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Posted: 8/20/2004 6:01:23 PM EDT
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2.00 a gal
God damn it Bush better do something or I will go Kerry ------------ the prick. He is riding around on the tax payers bucks -- I am paying for mine............  And the ASSHOLES WHO SAY INVEST IN GAS CAN KISS MY ASS. I need cheap gas, not investments. |
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Posted: 8/20/2004 6:35:27 PM EDT
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The gas and oil markets are somewhat different. If there is more supply than demand for gas then the price will drop. Right now oil is held up by speculation. Might want to consider going short on oil soon.
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Posted: 8/20/2004 6:36:34 PM EDT
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$1.87 Loudoun County VA
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Posted: 8/20/2004 6:38:05 PM EDT
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In Bay Area it was $2.39 for 87 octaine a week ago. Now it's $2.25. This is Chevron. Arco is $2.07.
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Posted: 8/20/2004 6:38:43 PM EDT
[#5]
1.66 today. Up from 1.53 last week.
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Posted: 8/20/2004 6:39:46 PM EDT
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$1.69 for gas or Diesel in Augusta GA (all over GA really, I have done a lot of driving this week).
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Posted: 8/20/2004 6:42:30 PM EDT
[#7]
I got gas cheaper then you, haha. |
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Posted: 8/20/2004 6:42:57 PM EDT
[#8]
Great logic. 
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Posted: 8/21/2004 11:05:34 AM EDT
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Regular $1.84 today in northern NJ.
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Posted: 8/21/2004 11:09:27 AM EDT
[#10]
$1.98 at Arco here in San Diego.
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Posted: 8/21/2004 11:09:28 AM EDT
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Last week I was driving the van through some hole south east of Atlanta, and got diesel for $1.55 a gal! Fortunately I get reimbursed for all of my diesel, and don't drive my own cars for business that often right now. Edited to add: Gas prices are the reason I am ging to be working on that Neoan I mentioned a while back, when I go back on the road in a personal vehicle, that thing is dirt cheap to keep out there. |
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Posted: 8/21/2004 11:10:10 AM EDT
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Since when is the Executive Branch responsible for low gas prices?  |
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Posted: 8/21/2004 11:12:21 AM EDT
[#13]
Right around $1.85 here... [Seattle Suburbia]
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Posted: 8/21/2004 11:13:16 AM EDT
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If GWB were worth a chit he would be personally paying to fill my vehicle, John Kerry promised that if he is elected gas will be free, as well as all other commodities (that is the way things work in communist countries right?). The only thing I am not going to like about Kerry being president is that I own my home, and it is paid off, so I will probably be jailed for being an opportunist, capitalist pig. |
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Posted: 8/21/2004 11:20:05 AM EDT
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My guess is that it's Chinese demand for petroleum fuels for factories and electricity, but not gasoline fuel for autos that explains the rise in crude oil futures but not unleaded futures.
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Posted: 8/21/2004 11:42:09 AM EDT
[#16]
And what will Kerry do to make you happy?
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Posted: 8/21/2004 11:44:41 AM EDT
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$1.91 for regular.
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Posted: 8/21/2004 11:45:39 AM EDT
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Today an oil man expert said oil was going to go for 50.00 a barrel - he said you could drill for oil in your back yard for that. He said oil from off shore rigs could sell at 14.00 a barrel to break even He said this is nuts and is just oil company greed. Logic be damned -- I need cheap gas -- I need it more than anything - this causes everything to go up in price Food medicine everyfucking thing We need cheap gas we need gas at cheap prices -- time for a revolt maybe wait till this winter when your paying for fuel oil to keep your family warm ----------- can you say Boston Tea Party |
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Posted: 8/21/2004 11:47:08 AM EDT
[#19]
Right....it's Bush's fault for high gas prices
***Disclaimer*** I take no credit for an possible speeling mestackes in this post. They are all the responcibelity of Gorge W Boosh. |
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Posted: 8/21/2004 11:49:56 AM EDT
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And before the -- gas is more in Europe crowd chimes in --- this ain't Europe so get a clue.
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Posted: 8/21/2004 11:55:18 AM EDT
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$2.03 for 87, which is useless for me, since my car guzzles premium at $2.23. I usually wait around until sunday for the gas sale, which gives me premium at $2.13. Its a wonderful thing!
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Posted: 8/21/2004 12:02:55 PM EDT
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50.00 --- 60.00 is way to much to fill your tanks
I do not care who you are --- this is , has been nuts. Kerry will give us cheap gas maybe ? If he said he would do that, I would vote for him -------- seriously. I need cheap gas to survive. If he had a brain he would take this tact. |
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Posted: 8/21/2004 12:09:31 PM EDT
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How will kerry keep investors from speculating on the price of oil?
oil is expensive because fear and instability of the middle east is putting a price premium on it, nothing kerry can do to stop that. Oil prices will correct naturally eventually when inventory gets to a certain level it will relieve the fear that is in the market. And honestly, $2 a gallon is no huge deal, quit yer bitching. Not even close to highs adjusted for inflation. Nothing to worry about. Plus, the longer oil prices stay in the $40-50 range, the more incentive there is for exploration in north america and other more stable regions, which reduces our reliance on middle east oil, which lowers the fear and instability premium on oil, which will lower the price eventually. |
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Posted: 8/21/2004 12:16:34 PM EDT
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I don't get it. If the current war was about oil, shouldn't gas prices be at an all time low? I going to have a bad day if my liberal friends lied to me.
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Posted: 8/21/2004 12:18:00 PM EDT
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Filled up the cars and about another 20 gals in gas cans for $1.949. Today when I went past the same place it was $2.049. The lowest I got it for so far this year was $1.759
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Posted: 8/21/2004 12:18:04 PM EDT
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You have been brainwashed by the oil men ----------- sad Hell lets pay 5.00 a gallon, they deserve it. COC prevents me from telling you what I think of your statement. What can Kerry do ----------- a way lot you ****s*** ------ a way lot. I would be willing to pay 50.00 for a bottle of catsup - I can do without that, gas I need. Get a clue |
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Posted: 8/21/2004 12:23:51 PM EDT
[#27]
$1.83 in Everett, WA. At least it no longer costs $100 to fill up my 42 gallon gas tank.
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Posted: 8/21/2004 12:32:03 PM EDT
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How will kerry keep investors from speculating on the price of oil?
During the gas crunch with Clinton -- I saw more Haliberton and Slumberjay oil wells being drilled than I ever saw in my life. They were on the road 24/7. There were oil field jobs easy to get during this gas crunch all I have seen is Bush and his buds getting fatter and fatter. Incentives for domestic oil production - what is so hard about seeing that ? Ammo is made from petroleum by products wait till it increases the price for ammo till it is prohibitively expensive -- them maybe someone here will care. Christ -- the Bush can do no wrong crowd here makes me ill sometimes. wake up people your sitting in front of a computer ----- do some research , besides just reading the drivel being spewed here at times. |
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Posted: 8/21/2004 3:58:35 PM EDT
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I am no expert, I was listing to a radio show on 77WABC (NY station). The availability of crude oil is not the problem. It is the ability to refine the crude oil. When was the last time a new refinery was built it the US the 1970s? Because of all the FUCKING tree hugging hippies pressed for strict environmental laws has made it nearly impossible for a oil company to build a new refinery that will turn a profit. There is so much red tape, environmental impact studies etc, it will take years for a shovel to break the ground.
The host on the radio show also mentioned that there is too broad of a selection of gas because cretin states have different requirements for the types of gas, Kalifornia comes to mind. If there is a shortage in the western US no eastern US refineries will produce the gas needed because it would not be profitable to produce and transport it across the country. If the types of gas were the same through out the county it will help with the demand and hopefully make the prices lower. Also keep in mind that over the past 10-15 years the consumption of gas has skyrocketed with popularity of SUVs and there has been no increase in our ability to add capacity to refine fuels in the US By saying that this is Bush’s fault or Kerry will lower the price of gas is total BS. Laws need to be changed so that oil companies can build more refineries which will allow a larger supply of gas in the US, which in turn will lower the price of gas. We also need to stop being dependent on foreign oil. If Kerry does win the election do people think that everything will change magicly over night?  That is my $.02. |
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Posted: 8/21/2004 4:31:16 PM EDT
[#30]
Your logical and informed method of selecting the leader of our Nation has won me over. I'm voting Kerry. Regards, Mild Bill |
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Posted: 8/21/2004 4:48:44 PM EDT
[#31]
Kerry says this is how you get cheap gas
For shits and giggles I e mailed Kerry HQ an hour latter I got this makes, sense to me . Or am wrong ? I e mailed Bush HQ asking how we get cheap gas --- and this is what I got from them Pres. Bush's feeling on the high price of gas |
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Posted: 8/21/2004 5:06:11 PM EDT
[#32]
a gallon is around 7 dollars over here!
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Posted: 8/21/2004 5:07:21 PM EDT
[#33]
And 3/4 of that is tax -- or am I wrong? |
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Posted: 8/21/2004 5:08:00 PM EDT
[#34]
1.78 last time I filled up. Omaha, Nebraska
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Posted: 8/21/2004 5:19:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/21/2004 5:32:21 PM EDT
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I saw in the Wall Street Journal this week that gas prices are highest in Hawaii and California. Hawaii being an island the shipping is more expensive and the local taxes are higher to boot. California has high gas prices due to the boutique gas requirements of the CARB (California Air Resources Board) which means gasoline unique to California. If we could have a national standard gasoline, instead of different formulations for: city vs. rural locations, state to state, and even mountain regions have a different gas formulation. For example in my area there are summer and winter blends and a blend specifically for the Chicago area. Further, no new refinery has been built in the entire USA in 30 YEARS. MOST OF THIS can be blamed on the eco-freaks and the left wing democrats. If we could drill at ANWAR in Alaska (even though the oil won't come online for a decade, the sooner we start the better), and in coastal areas around Florida, we would have higher supply that would lower gas prices. It must be said that the enviro groups LOVE high gas prices. They think it is the best way to reduce demand. If you'll recall, they have consistently called for a 50 cent per gallon gas tax. Cyanide, that Kerry link is laughable, it has no specifics, just promises. |
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Posted: 8/21/2004 5:36:09 PM EDT
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Well, lets just take a look at the FACT that Kerry wants to tack on a $.50 PER GALLON gasoline tax!!!!!!!!!
Fuck more taxes. I'm voting with my wallet. |
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Posted: 8/21/2004 5:38:08 PM EDT
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Two problems... 1) Our spike in gas prices had more to do with refinery capacity. Improve that, and eliminate the 50 zillion special environmentally 'friendly' grades of gas and the price would fall. 2) WTF makes you think increasing production of OUR oil is a good thing? I'd rather bleed the Middle East dry first, then use ours. The sooner those f@@kers have no money left, the better. Think long-term. |
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Posted: 8/21/2004 5:40:46 PM EDT
[#39]
Wholesale oil prices are arount $US1.20. 83% of the price is tax, storage, transport and markup. |
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Posted: 8/21/2004 5:41:06 PM EDT
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Two of our three vehicles use 93 octane. It's about $2.08/gal. I believe regular is $1.83/gal. |
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Posted: 8/21/2004 5:46:53 PM EDT
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The last thing I will say is the soon to be $50 a barrel oil has almost nothing to do with supply, but is an emotional response to the possibility of supply disruption. No request for oil is going unfilled, nor has it.
If Kerry is elected, and the market movers/shakers feel he will cause more unrest by jerking troops out, the price will increase. |
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Posted: 8/21/2004 5:55:08 PM EDT
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) Our spike in gas prices had more to do with refinery capacity. Improve that, and eliminate the 50 zillion special environmentally 'friendly' grades of gas and the price would fall
Every time we have this discussion people say that. What incentive do they have to build refineries ?? If a Pres. manipulated the system through incentives, gas producers would be at each others throat to be first to build refineries . So why don't that happen ??? why ? If Ca wants clean gas let them pay for it -- refine it there in that muddled state. Don't tell me I have to suffer for those fools. Or are they afraid someone --- read that Honda - will come up with an alternative fueled vehicle and they will be screwed ? |
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Posted: 8/21/2004 5:58:29 PM EDT
[#43]
We are going to see at least $65.00 a barrel oil within three months. Short? Not me. |
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Posted: 8/21/2004 6:00:27 PM EDT
[#44]
Not if Russia gets it act together and starts exporting in quantities. |
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Posted: 8/21/2004 6:01:36 PM EDT
[#45]
$1.64 here for Reg.
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Posted: 8/21/2004 6:03:11 PM EDT
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You think thats how it works? |
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Posted: 8/21/2004 6:05:31 PM EDT
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Broke my word not to say more Two points: 1) They keep saying it because it is true. It isn't an oil production problem. Kerry is full of shit if he thinks it is. 2) BS environmental laws supported by Kerry are the reason why there are no new refineries. That and huge frigging lawsuits by Edward-like liability lawyers. So your plan to vote Kerry in won't do you any good. Sorry. But don't do something stupid like vote for Kerry because it won't help. |
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Posted: 8/21/2004 6:06:18 PM EDT
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$1.63 - regular - Austin, Texas - if you look around----Savage1
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Posted: 8/21/2004 6:10:56 PM EDT
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Not sure , but we are hoping for different things-- you for stock profits me for reasonable priced gas. Frankly it would give me a charge if all those that were trying to make a killing on oil futures got creamed. It is almost self defeating in nature -- high fuel prices translate into higher prices for everything -- everything. |
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Posted: 8/21/2004 6:44:37 PM EDT
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You need to re-think what oil "experts" you listen to. That guy sounds like a fool. This is coming from someone who works in the oil industry, as has most of his family. The town I live in would not exist if not for the oil business. And, BTW, if anyone thiks the price of oil will go down if we drill in the US more, is a fool. The cost of drilling a well here and producing and shipping the crude is outrageous when compared to foriegn oil. |
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