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Posted: 9/21/2005 10:22:12 PM EDT
[#1]
Thats wild, they get to ask you about your personal life......and then give you a lie detector test to verify what you said
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Posted: 9/21/2005 10:22:56 PM EDT
[#2]
They can ask anything they want.
As long as it doesnt cross the PC line. sexual preference, race,color ..equal employment crap. My advice. Tell them the notorious 22lr and 38 special routine. Let the polygraph spike...and smile. |
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Posted: 9/21/2005 10:23:52 PM EDT
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Phased plasma rifle in the forty watt range, purchased from a crack dealer in compton for the purpose of "showing those bitches not to mess with me".
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Posted: 9/21/2005 10:39:24 PM EDT
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What can someone learn about my firearms by looking at public record? Is my first assertion correct in that all they know is that it was a "long gun"?
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Posted: 9/21/2005 10:41:57 PM EDT
[#5]
Tell 'em it's none of their fuckin' business.
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Posted: 9/21/2005 10:45:25 PM EDT
[#6]
The answer is yes, they can ask that question and use it as a factor in determining whether or not to hire you.
Just like drug testing -- businesses really have no right inquiring about your personal life, but then again they don't have to give you a job, either. |
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Posted: 9/21/2005 10:45:42 PM EDT
[#7]
Absolutely nada by looking at "Public" records. And it seems like the most irrelevant ? i've ever heard. |
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Posted: 9/21/2005 10:45:45 PM EDT
[#8]
If you want the job, tell em.
Just tell them you are a collector and a shooting enthusiast. You really dont have to tell them the truth that you are preparing for an outbreak of the Zombie virus. |
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Posted: 9/21/2005 10:47:30 PM EDT
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I would never work for someone who felt it necessary to invade my personal life in such manner.
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Posted: 9/21/2005 10:49:52 PM EDT
[#10]
I don't know "how" they can ask that, but...
If I were in your shoes, and definately wanted to be employed by someplace that does that.. I'd sell all of my weapons right now to my parents / brother / close friend for $1. The only gun I'd keep is my personal protection pistol. I could pass the polygraph, then buy them back once I was hired. The longer you do it before your polygraph, the more comfortable you'll be with the though that they aren't your weapons anymore...that way you can pass without a spike. |
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Posted: 9/21/2005 10:57:29 PM EDT
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The questions were asked to screen out the collectors and shooting enthusiasts. Reason why is that the liberals are in charge and they got EEOC hiring practices (affirmative action) and they want to screen out the white, christian, heterosexaul, gunowners, republican types from getting hired. |
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Posted: 9/21/2005 10:59:45 PM EDT
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tell them boat accident or 10/22 and a .38. Thats what I'd say
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Posted: 9/21/2005 11:03:04 PM EDT
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I am betting its to screen out the closet tower candidates more than anything. If they really were bent on like you described, all they would have to do is ask one question. "D you own any guns?" No further questions would be needed. If just being a gun owner is all they need, the other questions are pretty pointless. |
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Posted: 9/21/2005 11:04:06 PM EDT
[#14]
"Collection and Investment" "oh, and for mutant zombies too"
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Posted: 9/21/2005 11:09:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/21/2005 11:10:27 PM EDT
[#16]
...and you don't have to choose to work there. Tell em to Foff. M4-AK You dont wanna work there.
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Posted: 9/21/2005 11:12:25 PM EDT
[#17]
This is a standard question for employment was part of the psych for every police dept. I'm aware of.
And yes it is a negative connotation question along with a few others "are you an evil boogeyman" questions. |
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Posted: 9/21/2005 11:15:16 PM EDT
[#18]
tell the truth!
as your going down the list of your guns start to touch yourself and begin to get aroused. When you are getting to the best weapons pull your hard-on out and blow your wad while talking about the best gun you have. 
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Posted: 9/21/2005 11:16:46 PM EDT
[#19]
Yep. |
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Posted: 9/21/2005 11:19:44 PM EDT
[#20]
If you live in the people's republic of california should this really suprise you? Got rights? It may vary depending on zip code. |
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Posted: 9/21/2005 11:20:01 PM EDT
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I was asked this by the psych folks at Bexar County when I got hired there many years ago. I left it blank and when asked about it I fired it back at them " why?" I then told them I didnt feel the need to disclose this information to them and they were mysteriously okay with it. 
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Posted: 9/21/2005 11:21:54 PM EDT
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Simply put N/A in that box. Pretty simple and if they need to ask you in person then you can ask back why is it of any importance.
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Posted: 9/21/2005 11:22:35 PM EDT
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BTW, I was looking at going into LE until I saw the questions they asked. Fuck 'em, it's not worth it to me, it's not like I need to work in LE - it's not even really my field, I just wanted to springboard my way into IT security, forensics, etc. but if it requires them to crawl up my ass I have better things to do with my time than to fucking explain my legal and constitutional rights to people that should fucking already know. Yeah, I'm irritated. Ironically enough, according to my friend that's a federal LEO he did not have as hard of a time. It's the local departments that want to crawl up your ass as I understand it. |
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Posted: 9/21/2005 11:22:49 PM EDT
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Vague is also good. I was unsure about how many I had or the details of when or why I got them. I have some guns kinda like I have tools in my shed. I don't think about them that much to know specific details. I just like to go shooting on occassion sometimes. 
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Posted: 9/21/2005 11:23:48 PM EDT
[#25]
None of their god damned business and you should politley decline to answer the question. Fuck them you don't need the job that bad,
P.s. I am drunk so I wouldn't take this advice to heart. |
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Posted: 9/21/2005 11:28:59 PM EDT
[#26]
I would. |
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Posted: 9/21/2005 11:29:52 PM EDT
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Any time they start asking questions that don't have a bearing on a "bona fide occupational qualification" they are treading on thin ice. If they ask what you feel is an inappropriate question, you can ask "What does that have to do with the job?" You might not get the job, but when you sue for illegal discrimination they are going to have to show what they made their decisions on and if all it was is the not work-related questions they are going to be up the creek.
First off there is likely no known verifiable negative connection or correllation between between firearms ownership and firefighting. ( I expect that there are plenty of firefighters all over the country that have firearms at home. Depose the Chiefs in a variety of cities where hunting is not anthema. Now if they hire someone of another gender or race that was less qualified you can also claim discrimination there. You hired less qualified candidates on the basis of bogus questions? So were these invalid questions just a screen to cover illegal discrimination, giving you the excuse to hire these less qualified candidates. Can you explain why? |
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Posted: 9/21/2005 11:48:54 PM EDT
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It's a cultural thing. In California, they ask you if you've ever owned a firearm. Everywhere else, they ask you if you've ever molested a child. Both are equally revolting to some, depending, as is the case with defining pornography, on the prevailing "community standards."
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Posted: 9/22/2005 12:04:06 AM EDT
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Just tell 'em there isn't enough room on the form so you're not going to bother filling that part out.
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Posted: 9/22/2005 12:44:20 AM EDT
[#30]
Sounds like a liberal B.S. question. I'd say that I consider it a personal question and along the lines of what church I go to, who I voted for last election, and the ones that will make the libs squirm, my sexual preference and view on abortion.
If you can, turn it around on them and put them on the defensive.  Ask them if they refuse to hire people of a race they don't like, a religion they don't aprove of, or a sexual preference that's not what they'd like. If you do it right, they may just let you skip the question. Worth a try if you want the job that bad.
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Posted: 9/22/2005 2:26:27 AM EDT
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I kinda like the response that the good guy used in "Enemy of the State", when asked about his sexual history/ex-girlfriend. He put them on the defensive by demanding to know about the sex life of questioners (his bosses). After putting them on the spot, he said it was none of his damn business knowing about their sex life, so it's none of their business knowing about his too. I'd expect to not get the job with such a response though. Time to lawyer up.
Maybe have a free consult with a lawyer who is very knowledgeable about employment issues first. May save you a bunch of grief later on. |
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Posted: 9/22/2005 2:30:35 AM EDT
[#32]
Absolutely. Tell them it is none of their business. I think I'd find another dept. ETA: I've never heard of anyone going "Fireman" at work. Now the Post Oficce is another matter |
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Posted: 9/22/2005 2:34:02 AM EDT
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I was going to add that there is generally no "registration" of firearms but then I see you live in "The Peoples Republic of Kalifornistan"-nevermind. Honestly, my advice would be to move to a free state and devote your efforts and tax dollars to a place worth saving.
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