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Posted: 10/10/2007 4:26:45 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/10/2007 4:29:00 AM EST by 95thFoot]
Wow...lots of issues here. Of course, Germany's self-loathing and consequent pleasure-seeking lifestyle since WW2 have led to a negative birthrate. Germany's dying out....

Society | 10.09.2007
German TV Sacks Talk Show Host for Praising Nazi Family Politics www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,2776881,00.html


Eva Herman, herself a professional, thinks women are better suited for staying at home

Germany's public broadcaster ARD fired its well-known talk show host and controversial book author Eva Herman after she praised Nazi family politics. Herman said on Monday her statements were taken out of context.

"Mrs. Herman's authorial activities are in our view no longer compatible with her role as a television news reader and talk show host," said Volker Herres, program director for German public network ARD's northern division Norddeutscher Rundfunk (NDR), in a statement on the network's Web site.

He also said that some guests had canceled their appearances on Herman's talk show in response to her public statements on motherhood.


Women in Nazi Germany received monetary incentives and medals for child-bearing

Herman, 48, who already ruffled feathers last year by arguing that women should raise children rather than pursue careers of their own, was quoted by the media as speaking in glowing terms about the family values that were nurtured in the Nazi era.

"It was a gruesome time with a totally crazy and highly dangerous leader who led the Germans into ruin as we all know," Herman said."But there was at the time also something good, and that is the values, that is the children, that is the families, that is a togetherness -- it was all abolished, there was nothing left."

Herman's new book "The Noah's Ark Principle: Why We Must Save the Family" (available in German) is a follow-up to her 2006 bestseller "The Eva Principle: For a New Femininity."

In both books, Herman openly discredits the merits of emancipation and mourns the loss of traditional gender roles that assigned women to the safe and comforting spot by the kitchen stove.

Motherhood crusade


Many women juggle their careers with obligations at home

Herman told Bild newspaper on Monday that she didn't understand why there was so much commotion about her views.

"I expressly distanced myself from the 'Third Reich' at several points," Herman said. "One has to put my statement into its overall context. This isn't about Hitler's values, but about basic human values, which were abused in the 'Third Reich' and later abolished."

By praising the Third Reich family values, however, Herman managed to raise the scandal bar to unprecedented heights.

While it is true that the Nazis offered incentives to child-bearing women, their family policies were an integral part of their racist ideology whose goal was the creation of a master race.

"Frau Herman should know that what characterized the Third Reich wasn't how mothers were treated, because they were just meant to produce cannon fodder," author and Holocaust survivor Ralph Giordano told Bild.

"What characterized it was the gas chambers."

Preaching, not practicing


For almost two decades, Herman was one of Germany's most popular news presenters

Married for the fourth time, having one child and -- until now -- a stellar television career that included 18 years of hosting Germany's premiere TV news show Tageschau -- Eva Herman was an unlikely candidate for a champion of antiquated gender roles.

She proved, however, that one doesn't have to practice what one preaches and that a successful career woman can tell other women that what they really want is to keep quiet and cook.

"In Eva Herman's case, even those of us who are women's rights activists want her to return home to her kitchen stove," said Renate Künast, a prominent member of the opposition Green party.

It is unlikely, however, that Herman, who was often voted in the past as Germany's favorite news presenter, will get a chance to become a stay-at-home mom that she never was. As a proponent of an ultra-conservative, pre-feminist fantasy world in which marriage, obedience and motherhood are considered the ultimate forms of self-fulfillment, she seems busier than ever.

"Frau Herman is free to carry on her 'motherhood crusade,' but this is no longer compatible with her role as an NDR TV presenter," Herres said.


Link Posted: 10/10/2007 4:35:07 AM EST
Ich wuerde es schlagen.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 4:38:14 AM EST
Can we fire some US journalists for praising communist family politics? Like nearly all of them?
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 4:39:58 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/10/2007 4:41:36 AM EST by Rodent]
Everyone wants freedom of speech for themselves, but not for others. Once someone says the "N" word - either of them - all logic flies out the window.

Our library removed Huckleberry Finn because of "Nigger Jim". I saw a historical marker in Missouri with his name ground off.

Hitler was in many ways a genius, at least until he descended into madness. If he had died in 1939, he'd have gone done in history as a great man.

If everything the Nazi's did was bad, why aren't Volkswagens illegal?




Originally Posted By crurifragium:
Ich wuerde es schlagen.


ETA: Mir auch.



Link Posted: 10/10/2007 4:44:45 AM EST
How exactly did she praise Nazi policies?
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 4:46:32 AM EST

Originally Posted By Rodent:
Everyone wants freedom of speech for themselves, but not for others. Once someone says the "N" word - either of them - all logic flies out the window.

Our library removed Huckleberry Finn because of "Nigger Jim". I saw a historical marker in Missouri with his name ground off.

Hitler was in many ways a genius, at least until he descended into madness. If he had died in 1939, he'd have gone done in history as a great man.

If everything the Nazi's did was bad, why aren't Volkswagens illegal?




Originally Posted By crurifragium:
Ich wuerde es schlagen.


ETA: Mir Ich auch.





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Link Posted: 10/10/2007 4:49:16 AM EST

Originally Posted By 95thFoot:

Originally Posted By Rodent:
Everyone wants freedom of speech for themselves, but not for others. Once someone says the "N" word - either of them - all logic flies out the window.

Our library removed Huckleberry Finn because of "Nigger Jim". I saw a historical marker in Missouri with his name ground off.

Hitler was in many ways a genius, at least until he descended into madness. If he had died in 1939, he'd have gone done in history as a great man.

If everything the Nazi's did was bad, why aren't Volkswagens illegal?




Originally Posted By crurifragium:
Ich wuerde es schlagen.


ETA: Mir Ich auch.





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Sorry, I only got "C's" in German because I sat behind Missy Salmon.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 4:57:21 AM EST

"Frau Herman is free to carry on her 'motherhood crusade,'from the comfort of her kitchen, which will be easier now that she's unemployed, but this is no longer compatible with her role as an NDR TV presenter, " Herres said.


fixed. LOL,
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 5:03:10 AM EST
Been married four times?

Bet you she keeps a leather outfit studded with little Swastikas in her closet for special occasions.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 5:12:39 AM EST
Dang. She's not bad for 48.

Ich Wil!

-K
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 5:14:50 AM EST
She praises staying at home and having kids
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 5:25:38 AM EST
The idea of Germans, or Europeans in general, having children is offensive, with fascist and National Socialist undertones. Don't they know it's their duty to embrace extinction?
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 5:28:45 AM EST

Originally Posted By Special-K:
Dang. She's not bad for 48.

Ich Wil!

-K

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