http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/12/08/glazov-castros-torture-american-pows-vietnam-untold-story/

Wouldn't surprise me a bit.

Fuck all the leftists for eulogizing that asshole like he was a great leader.

Castro was a piece of shit it's not really a new revelation.

For that matter all the American soldiers WW2 who were captured by the Russians and died in their custody/slavery...these were men who were sent to tend the American equipment
given the Soviets to fight the Germans...
During the Korean War both the Chinese and Russians tortured US POWs some said to have disappeared into Soviet Labor Camps....as was said of US MIA-POWs during Vietnam
Abandoned by us for political expediency and favors. eg John Kerry

Why would US personnel be POWs to the soviets in WW2?

Why were many/most returning Soviet soldiers sent to the Gulag?   Because Russians.  Why do you think everyone hates the Russians?*  It's because this is the kind of shit they pull.

*By Russians I mean the government and their army of bureaucrats/technocrats.

Cuban pilots also flew combat missions for North Vietnam.  They carried special packets that included a small Cuban flag for use if they got shot down.  They didn't want the NVA or VC to think they were American.

You did not answer my question at all or any way.

The soviets helped send b29 crews from the Pacific theater to the allies in Europe.  

I wouldn't put anything past Stalin, but I've never heard that claim before. Source?

It did happen.
My grandfather in law was a late WWII vet, he was in Germany right at the very end of the war.
Basically the Russians ran shit in many areas, if you were in the wrong place, didn't have the correct paperwork etc, you were taken prisoner. Some guys just straight up disappeared.
They were not our "allies" in the truest sense, they were a country that hated us almost as much as the Germans. We were allies of convenience to them.

That and the rape/murder/looting that the Russians engaged in during their occupation of Germany.

That claim is basically laughable.  

How is somebody who was there and relayed this to me laughable?

He also met his Austrian wife there, she described the horrid conditions of living in occupied territory and the things that the Russians did too.

I mean frankly, I don't give a shit if people don't believe me, just passing on what the man told me. He died 3 years ago so I can't relay your call of bullshit to him.

There's a pretty good theory out there that several thousand POW's of ours were never returned by the Soviets after WW2. These being men interned by the German's in Eastern Europe, who were then taken prisoner by the Russians when they "liberated" the camps.

Christ, they imprisoned millions of their own men, as they saw surrender to the Germans as a sign of disloyalty. There's a very good book on the subject, called American Betrayal, IIRC.

Why would  the Soviets our ally take POWs?

As leverage during Post-War negotiations. It's a lot easier to get what you want, if you have 20,000 Americans and 25,000 Commonwealth prisoners to trade. Stalin fucking despised the West, and his ultimate goal was our destruction. We were just the more useful allies when stopping the immediate existential threat to Communism, ie Zee Germans.

You don't know shit, then.

The Soviets were screening the US POWs for anyone with technical skills they thought were valuable; there are several eye-witness accounts written by US POWs who watched other US POWs taken in for "questioning" during their post-"liberation" by the Soviets in Eastern Europe, and those "questioned POWs" were all mysteriously guys who knew things about things like the Norden Bombsight. There was one guy who swore up and down that an acquaintance of his, who'd gone all through the German POW and interrogation system without being found out as someone with technical knowledge that shouldn't have been risked on an actual bomber mission (he was supposedly some sort of expert on radio navigation, and went along to try to diagnose what was going wrong with the systems), and when he was called out by the Soviets, they did so with his full name and technical background as an expert in radio navigation. His suspicion was that the guy's information had been passed on to the Soviets by fellow-travellers or agents here in the US, and when they never saw the radio nav guy again...? Well, do the math. The Soviets later claimed they never had him in custody, and the Germans must have killed him. Despite there being a bunch of guys who were with him when their column of POWs was captured on the move in the confusion of the Eastern Front, and who witnessed said radio navigation guy being taken in by men they identified as NKVD agents.

US service members vanished in large numbers during the German withdrawal from Poland and Eastern Germany. Some, no doubt, wound up dead in a ditch and unidentified. Others almost certainly wound up in Soviet custody, and never returned. You look at their names and service records, and there's a common thread throughout--They all knew things that the Soviets wanted to know about, like radio navigation.

There are a couple of books out there that document this stuff, although it is an area of historical research that most don't want to look into. The left doesn't want to admit that their heroes, the Soviets, were a bunch of bastards, and the right doesn't want to admit that they basically abandoned a bunch of our guys to the commies.

You also had a lot of "mysterious disappearances" during the early days of the occupation and Cold War. Austria was particularly bad for that--I've seen a couple of write-ups by people whose relatives vanished during that period, and it makes for chilling reading. There was a woman near Tacoma whose brother was last seen by US forces at a Soviet checkpoint up on the Austrian-German border where their occupation area was, and his bloodstained jeep was found out in a nearby forest. The Soviets claimed he was a victim of black-marketers he was supposedly out dealing with, but there were reports that he'd been taken into Soviet custody, and seen by various Czech dissidents who were also prisoners inside the Soviet prison system there in Czechoslovakia. One of them managed to get out, and eventually brought her word that her brother was still alive as late as 1953, when he'd supposedly been killed in 1947. She claimed that US Army counterintelligence agents told her that they knew something was "off", but since they couldn't prove anything...

Given the things provably done by their less-competent and crazier proteges, the North Koreans, I would not be a bit damn surprised if all these supposedly apocryphal stories don't have a solid basis in reality. Russian intelligence is smart enough, and secretive enough not to leave the obvious trails left by the North Koreans.

Read Alexander Dolgun's book An American in the Gulag.

The Cold War started during WW2, it's not laughable at all.

Legally, in the Pacific, Japan and Russia had a neutrality agreement.

Any US military personnel from the Pacific Theater, engaged in combat against the Empire of Japan, who found themselves in the Soviet Union, could be interred.  (Like British and German Pilots were held in Ireland, or pilots from Germany and the Western Allies were held in Switzerland, who also, was nominally neutral).

There was also speculation at the highest levels that US Pow's in Korea were sent to the USSR for intelligence gathering purposes.

After the fall of the USSR, this was peridoically reported in the media:

http://www.nytimes.com/1996/07/19/world/decades-later-tales-of-americans-in-soviet-jails.html

Numbering in the thousands, the list of Americans sent to Soviet labor camps is long and varied.They include left-wing Americans who emigrated to the Soviet Union in the 1930's only to be arrested as spies during Stalin's xenophobic sweeps; hundreds of dual nationals sent to Siberian labor camps after Stalin annexed Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia in 1940; about 500 American military prisoners kept after World War II by Stalin as bargaining chips; about 30 F-86 pilots and crewmen captured during the Korean War and transferred to the Soviet Union in a secret aircraft industry intelligence operation; and as many as 100 American airmen who survived downings of spy planes over Soviet territory during the cold war.

Either you are trolling or incapable of being educated.  Either way *click*.

As an aside, the father of a good friend of mine survived capture by the Norks for several years.  I wonder if he has been able to forgive them for the horrific treatment.  He was a personal assistant of the Catholic priest who was also captured and who cared for the other prisoners until his death in captivity.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/1996/07/19/world/decades-later-tales-of-americans-in-soviet-jails.html

I have no doubt there were many who fell through the cracks...and never any political will at the highest levels to play brinksmanship over the issue.

News reported Gambian, Tanzania and Palestinian leaders mourned his death along with North Korea.http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2016/11/485_219119.html

We sold out entire nations in our negotiations with the Soviets, so a few thousand MIA's probably didn't seem like much to them. It was a theme often repeated throughout the Cold War. My dad was ASA in Korea, as a Russian 'terp, and he had some scary stories about what they heard doing comm intercepts.

B29 crews that crash landed in Soviet territory prior to Stalin's declaration of war against Japan were indeed held by the Soviets. They also captured three intact B29s to copy.

You think that people who used to spit on our military personnel returning from Vietnam would have a change of position to hear that Castro did nasty shit to them?

Hero of Obama and that princess of Canada.

The ex's father was US Army in WW2, he spent a month locked up by the Russians.  Nothing to eat but potato soup,  Nobody in the family remembered any details.

The fuck?

They conscripted our aircrews as infantry, forced them into the eastern front, and then tried to execute them when they were repatriated and tried to leave the USSR.

The Russians/Soviets DO NOT KNOW how to do "ally."

I have no doubt US servicemen were detained by the Russians post-war.  Relations between our countries deteriorated quickly.  But the poster I quoted made a specific claim about US soldiers who were sent to Russia to assist with Lend-Lease equipment during the war.  That's a whole other ball of wax.

John Birch

Dad (B-17 copilot) was a POW at Stalg Luft 3 prior to being "liberated" by the Red Army. He died when I was 6 so I never heard a lot of the details. He never held a grudge against the Germans, but he hated the Russians until the day he died.

John McCain has stated in the past that the worst of his torturers was a Cuban.

I read the OP's link....our former prime minister, Pierre Trudeau was a very close friend of Fidel Castro. Now his son Justin, our present prime minister, is continuing the leftist ideology of his father. I can't understand why people idolize these bags of schit. RIP to the poor souls who were tortured and starved to death by those monsters.

They're a gang of Late Middle Age Asian barbarians with nukes.

Yes, Pierre seemed to share a lot with Castro. Such as his wife...

Context????

Army officer killed by Communists at the end of WW2.

Ive been doing a bunch of reading about the bomb group my grandfather served in (15th AF)

Lots of stories from vets who ditched behind Russian lines, I never heard on good experience about the Russians, in one instance they had some American fliers on a train headed west to the front to fight in their army, the fliers escaped by jumping off their train and hopping another headed east and took refuge in an British embassy in Budapest.

When Russian forces captured German POW camps full of Americans they generally left them alone, but when they picked up American downed air crews their treatment was less than stellar.

I remember one of the B25's from The Doolittle Raid landed in Russia and the crew was "interned".  They later escaped.

So Russia had a neutrality agreement with Japan, and then declared war on Japan.  Typical Russian behavior. 

We should have done the same to any Russian, Cuban or Warsaw Pact troops we captured in any action..................rumor has it that we did kill a few in Vietnam

In response to one of the earlier posts.....
Literally thousands of US & RAF aircrew who were POWs held in eastern Europe, were "liberated" by the Red Army as they marched west....the "liberated" POWs were marched to the east, away from combat zones, never to be heard from again.
Apparently Truman knew, but didn't desire going to war over them.

Never heard of this, thanks for posting.

Nope I know full well how bad they are and this latest election and the reaction of the hardest core lefties my wife is "friends" with on Facebook has helped open her eyes to just how true my sig line is.  The first time she saw it she thought it was way over the top.  Now she sees just how rabid and hate filled some of them are.

As far as the NPR reporters who were spouting off about all the great things Castro did for Cubans and how he did a few bad things with the best of intentions those leftist assholes need to die of ass cancer.

https://www.amazon.com/Soldiers-Misfortune-Washingtons-Betrayal-American/dp/0915765837?tag=vglnk-c102-20

Funny, I bought this book do to members suggestions here on GD, on an older thread. Thought that it was common knowledge on this forum that Americans were kept by the Sov's and sold out by our government.

Boris Yeltsen in the early 1990's made a big deal about giving an accounting for Americans held by the Soviets, but nothing came of it.

Back to the book, easy read that is very disturbing, especially the WWII P.O.W.'s that were "liberated" by the Russians, then marched East to never been heard from again, thinking the Russians were our Allies.  Many men trusted their gut feelings and ran off and hid from the Russians, eventually making it back to American lines.

In late 1945, 22-year-old American-born Noble was arrested together with his father by Soviet occupation forces in Dresden, Germany and incarcerated in a former German concentration camp that was then under Soviet control. The arrest came about after a newly appointed local Soviet commissar decided to appropriate the Noble family's  factory and its stocks of quality cameras. A trumped-up allegation of spying against the Soviets was levelled against the two male members of the family.

During his transfer through Russia he saw the English phrase scrawled on a cell wall reading "I am sick and don't expect to live through this - Major Roberts". The inscription was dated in mid-August 1950 and believed to have been written by the American soldier Major Frank A. Roberts who is recorded as missing in action during World War II. Soon afterwards, Noble's journey continued and he was sent to the Vorkuta Gulag, at the northernmost Urals railhead in Siberia.

Noble eventually managed to smuggle out a postcard loosely glued to the back of another prisoner's. The message addressed to a relative in West Germany was passed to his family, who by then had returned to the United States. The postcard was passed to the U.S. State Department who formally requested the Soviet government to release Noble. He was finally released in 1955, together with several American military captives, after the personal intervention culminating with President Dwight D. Eisenhower.

Typical.