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Posted: 1/29/2017 4:40:19 PM EST
A Buddy bought the top of the line Panamera. 550 hp and 0 to 60 in about 3.4 seconds. He did a couple of speed runs using the launch control mode where you stand on the brake and floor the gas to build up turbo boost. Oh my God! I can understand how people with super fast cars can wipe out and kill themselves.
This one has four wheel drive and tracked straight but things are happening so fast that if something went wrong I wouldn't have time to react. He took it up to 170 mph before he backed off. I would love to own one myself. It sure would make passing on the freeway fun.
Link Posted: 1/29/2017 4:44:40 PM EST
Originally Posted By hummerbk:
A Buddy bought the top of the line Panamera. 550 hp and 0 to 60 in about 3.4 seconds. He did a couple of speed runs using the launch control mode where you stand on the brake and floor the gas to build up turbo boost. Oh my God! I can understand how people with super fast cars can wipe out and kill themselves.
This one has four wheel drive and tracked straight but things are happening so fast that if something went wrong I wouldn't have time to react. He took it up to 170 mph before he backed off. I would love to own one myself. It sure would make passing on the freeway fun.
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And ugly as sin while doing it.
Link Posted: 1/29/2017 4:47:48 PM EST
Two many doors
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Originally Posted By diehippy:
And ugly as sin while doing it.
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I didn't think it looked bad at all. The only way I could begin to justify spending that kind of money is because of the back seat. I do have Grand-kids.
Link Posted: 1/29/2017 4:52:01 PM EST
Too bad it's such an unfortunate looking car... .

(And this is coming from a Porsche owner)
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Originally Posted By hummerbk:


I didn't think it looked bad at all. The only way I could begin to justify spending that kind of money is because of the back seat. I do have Grand-kids.
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911s have back seats that fit slender women and grandchildren... Just sayin.
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Link Posted: 1/29/2017 4:56:05 PM EST
They are awesome cars but one of the ugliest Porsche has produced!
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Originally Posted By Observer:


911s have back seats that fit slender women and grandchildren... Just sayin.
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A "no fat chics" car
Link Posted: 1/29/2017 4:59:51 PM EST
The spoiler deployment on the new Panamera is a thing of beauty, however I can't get comfortable with the fastback 4-door coupe aesthetic. Second gen much better looking than the first, but that's not saying much.

Link Posted: 1/29/2017 5:00:35 PM EST
You forgot the legless adults.

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Originally Posted By Observer:


911s have back seats that fit slender women and grandchildren... Just sayin.
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Link Posted: 1/29/2017 5:05:28 PM EST
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I was going to post a thread about buying one. It's between that and an M5. Either will be nice. Either will be expensive to maintain.
Link Posted: 1/29/2017 5:07:08 PM EST
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Originally Posted By RASPUTIN8:
You forgot the legless adults.
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There is actually quite a bit of leg room in the back. It's the head room the suffers.

I was kind of hoping this thread would be more about the speed and handling of this car as opposed to style especially since style is subjective where performance is quantitative.
Link Posted: 1/29/2017 5:07:25 PM EST
Aren't most cars sold in the US electronically governed at 155? Also, purchase or lease? I wouldn't waste my money on one of those German shit boxes.
Link Posted: 1/29/2017 5:07:56 PM EST
It has twice as many doors as any good, self-respecting Porsche ought to.
Link Posted: 1/29/2017 5:08:31 PM EST
4 door fail.
Link Posted: 1/29/2017 5:11:24 PM EST
Seems to me that the M6 GC is a better rival for the Panamera. If you are set on the M5 and are looking to purchase new, then wait because the new one is dropping this year.

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Originally Posted By spidey07:
I was going to post a thread about buying one. It's between that and an M5. Either will be nice. Either will be expensive to maintain.
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Link Posted: 1/29/2017 5:14:55 PM EST
It's funny, my wife loves them, I hated them when they first came out. After years of looking at them I finally like them. Don't want one, but like how they look now.
Link Posted: 1/29/2017 5:15:42 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Bourbonator:
Aren't most cars sold in the US electronically governed at 155? Also, purchase or lease? I wouldn't waste my money on one of those German shit boxes.
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To answer the first question, no.
Link Posted: 1/29/2017 5:16:35 PM EST
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Originally Posted By RASPUTIN8:
The spoiler deployment on the new Panamera is a thing of beauty, however I can't get comfortable with the fastback 4-door coupe aesthetic. Second gen much better looking than the first, but that's not saying much.

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--1F6MiBQv--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/nxjhkp1pz841domx6217.gif
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It's a Decepticon!
Link Posted: 1/29/2017 5:18:12 PM EST
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Originally Posted By diehippy:
And ugly as sin while doing it.
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Beyond.
I have driven one and it is awesome to drive though.
Link Posted: 1/29/2017 5:20:43 PM EST
I like them. If I didn't need a car and HD truck it would get a serious look.
Link Posted: 1/29/2017 5:21:32 PM EST
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Originally Posted By diehippy:
And ugly as sin while doing it.
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One of the worst looking cars around today.
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Originally Posted By RASPUTIN8:
Seems to me that the M6 GC is a better rival for the Panamera. If you are set on the M5 and are looking to purchase new, then wait because the new one is dropping this year.

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Originally Posted By RASPUTIN8:
Seems to me that the M6 GC is a better rival for the Panamera. If you are set on the M5 and are looking to purchase new, then wait because the new one is dropping this year.

Originally Posted By spidey07:
I was going to post a thread about buying one. It's between that and an M5. Either will be nice. Either will be expensive to maintain.


Thanks. The m5 and m6 have been my dream cars for 30 years. I owned an m3 in my early 20s.

Luv me a real full size sport sedan.
Link Posted: 1/29/2017 5:24:39 PM EST
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Originally Posted By FFmedicAdam:
It's funny, my wife loves them, I hated them when they first came out. After years of looking at them I finally like them. Don't want one, but like how they look now.
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Same here. BUT! If I wanted a Porsche, I'd get a 911. If I wanted a sedan, I'd get an S63.

The Panamera is neither a sports car, nor sedan. It's an amazing machine, but I'll pass.

TC
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Originally Posted By spidey07:


Thanks. The m5 and m6 have been my dream cars for 30 years. I owned an m3 in my early 20s.

Luv me a real full size sport sedan.
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The older V10's sound GLORIOUS.
Link Posted: 1/29/2017 5:30:20 PM EST
Originally Posted By hummerbk:
A Buddy bought the top of the line Panamera. 550 hp and 0 to 60 in about 3.4 seconds. He did a couple of speed runs using the launch control mode where you stand on the brake and floor the gas to build up turbo boost. Oh my God! I can understand how people with super fast cars can wipe out and kill themselves.
This one has four wheel drive and tracked straight but things are happening so fast that if something went wrong I wouldn't have time to react. He took it up to 170 mph before he backed off. I would love to own one myself. It sure would make passing on the freeway fun.
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You there are people with skills at driving fast . It is on the other hand easy to buy a car and not have the skills to drive it .
Link Posted: 1/29/2017 5:32:11 PM EST
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Originally Posted By tinman831:


The older V10's sound GLORIOUS.
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I agree. My wife's M5 sounded amazing. Until the transmission exploded...that experience took a little shine off the apple.
Link Posted: 1/29/2017 5:33:03 PM EST
Haters gonna hate. I like the Panamera.
Link Posted: 1/29/2017 5:34:39 PM EST
I like Porsche. Congrats to your buddy.
Link Posted: 1/29/2017 5:38:38 PM EST
Link Posted: 1/29/2017 5:42:05 PM EST
There are more attractive Hyundais and Skodas.
Link Posted: 1/29/2017 5:42:27 PM EST
I know a guy who leasing a Panamera. (Apparently nobody actually buys cars that that, they all lease them. Go figure...)

He said it was fun to drive but the whole car was one giant continuous blind spot to the sides and the rear.
Link Posted: 1/29/2017 5:46:40 PM EST
Originally Posted By hummerbk:
A Buddy bought the top of the line Panamera. 550 hp and 0 to 60 in about 3.4 seconds. He did a couple of speed runs using the launch control mode where you stand on the brake and floor the gas to build up turbo boost. Oh my God! I can understand how people with super fast cars can wipe out and kill themselves.
This one has four wheel drive and tracked straight but things are happening so fast that if something went wrong I wouldn't have time to react. He took it up to 170 mph before he backed off. I would love to own one myself. It sure would make passing on the freeway fun.
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You would get used to the acceleration pretty quickly and it wouldn't seem so uncontrollable.
Link Posted: 1/29/2017 5:46:40 PM EST
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Originally Posted By HostisHumaniGeneris:
It has twice as many doors as any good, self-respecting Porsche ought to.
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the non-self-respecting Porsches are the reason you can still buy a new Porsche.
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Originally Posted By DK-Prof:


I wonder how common and strong this opinion would actually be if Top Gear hadn't relentlessly made the point about how ugly they thought the Panamera was.

My wife actually like the first gen model better than the new second gen.


Porsche did send us a very nice hard-cover coffee table book about the new Panamera, hoping to sell us one, no doubt.
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Originally Posted By 4thbreak:
Originally Posted By diehippy:
And ugly as sin while doing it.

One of the worst looking cars around today.


I wonder how common and strong this opinion would actually be if Top Gear hadn't relentlessly made the point about how ugly they thought the Panamera was.

My wife actually like the first gen model better than the new second gen.


Porsche did send us a very nice hard-cover coffee table book about the new Panamera, hoping to sell us one, no doubt.



Yes, Top Gear bashed the looks heavily, but when they test drove it were quite positive in the reviews.

A proper two door Porsche is best, but I sure as shit would take a Panamera over many other four door cars if I needed the room and had the spare $$$
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Originally Posted By DK-Prof:


I wonder how common and strong this opinion would actually be if Top Gear hadn't relentlessly made the point about how ugly they thought the Panamera was.

My wife actually like the first gen model better than the new second gen.


Porsche did send us a very nice hard-cover coffee table book about the new Panamera, hoping to sell us one, no doubt.
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Despite how much they ranted about its looks they went on about how much fun it was to drive.

Even Clarkson had to admit it.
Link Posted: 1/29/2017 5:57:56 PM EST
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Originally Posted By hummerbk:
A Buddy bought the top of the line Panamera. 550 hp and 0 to 60 in about 3.4 seconds. He did a couple of speed runs using the launch control mode where you stand on the brake and floor the gas to build up turbo boost. Oh my God! I can understand how people with super fast cars can wipe out and kill themselves.
This one has four wheel drive and tracked straight but things are happening so fast that if something went wrong I wouldn't have time to react. He took it up to 170 mph before he backed off. I would love to own one myself. It sure would make passing on the freeway fun.
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buddy of mine bought a twin turbo Carrera 2 in 04, we used to make a speed run <edited> of 147 miles for breakfast in Soldotna, we could make it in an hour and 45 minutes, he did it in 55min. Of course the road is much better now with 90% of the corners gone until Kenai lake.

He parked at a store one day and some fucking punks keyed it, made me sick, he had to ship it out of state to get it repainted, over $30 grand
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Originally Posted By RASPUTIN8:
The spoiler deployment on the new Panamera is a thing of beauty, however I can't get comfortable with the fastback 4-door coupe aesthetic. Second gen much better looking than the first, but that's not saying much.

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--1F6MiBQv--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/nxjhkp1pz841domx6217.gif
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Funny thing is the way the car looks would be just fine.... if it wasn't a Porsche.
It just looks out of character for the company, I think that is what makes it offputting to many, myself included.
Link Posted: 1/29/2017 6:06:43 PM EST
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Originally Posted By tinman831:


The older V10's sound GLORIOUS.
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Originally Posted By spidey07:


Thanks. The m5 and m6 have been my dream cars for 30 years. I owned an m3 in my early 20s.

Luv me a real full size sport sedan.


The older V10's sound GLORIOUS.


I got to drive a 2009? M5 with a V10 once. Crazy fast! Crazy expensive to maintain or repair, too.

But dat V10 howl....
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Originally Posted By Atomic_Ferret:


Funny thing is the way the car looks would be just fine.... if it wasn't a Porsche.
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Was going to ask if people would like the design if it was another make.

I think that thing is gorgeous, and that it is a beautiful 4-door.
Link Posted: 1/29/2017 6:10:58 PM EST
The Grand Tour had a great segment this week on launch control using a Porsche GT3
Link Posted: 1/29/2017 6:15:42 PM EST
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I dunno. I think it is more of a general issue of a coupe silhouette with four doors. The A7 still looks weird to me but the CLS/M6 GC make it work IMO.

It is a very polarizing body shape, but you do have a point that Porsches tend to have a more unified design aesthetic.

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Originally Posted By Atomic_Ferret:


Funny thing is the way the car looks would be just fine.... if it wasn't a Porsche.
It just looks out of character for the company, I think that is what makes it offputting to many, myself included.
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Link Posted: 1/29/2017 6:17:58 PM EST
The transmission in the V10 was brutal at city speeds. Much more refined on the current generation with the dual-clutch but alas no more V10 NA goodness.

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Originally Posted By spartacus2002:


I got to drive a 2009? M5 with a V10 once. Crazy fast! Crazy expensive to maintain or repair, too.

But dat V10 howl....
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Link Posted: 1/29/2017 6:26:01 PM EST
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Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
The Panamera is an amazing car.
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It is, it is amazingly ugly, but I understand why you have to say what you say.
Link Posted: 1/29/2017 6:34:55 PM EST
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Originally Posted By RASPUTIN8:
Seems to me that the M6 GC is a better rival for the Panamera. If you are set on the M5 and are looking to purchase new, then wait because the new one is dropping this year.
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"Dropping"??!!??

LoL
Link Posted: 1/29/2017 6:39:31 PM EST
I'd rather buy an rs7
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Link Posted: 1/29/2017 7:19:39 PM EST
I guess I'm in the minority. I think they look fantastic.
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