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Posted: 8/16/2007 1:24:15 PM EST
This article made me go cross eyed for a few minutes. I wonder where this will lead mankind? Interesting development for sure if it is indeed true.
Germans speeding I searched and didn't find this so if its a dupe I will attempt to travel back in time and erase this thread by traveling faster than the speed of light. |
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Interesting story fur shur...
But I will believe that scientists can propel a space ship at the speed of light AFTER they can send a space shuttle into close orbit without a peice of friggin foam knocking-off another tile... |
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If it were true, I would have already posted....so I would dupe myself.
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I wonder where this will lead mankind? Interesting development for sure if it is indeed true. lets hope faster interweb, todays pron is way to slow. Ok for real, this might be huge! ( yes if true) |
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Is this the quantum teleportation that's been written about for a while? Where they "entangle" two...photons, I think...and then separate them, and whatever changes are made to one particle are reflected in the other? Because in that case nothing actually moves except information. If they're actually moving photons themselves that's a major breakthrough.
I wonder what kind of bomb we can build using this new technology |
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This doesn't make any sense to me. If I shine a flashlight at something, the light will hit it after I flip the switch. If that light goes slightly faster, how would it get there before I turn on the light? |
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"Tissue box and Jerkins hand lotion at the ready captain!" |
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Maybe you have a slow flashlight. Have you tried a Surefire? |
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There is no natural law that says the universe has to make sense. The fact that it makes as much sense as it does is merely an accident. |
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Yea Right. Read the article and if you understand the theory of relativity you don't arive at a destination before you leave but you only age a little and the world around you would have aged more. As it was explained to me if you were to orbit the earth at the spead of light once and land if you had children they would be as old as your grand parents when you landed and you would have aged only a few hours.
so their light got to the other prism before it left the other? OK if they say so. |
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I'll have to call BS unless it includes an Einstein-Rosen bridge
or similar theory to draw the conclusion that you can travel faster than 186,202 miles per second. I thoght the experiment was cool when they synched two cesium clocks and left one at rest and placed the other in an air itinerary that circumnavigated the globe. The clock that was transported showed less time had passed than the stationary clock. The difference was only a very small fraction, but it was a difference. |
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So what does this mean for the everyday person?
Will I be able to download porn any faster? |
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"For instance, an astronaut moving faster than it would theoretically arrive at a destination before leaving."
No he wouldn't. This is what I never understood(i've heard this claim before). So you travel faster than the speed of light? If you left our solar system for another that is 200 light years away and you were traveling slightly faster than the speed of light it would still take you years to get there. It might take some time for light to catch up to you(in other words, you could look backwards and theoretically see yourself arrive even though you have already arrived) but you wouldn't get to the new solar system 'before leaving the old one.' |
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Careful! Or you'll go plaid! |
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This is about quantum tunneling. Various researchers have been doing this for a while now.
Take particle A and shoot it through a substance. Calculate the time it would take particle A to traverse the physical distance at the speed of light. Measure the actual time it takes for particle A to show up on the other side. If it's less than the time you calculated, congratulations. Particle A just moved faster than the speed of light. So far, it only applies to subatomic particles. I think the only difference in this experiment is the distance the particle was able to traverse. Of course, it's not as cool as a pair of tits or anything. |
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How long before this technology is used to blitzkrieg France?
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Errr... no. If you orbited the Earth at the speed of light, you would complete your orbit a minute fraction of an instant after you started it. The Earth would have aged that minute fraction of an instant, and you would have aged a minute fraction of that minute fraction of an instant. And that is putting aside the fact that you'd have to accelerate to c in two dimensions at once, since there's no way Earth's pitiful gravity well could hold an object travelling at c in an orbit... if it could, earth would have collapsed into a singularity If you were to, say, fly to Alpha Centauri at the speed of light and return, when you got back everyone on Earth would have aged about 8.6 years, while you would have aged maybe a few hours. |
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Damn straight! The wonders of the universe fascinate me. My mind is a thirsty sponge for knowledge. But the minute a pair of those jiggles by... [DROOL]... I am Homer Simpson... |
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This is fantastic news. Now the Germans can go back and execute all of David Hasselhoffs ancestors.
YaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyGo germenzzz |
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Have you seen the set that are floating around here? there pretty nice. |
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Yep. People are confusing "time travel" with breaking the speed of light. Everything we see is a reflection of light. Traveling at above the speed of light basically means you are moving faster than what can be reflected and seen. Think of it this way. Many of the stars we see at night are no longer stars. That light you see up there can be many many years old, and that star is now burnt out. I believe the light from the sun takes about 10 minutes or so to reach earth. |
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My first guess was that this would be used as a form of birth control.
I wonder what moral implications time travel would have on pro creation? Is it technically an abortion to go back in time and "eject before detonation"? I think it would be pretty popular to re-live one moment over and over, like the last moments of sex? |
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And the steady march toward Idiocracy continues. |
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If i remember right, mathematically if you traveled to AC and back at the speed of light, zero time would pass for you during transit. For you to feel time, you have to be traveling at some fraction of light, .999c etc. if you travel at precisely C the travel from your perspective would be instantaneous.
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The amount of time it takes for a photon to travel 3 feet is 0.000010989010989010989 seconds. 11 millionths of a second. I guess I'm not surprised that they could come up with a way to accurately measure time to that degree. But photons are a special case anyway, as they're supposed to be both particles and waves. |
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So If we traveled around the galaxy for a little while and came back... We could end up in like a starwars type future? |
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Right, but I always assume that you're just below c (due to relativistic limitations... we don't have infinite energy, and we don't want our traveller to assume infinite mass), and that you have to accelerate four times... departing Earth, arriivng at AC, departing AC again, and arriving at earth again. Of course, I'm assuming acceleration of hundreds of thousands of gravities, since if we can travel at c then we've probably also discovered an inertial sink, and i don't want to have to calculate how many hours at noticeably sub-c velocities our astronaut is travelling And, so far, as long as stuff like this experiment can be explained by "quantum tunneling", it's still very likely that the general theory of relativity has not been disproven, and that a physical object cannot reach nor exceed c. |
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Are you gay? I'm just askin'... |
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Ok, Im not a scientist.
What does speed have to do with time? I dont understand that. If I leave to a point 120,000 miles away, and return, if my average speed was 240,000 mph, the trip would take me 1 hour. How is it that more than 1 hour would pass for the people at my point of origin? Can someone explain that to me? RR |
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It all has to do with teh boobies. Everything does... |
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The time experienced by the observer (people at point of origin) would be 1 hour. The time experienced by you would be t = 1 hour*sqrt(C^2-240,000^2)/C Without doing the math, I'm guessing t=3599 seconds. (Actual answer is 3599.9998 seconds). That is because you are around 0.0003 of the speed of light. As your speed approaches the speed of light, time experienced by you (not the observer) would slow down per the equation above. The reasons are complex and best googled (speed, time, relativity keywords). Edit to account for corrected question. |
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Go to Google image search, type in "tits" and you'll have all the partial nudity you could ever possibly desire. |
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yeah, i already edited before you posted... I realized my error as soon as I hit submit.
Do you know the answer to the question? RR |
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Shouldn't we be expecting a visit from Picard and Ryker soon? The Federation tracks, records, and initiates contact with life forms as soon as they register a warp signature for the first time.
all you trekkies know damn well what I'm talking about! |
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Exactly. You can't travel so fast that you arrive before you leave. People who think that are idiots. You can instantly appear someplace, but you can't go faster than that. And many people forget that light-speed travel IS NOT instantaneous; the nearest star to us is several light-years away. That's HOW MANY YEARS IT TAKES FOR LIGHT TO TRAVEL THAT DISTANCE. So what these scientists are claiming to have done is send photons (you know, light particles) 'instantaneously' from one place to another over a distance of three feet? I did that this morning when I flipped on the light. Whoop-de-fucking-shit. This isn't breaking the light-speed barrier any more than making an atom imitate another atom is teleportation. They're just trying to sound like they're onto some real Star Trek type shit so they can get more funding and impressive the sheeple. |
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I have no idea why but basically the faster one travels the slower time passes for him. Now there isn't a noticeable difference for humans unless you can attain speeds close to the speed of light, which we can't. One of the reasons we'll never reach the speed of light is time will get infinately slower as you approach c, like an asymptote for a parabola. |
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One hour would pass for an outside observer. Some fraction of one hour would pass for you. You in the ship would experience less time than someone who remained on Earth. You do not go back in time, you just don't go forward as quickly. |
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According to the theory, for an observer in motion, time/event passage slows as velocity increases for all other objects not moving along w/ said observer, to the point of becoming static right at the speed of light (SoL). For observer velocity > SoL, time/event passage reverses for said static objects relative to the observer, such that he/she could theoretically move backwards along the timeline for those objects. That's the theory, anyway. The article doesn't say how they energized the microwave protons to achieve velocity > SoL, but it's definitely groundbreaking stuff if true. |
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