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Posted: 4/21/2016 11:04:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/21/2016 11:05:39 PM EDT by VooDoo3dfx]


Amid rising drug and health care costs and roiling market dynamics, the spokesperson for the nation’s health insurers is predicting substantial increases next year in Obamacare premiums and related costs.

Without venturing a specific percentage increase, Marilyn Tavenner, the president and CEO of America’s Health Insurance Plans (AHIP), said in an interview with Morning Consult that the culmination of market shifts and rising health care costs will force stark increases in health insurance rates in the coming year.

“I’ve been asked, what are the premiums going to look like?” she said. “I don’t know because it also varies by state, market, even within markets. But I think the overall trend is going to be higher than we saw previous years. That’s my big prediction.”

If Tavenner is right, Obamacare will jump dramatically—last year’s premium for the popular silver-level plan surged 11 percent on average. Although Tavenner didn’t mention deductibles, in 2016, some states saw jumps of 76 percent, while the average deductible for a 27-year-old male on a silver plan was 8 percent.

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Bend over
Link Posted: 4/21/2016 11:05:55 PM EDT
Well, someone has to pay for the FSA!
Link Posted: 4/21/2016 11:06:35 PM EDT
My health insurance was canceled because of Obamacare. So, no worries about premium rises!
Link Posted: 4/21/2016 11:07:20 PM EDT
Fucking lying assholes.
Link Posted: 4/21/2016 11:08:02 PM EDT
FBHO

FACA
Link Posted: 4/21/2016 11:08:16 PM EDT
Anyone who didn't see this coming is either an idiot or completely deluded.
Link Posted: 4/21/2016 11:09:46 PM EDT
PSA

A simple WARNING letter from a utility company for a past due balance gets you out of the obamacare fine.

Skip a month on your water bill, and keep it from tax season.
Link Posted: 4/21/2016 11:15:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Marlboroman79:
PSA

A simple WARNING letter from a utility company for a past due balance gets you out of the obamacare fine.

Skip a month on your water bill, and keep it from tax season.
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Bork your credit, pay your health insurance.   What to do, whaaaaat to doooooo?
Link Posted: 4/21/2016 11:16:37 PM EDT
Huh, almost like it was designed to run premiums through the roof. Are we clamoring for single payer yet?
Link Posted: 4/21/2016 11:28:14 PM EDT
Using form 8965 is another possible way to avoid paying the penalty. It's worked for me. Probably not for all you ARF millionaires though.

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f8965.pdf    form
https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i8965.pdf    instructions
Link Posted: 4/21/2016 11:30:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/21/2016 11:32:37 PM EDT by gym007]
Affordable Healthcare Act, yay!

With the government, you can expect the complete opposite of the bill name.

Patriot Act
Affordable Care Act
SAFE Act
Etc.
Link Posted: 4/21/2016 11:31:59 PM EDT
United Healthcare is pulling out of the ACA markets. Blue Cross Blue Shield most likely also will. There's no profit to be made, only massive losses.
Link Posted: 4/21/2016 11:54:48 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 12:03:14 AM EDT
Lean Forward Comrades!!!!
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 12:06:21 AM EDT
Our family's rates went from $619/month last year, to $819/month this year, and I have learned that we didn't even see anywhere near what some of my friends have seen ($1600/month for 2).

We just pulled out.   That was my wife and kids, with me not even on the plan.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 12:07:58 AM EDT
But Bill Maher said Obama made the healthcare system better!
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 12:08:22 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By Marlboroman79:


PSA



A simple WARNING letter from a utility company for a past due balance gets you out of the obamacare fine.



Skip a month on your water bill, and keep it from tax season.
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Jokes on them, I've been doing that for years.

 
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 12:11:08 AM EDT
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 12:11:23 AM EDT
I guess Joe Wilson was right.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 12:12:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/22/2016 12:13:53 AM EDT by cyborg543]
I don't understand????!!!

You mean you can't just make a law that defies all forms of mathematics and still have everything work out perfect?

That's racist

why won't white people let obamacare just work already

it's very simple - a far too small number of people pay moderate insurance premiums so that a huge number of people can get astronomically overpriced healthcare

why shouldn't that work?

answer: white people are selfish and racist oppressors
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 12:13:53 AM EDT
I'm waiting for my $2500 drop!  Where is it barry?
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 12:16:47 AM EDT
stop being so negative everyone

that makes obamacare not work

and stop being so white, it's triggering
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 4:49:51 AM EDT
And it will be the fault of the next administration. If it's a republican.



If it's a democrat it will be bushes fault.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 4:55:07 AM EDT
Cloward Piven baby.  Burn it all down so we can fundamentally change America.  
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 4:55:32 AM EDT
Everyone was  going to get free insurance and health care! I feel like I may have been lied to.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 5:00:59 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By GarandM1:
Anyone who didn't see this coming is either an idiot or completely deluded.
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but if it helps just one person....



Years past, if I had a health issue I would just go to the Dr. and pay my $20.00 co-pay and be done with it.  Not that I had to go often, it was probably once or twice a year.


These days?  I want to go to Dr. to address some hip pain I am having, but will now have to pay $60.00 (at least) out of pocket to do so which is making me hesitant to schedule an appt. and instead adopt a "wait and see" approach to this mysterious hip pain.  

Link Posted: 4/22/2016 5:06:46 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By stevelish:

Bork your credit, pay your health insurance.   What to do, whaaaaat to doooooo?
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Originally Posted By stevelish:
Originally Posted By Marlboroman79:
PSA

A simple WARNING letter from a utility company for a past due balance gets you out of the obamacare fine.

Skip a month on your water bill, and keep it from tax season.

Bork your credit, pay your health insurance.   What to do, whaaaaat to doooooo?

One past due warning does nothing to your credit.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 5:25:26 AM EDT
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 5:36:42 AM EDT
Unaffordable Healthcare Act
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 5:41:31 AM EDT
LOL Obamacare cost me my insurance. So now I claim exemptions and give uncle sam the finger.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 5:57:01 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By desertw0lf:
LOL Obamacare cost me my insurance. So now I claim exemptions and give uncle sam the finger.
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Gotta do what you gotta do.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 10:28:17 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By stevelish:

Bork your credit, pay your health insurance.   What to do, whaaaaat to doooooo?
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Originally Posted By stevelish:
Originally Posted By Marlboroman79:
PSA

A simple WARNING letter from a utility company for a past due balance gets you out of the obamacare fine.

Skip a month on your water bill, and keep it from tax season.

Bork your credit, pay your health insurance.   What to do, whaaaaat to doooooo?


Typically a warning letter doesn't "bork your credit".
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 10:29:25 AM EDT
not even slightly surprised. it will go up 50% every year until the wheels fall off.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 10:33:48 AM EDT
Open enrollment is right before the election too.  
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 10:40:10 AM EDT
Thank god I have a union job....

7 bucks bi weekly for coverage. Good coverage at that!
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 10:42:05 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By buck19delta:
not even slightly surprised. it will go up 50% every year until the wheels fall off.
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You mean socialism doesn't work?

And millions think that free college is going to work too
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 10:50:11 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Alex_F:


Typically a warning letter doesn't "bork your credit".
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Originally Posted By Alex_F:
Originally Posted By stevelish:
Originally Posted By Marlboroman79:
PSA

A simple WARNING letter from a utility company for a past due balance gets you out of the obamacare fine.

Skip a month on your water bill, and keep it from tax season.

Bork your credit, pay your health insurance.   What to do, whaaaaat to doooooo?


Typically a warning letter doesn't "bork your credit".


I was about to say...I have never had water utils reported on my credit. If you dont ever pay it to the point it goes to collections, which in some states is 6-8 months, THEN it will show..
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 10:51:41 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Marlboroman79:
PSA

A simple WARNING letter from a utility company for a past due balance gets you out of the obamacare fine.

Skip a month on your water bill, and keep it from tax season.
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You may want to find out which utility actually gives warning letters first. My water utility doesn't give warning letters - they just lock your meter until you pay.

Also - warning letters typically don't get turned over immediately to collections or reported to credit bureaus.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 10:54:43 AM EDT
This shit needs to be shouted from the rooftops in the run up to the election and the every Commie bastard that voted for it needs to be jailed for misleading the public and then beaten for setting it up so that the full fucking doesn't commence until AFTER the election.

Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:07:42 AM EDT
My company made the decision to go "partially self funded" for our healthcare offerings this year. We hold the cash we and our employees pay in for premiums and actually pay the medical bills our self up to a certain amount at which a "catastrophic" policy kicks in.

Its a gamble that we wont have 12 kidney replacements or heart transplants that would exhaust our premiums, but the only way we could still offer insurance at a reasonable price.. around 20 bucks a week for a family plan (employee cost).
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:10:41 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By WILSON:
Same here.  
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Originally Posted By WILSON:
Originally Posted By NukeFromOrbit:
My health insurance was canceled because of Obamacare. So, no worries about premium rises!
Same here.  


I was "saved" from my "inadequate" catastrophic care policy by Obamacare because it didn't cover my nonexistent vagina and other stupid stuff.
Now I have no insurance and had to pay the penalty this year. I am trying to find a non exchange policy that has decent coverage and somewhat sane rates but no luck so far.
Thanks Obamacare for fixing all this.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 11:22:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By dirtyboy:
I'm waiting for my $2500 drop!  Where is it barry?
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Just think of how expensive it would be if you weren't saving $2500!
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 1:36:05 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 1:38:22 PM EDT
Time to switch to that high deductible plan, i'm getting all my surgeries take care of this year.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 1:48:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WILSON:
Some of us are far beyond shouting.

2006 my health insurance premium cost 12% of my total income.
2009 it was 19%
2012 it was 23%
2015  Obama tried to bump it to 49%
Today it's a 1-1/4 oz 12ga Federal Power-Shok Slug.

Thanks Obugna.


 
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Originally Posted By WILSON:
Originally Posted By Hillbilly69:
This shit needs to be shouted from the rooftops in the run up to the election and the every Commie bastard that voted for it needs to be jailed for misleading the public and then beaten for setting it up so that the full fucking doesn't commence until AFTER the election.
Some of us are far beyond shouting.

2006 my health insurance premium cost 12% of my total income.
2009 it was 19%
2012 it was 23%
2015  Obama tried to bump it to 49%
Today it's a 1-1/4 oz 12ga Federal Power-Shok Slug.

Thanks Obugna.


 


I'm hip brother.

I've already been involved with the exchange. What a shitshow that was.

Got lucky though and went to work for a company with great insurance AND a $500 deductible.  





For now.    


I'm dead serial about prosecuting those that foisted this on us though.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 1:50:49 PM EDT
I thought this was supposed to happen prior to the upcoming election, but they knew what it would mean to Hillary, so they worked it out to where it would kick in after she is elected.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 1:50:53 PM EDT
I predict a 87% increase....Why not?
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 1:52:48 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 2:37:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GeorgiaBII:
Thank god I have a union job....

7 bucks bi weekly for coverage. Good coverage at that!
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That won't last, as I recall.  Those Cadillac plans the Unions got exempted are only exempted until, what next year?  Then you will see costs rising.
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