 9:43:57 AM EDT
[#24]
They should turn the whole TSA system over to the private sector where it belongs.
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 1:07:36 PM EDT
[#25]
we are the front lines to protect america
MY ass
Totally Stupid Anal
-0-common sense
to many chiefs and no workers///
worked at an airport 10yrs 11mts =+2 seasonal just to get in (city owned airport)
hit by a crackhead (rear ended truck)
he get off easy me loose my job because of injury major operation on shoulder and insurance was a joke glad i upped my state farm still a little pissy about it but i am alive and mad as hell time baby time then it my turn!!
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 1:22:31 PM EDT
[#26]
TSA always gave me shit on every deployment.

My kudos go out to the customs folks.

"You're returning from a deployment? Here is your ID, there is no need to search your bags. Thanks for your service, and welcome back to the states. "
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 1:23:23 PM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:
I took one of my soldiers, PFC CARTER, home. Since he was considered freight, I never had to go through the standard bullshit. After he was put on the plane,I was checked by security down below the terminal(where all the baggage is sent for loading)  in private before they let me upstairs to board. EDIT:spelling


3ACR?
Link Posted: 12/2/2007 1:28:34 PM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:
Whenever I deal with TSA I just think to myself:

Self, if .gov takes over healthcare this person (with her 2" fingernails, amazing aroma, and command of the English language) could be my doctor.

Viva la Hillary and el RINOs!

"Federalize will professionalize."

Link Posted: 12/2/2007 1:31:54 PM EDT
[#29]
So you made baggage screeners federal employees, increased their pay by whatever ungodly amount, oh and they can't be fired.........what could go wrong?

You should see what they have to do for job screening.  Here's to keeping my family safe.
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