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Posted: 2/17/2017 7:36:19 PM EDT
Lusted for one for years and found this in a pawn shop:

Nice parkerizing, no import marks, functions soundly.


The barrel is my concern. The shop owner said a guy came in and gaged it a TE3 and an ME5. It's a Winchester barrel as it's proof stamped Oval -PW.


I couldn't contain my Garand boner and paid 900.00 for it anyway. Question is, how fucked is the barrel with those gage tests?
Link Posted: 2/17/2017 7:39:39 PM EDT
[#1]
If you have a 30 odd 6 round stick the bullet in the muzzle and let's see a picture of that
Link Posted: 2/17/2017 7:46:49 PM EDT
[#2]
A throat erosion of 3 is low. TE is about 1,000rds per graduation so you have lots of life before you get to the field-reject of a 7 and a reject of a 10. However, the muzzle reading of 5 is very loose and will probably lead to some open groups.

ETA - Looks like a replacement stock and a reparked rifle.  Any import marks?
Link Posted: 2/17/2017 7:48:55 PM EDT
[#3]
I had a Blue Sky imported M1 Garand years ago, the barrel gauged 8 on the T/E and the muzzle gauge dropped right in.

Barrel was toast, but still smacked minute of soda can out to 150 yards.

See how well your original barrel shoots before you spend the money.

If you need a barrel, either the CMP or Springfield Armory do a good job for a reasonable price. Or this is just an excuse to switch it from 30-06 to 308 Winchester
Link Posted: 2/17/2017 7:49:11 PM EDT
[#4]
At $900 you stole that fucker. Shoot it and enjoy it, if it's a 3 it has life left in it.

If/when I shoot my H&R barrel out I'm getting a .308 barrel put on it.
Link Posted: 2/17/2017 7:50:31 PM EDT
[#5]
Good score!
Link Posted: 2/17/2017 7:52:20 PM EDT
[#6]
I hate you OP.

Link Posted: 2/17/2017 7:52:35 PM EDT
[#7]
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A throat erosion of 3 is low. TE is about 1,000rds per graduation so you have lots of life before you get to the field-reject of a 7 and a reject of a 10. However, the muzzle reading of 5 is very loose and will probably lead to some open groups.

ETA - Looks like a replacement stock and a reparked rifle.  Any import marks?
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Agreed on the repark.
Link Posted: 2/17/2017 7:57:11 PM EDT
[#8]
My understanding is barrels were replaced when TE gauged 5 or above.  

The philosophy behind that, was that even though TE at 5 was perfectly serviceable, a rifle that deployed forward with that kind of wear wouldn't last long due to accelerated wear under combat conditions.

It was a management decision to optimize utility of the rifle under operational conditions, not because the barrel was worn out at that point.

Be advised, I've heard of barrels that shot just fine when they gauged at 9 for TE!
Link Posted: 2/17/2017 8:12:28 PM EDT
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A throat erosion of 3 is low. TE is about 1,000rds per graduation so you have lots of life before you get to the field-reject of a 7 and a reject of a 10. However, the muzzle reading of 5 is very loose and will probably lead to some open groups.

ETA - Looks like a replacement stock and a reparked rifle.  Any import marks?
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I scoured the rifle, and no import marks, one of the reasons I threw down on it. Some parts are marked WRA, I don't know what that means.
The stock has these stamps:

Link Posted: 2/17/2017 8:18:54 PM EDT
[#10]
That's a nice looking Garand. It appears to have its original barrel

which is a plus. With the replacement stock and refinished parts it

looks like it might have gone through a overhaul in the 60's. If you

remove the receiver from the stock you may see electro pencil writing

on the receiver legs which would indicate where it was overhauled.
Link Posted: 2/17/2017 8:22:36 PM EDT
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I scoured the rifle, and no import marks, one of the reasons I threw down on it. Some parts are marked WRA, I don't know what that means.
The stock has these stamps:
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I thought Winchester Repeating Arms but I also hit on this

WRA
Link Posted: 2/17/2017 8:30:03 PM EDT
[#12]
WRA means winchester.
Link Posted: 2/17/2017 8:33:11 PM EDT
[#13]
FWIW, all Winchester M1s were built during WWII.  

The stock looks like it's a birch replacement, the eagle and stars on the left side are a DoD acceptance stamp.  The "P" inside the circle was stamped into the wood after the rifle survived a proof round fired through it-something done at the factory and then after rebarrel.  Not sure if the barrel was proof fired again after rebuild when the original barrel was not replaced.
Link Posted: 2/17/2017 8:49:56 PM EDT
[#14]
More info the rifle:




Link Posted: 2/17/2017 8:59:18 PM EDT
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More info the rifle:
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You can coax some more accuracy out of a worn barrel with 168gr SMK handloads. Brand new barrels shoot well with 147 - 150gr bullets.
Your M1 could have been someone's pride and joy, pawned by an angry wife.
Link Posted: 2/17/2017 9:02:33 PM EDT
[#16]
That is a nice SA rebuild.  I like it.
Link Posted: 2/17/2017 9:07:06 PM EDT
[#17]
Nice find and a steal.

The rifle looks to have the original barrel. The trigger group is made by Harrington and Richardson. The op rod is a national match and desirable to some. By the markings on the receiver leg it was aresenal rebuilt in the old Springfield Armory in 1965. The parkerizing is not original but that doesn't matter.

I would guess this was a CMP service grade Winchester. Congrats!  She is gorgeous. And she was built during the war did she see action? Nobody knows but in any event you have a wonderful example of American ingenuity and exceptionalism. The barrel is fine. Shoot and enjoy it.

ETA
That bolt is worth a pretty penny to the tractor gun collectors.
Link Posted: 2/17/2017 9:09:59 PM EDT
[#18]
Agree with the above.  There used to be a serial database and I was able to find that my 1942 Garand passed through Okinawa on the way home in 1946.  
Link Posted: 2/17/2017 9:11:40 PM EDT
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Agree with the above.  There used to be a serial database and I was able to find that my 1942 Garand passed through Okinawa on the way home in 1946.  
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The old garand collector board died. It was a great rescource.
Link Posted: 2/17/2017 10:01:51 PM EDT
[#20]
Nice rifle!

That's a nice strong heel stamp, mine isn't that deep.
Link Posted: 2/17/2017 10:29:27 PM EDT
[#21]
Great deal at $900. Lots of high value parts on it too.  Now order up some proper .30-06 ammo from the CMP and shoot the shit out of it!
Link Posted: 2/18/2017 8:12:50 AM EDT
[#22]
Rifle was rebuilt atleast once, last time by Springfirld 10/1965
Mixmaster WRA Garands sell in the $1100 range
Link Posted: 2/18/2017 8:42:59 AM EDT
[#23]
Nice find!  I'm jelly.
Link Posted: 2/18/2017 8:57:00 AM EDT
[#24]
International Harvester bolt and Harrington Richardson trigger group. The etching pencil mark indicates a Springfield rebuild. I'm sure it's just fine but I'd check the headspace before firing.

Great find
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