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Posted: 1/19/2006 12:49:15 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 12:52:41 PM EDT
went through the same thing they wanted $600.00 for reciever 1 1\2 on the phone with them and I got it for Like $25.00 NO LIE Tell them you want out of your contract and are willing to pay cancelation fee and they will change their tone. Ask to talk to a supervisor they told me this price is negotiable.
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 12:55:39 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 12:58:12 PM EDT
My dad got The Dish Network six months ago and it has never worked right.

I keep telling him to sell their crap to the cable company and they will set him up right.
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 1:03:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/19/2006 1:05:51 PM EDT by quijanos]
Got a dishNet set up about 5 years ago and it worked fine for about 6 months long enough for the contract to run out......they sat on the phone line with me and did a check over the phone line, etc sent signals.....turns out the box was bad and when I asked them what they were going to do about it, they said it was my baby to get fixed.


I told them to send me a final bill and that they can go to hell.

They sent me the bill but it appears that they haven't left for hell yet.


editted for clarity


Link Posted: 1/19/2006 1:05:18 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 1:15:09 PM EDT
If your TV is upconverting it and making it look bad, could you not turn that feature off? I have an HDTV and Dish and it looks fine.
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 1:20:11 PM EDT
Um, the tv looks crappy be cause you are just putting a low quality piture onto a huge tv and making it biger.

You can have a regular dish HD rcvr installed for most usualy $100. OR if you have a single tuner, replace it for $50.

The new HD-DVR dual tuner upgrade will cost you $299. Or if you wait a few more months $99.
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 1:22:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/19/2006 1:25:03 PM EDT by lordtrader]
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 1:24:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/19/2006 1:26:52 PM EDT by Zip]
It is a new generation that is not out yet. It will be a leased unit as well. You will be able to purches them later if you want but it costs the same per month to have them on your acct and if you lease it you get the unit for alot less.

I would wait personally, it uses MPEG-4, which is a different compression format and will allow you to get more channels. The new dvrs they are shipping out have this feature.
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 1:25:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By lordtrader:
Well I just got a new plasma TV. Plugged in my dishnetwork DVR 625 and lower channels are fuzzy. The letters, if there are letters in the picture, look like as if I was near sighted. Picture sometime will have some ghosting. Like running a rabbit ears antenna. Upper channels, 100+ are a little better not much, ghosting seem to disappear. So I plug the old TV back in and everything is clear. So I am thinking I got ripped on the TV. I call the mfg and spend 3hrs on the phone with the tech guys. Well seems it not the TV. I put on a DVD and the freaking picture looks almost 3D.

So I call Dish.

1st Call, tech says I am outta luck. Need to get HD tuner for $600. I hang up call again.

2nd call, has me trying different inputs. RCA, COAX, and S-Video. No compnent and DVI cause its not an HD recvr. No improvement. Tried a few different settings. No improvement. She then says to point dish differently. Seems to enhance a little. Next she said she will send DB booster. Got it last night. NO freaking help. Also check grounding issues. Nothing.

3rd call, got to advanced tech dept. Guy gets on the phone and goes, let me guess you have an HDTV plasma. I say yes. He says "well the problem is your tv is trying to convert SDTV signal to HD signal" Unfortunately that is as good as it gets with our SD recvr. Need to get the new HD recvr, new sat dish coming out in Mar. It will up the ehancement and will convert SD to ED. HD to HD. Apparently a ton of people have been complaining specially with local channels. He recommended I get a Terk HD antenna for $40.

This really pisses me off. Wish I knew this before going with DishNetwork. No I am stuck with an 18mos contract.

So here's a warning to you guys. If you are getting an HDTV plasma, don't get dishnetwork. They want you to freaking buy expensive ass equipment to get the full potential of your tv. I am so pissed an dissapointed and not to mention broke.





Isn't technology wonderful??
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 1:26:09 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 1:28:07 PM EDT
Dish keeps pulling channels, it looks like they are going down the tubes, time to bail out!
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 1:29:25 PM EDT
That's one reason I went with Cox the get HD. No need to buy any receiver, let alone one for $600 and it's only $4 more a month than non HD cable. It's the best deal in HD right now.

Some of the lower number channels picture isn't great, but it's not too bad. HD looks great. I think some of the non HD channels llok worse because after you see HD everything else looks like shit.

I know this doesn't really help you if you have a 18 month contract.
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 1:29:37 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 1:30:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By lordtrader:

Originally Posted By Zip:
It is a new generation that is not out yet.

I would wait personally, it uses MPEG-4, which is a different compression format and will allow you to get more channels. The new dvrs they are shipping out have this feature.



That is the one they are telling me to wait for in April. $299 with $200 rebate.



what...? for a 942 dual Hd tuner?

Link Posted: 1/19/2006 1:32:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/19/2006 1:34:30 PM EDT by lordtrader]
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 1:33:51 PM EDT
622
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 1:35:05 PM EDT
I bet they're all like that. If they can fuck you they will.
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 1:35:44 PM EDT
Dish Network is kinda the Ford Pinto of satellite TV.

Lotta people owned them. None of the owners were happy about it.

Link Posted: 1/19/2006 1:35:58 PM EDT

Dish has been pretty good to me as far as service goes. I dont have HD though.

The main reason I like them is they have $33 a month plan. Nobody else offers any plans that cheap around me.
I get local channels clear and about 70 other channels with disc,sci-fi,history channel for $33+$5 for DVR. Thats a hell of a lot better than rabbit ears and still affordable.
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 1:42:23 PM EDT
Oh ya dish monthly bills are all going up ini Feb.
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 1:43:47 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 1:44:13 PM EDT
So, you bought an HD TV and expected it to work on a regular reciever and that's Dish Network's fault?
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 1:46:14 PM EDT
I particularly liked all the ads for a new DVR system, installed in 4 rooms, no less, for free.

I call Dish. Sorry, new customers only. I remind them that I have been on the credit card autopay for a couple of years and have, therefore, been a star customer. I moved and didn't ask them to do squat, I took care of the dish, wiring, and everything myself.

"Sorry, that offer is for new customers only." She does offer to set me up with a DVR for several hundred dollars, plus installation, plus Dish fees, plus DVR service fees. I told her to kiss my ass.

I have been very tempted to switch to DirecTV but I suspect they are not much better. Screw your good customers, that's the new American way.
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 1:47:48 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 1:48:58 PM EDT
TV is very educational ........

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Everytime someone turns it on, I just go read a book
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 1:49:55 PM EDT

Originally Posted By lordtrader:

Originally Posted By Zip:
Oh ya dish monthly bills are all going up ini Feb.



You woudn't happen to work for them would you???



yep
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 1:54:50 PM EDT
Dishnetwork is fine as long as you do your research first and realize the limits of the resolution existing hardware. Five years of service and probably a total of 1 day without service. All of the AV forums on the internet list the requirements for HD content on the various satelite and cable companies.
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 1:55:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By lordtrader:

Originally Posted By LARRYG:
So, you bought an HD TV and expected it to work on a regular reciever and that's Dish Network's fault?



Well when a company advertises "digital" channels and then they say, "oh well only the ones considered premium are digital." There is something wrong with that.



Digital and HD are 2 different things. Who said "only the ones considered premium are digital"?
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 1:56:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By garandman:
Dish Network is kinda the Ford Pinto of satellite TV.

Lotta people owned them. None of the owners were happy about it.




I have had Dish since '99. No problems, very happy.
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 1:57:55 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Wingman26:
Dish keeps pulling channels, it looks like they are going down the tubes, time to bail out!



Gee, they lost Lifetime and OLN. If those clowns want a 70 percent increase for Dish to carry them, I don't blame Dish.
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 2:00:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By LARRYG:

Originally Posted By garandman:
Dish Network is kinda the Ford Pinto of satellite TV.

Lotta people owned them. None of the owners were happy about it.




I have had Dish since '99. No problems, very happy.



I had to replace three receivers, and their DVR never worked.

Reception was not as good as DirecTV.

Made the switch, never looked back.
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 2:14:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By lordtrader:

Originally Posted By LARRYG:
So, you bought an HD TV and expected it to work on a regular reciever and that's Dish Network's fault?



Well when a company advertises "digital" channels and then they say, "oh well only the ones considered premium are digital." There is something wrong with that.



All of dish networks channels are digital. That is not the problem. The problem here is that you are putting a low resolution signal into a HD TV. The TV takes the crappie signal and magnifies all of the flaws it has. This is not dish's fault you are using old technology with a new HD set. It's kind of like buying the best gaming computer you can find and playing solitaire on it.

Now here are some suggestions I have. First go to your local home theater store and pick up a DVD called Home Theater essentials. This disc will help you calibrate your TV and get a better picture from all sources.

Next you really will need a HD receiver as it's stupid to have a HD TV and no HD content. The HD receiver will give you a noticeably better picture than you SD set but SD will still look worse than a DVD or HD content. Now if you wait until Feb 1st you will be able to get a VIP622 receiver for $299.00 this is a dual tuner HD DVR. $299 is not that bad for a top of the line DVR.

Once you get your TV calibrated and a receiver hooked up with DVI or component you will be allot happier with Dish. Also check out Satellite Guys if you have any issues.
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 2:16:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/19/2006 2:17:24 PM EDT by LARRYG]

Originally Posted By garandman:

Originally Posted By LARRYG:

Originally Posted By garandman:
Dish Network is kinda the Ford Pinto of satellite TV.

Lotta people owned them. None of the owners were happy about it.




I have had Dish since '99. No problems, very happy.



I had to replace three receivers, and their DVR never worked.

Reception was not as good as DirecTV.

Made the switch, never looked back.



I have 3 DVRs, 1 of which is a dual tuner DVR. Never had a problem. Maybe the problem was the electrical system in your house.

Link Posted: 1/19/2006 2:32:38 PM EDT
Just upgraded my rec'r to HD. After going through customer service and finding the price, I got the new one for 50 bucks and a 25 dollar credit if i send my old one in to them.

I too find the SD channels aren't as good on my new HD tv. I just found a post say you may be able to improve this by going through a different type of input(s-video) for the SD and component for the HD.
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 2:50:57 PM EDT
www.satelliteguys.us/forumdisplay.php?f=10

Forum for Dish Network .. kinda like AR15.com...

Ted...
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 4:41:34 PM EDT
LT...getting laid will calm you down.
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 5:05:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By garandman:
Dish Network is kinda the Ford Pinto of satellite TV.

Lotta people owned them. None of the owners were happy about it.




Bullshit...

Dish Network has ALWAYS done better that DirecTV in customer satisfaction survey. And Dish Network has better programming at better prices.
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 5:10:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Zip:
Oh ya dish monthly bills are all going up ini Feb.



hell, for three straight years in Louisiana my bill went up by $2 every 3 months like clockwork. I dumped their ass when I moved to VA.
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 5:12:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/19/2006 5:17:59 PM EDT by Max_Mike]

Originally Posted By lordtrader:

Originally Posted By LARRYG:
So, you bought an HD TV and expected it to work on a regular reciever and that's Dish Network's fault?



Well when a company advertises "digital" channels and then they say, "oh well only the ones considered premium are digital." There is something wrong with that.





There is a problem and it is you… You do not understand HDTV and what you are talking about.

DISH is all digital. Digital does NOT mean HDTV.

You need to educate yourself on HDTV. To get a HDTV picture you must input a HDTV signal... the 625 is ALL digital but it is NOT a HDTV receiver. You put a non-HDTV video input in to a HDTV big screen and you get a bad picture. This is what YOU have done... garbage in - garbage out.

Link Posted: 1/19/2006 5:15:22 PM EDT
(cough)DirectTV(cough)

I sent you an IM, LT.
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 5:16:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/19/2006 5:28:13 PM EDT by A-nus]
a digital signal is TOTALY different than a HD signal.

all HD tvs look like shit with a low def signal!!! they look slightly better with a digital low def but still look like shit.

The better the tv the shityer it will look with a low def signal

if you get the HD reciever only a few of the channels will be HD, that is because it the show has to be recorded in HD and not everyone is recording like that yet. because the fcc(or which ever bloated overpaid .gov agency is in charge) keeps pushing the manditory switch date off. it was soposed to be in 2004
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 5:23:07 PM EDT
GIGO

Garbage in-Garbage out

You blame the standard definition receiver because your HD tv looks like shit?!?!?!


Link Posted: 1/19/2006 5:29:16 PM EDT
Biggest problem I have with Dish is stupid pay-per-porn keeps showing up on my bill about every other month that I never purchased. I told them why the hell would I pay for porn since I have the internet?
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 5:47:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/19/2006 5:55:21 PM EDT by Rock7]
Dish is not your problem. Pay up for the HD receiver or take the TV back.

I have a 50" HD Plasma and a Dish DVR. The picture is amazing. Even the SD channels. I had Comshaft when I first got the TV and there is no comparison between the two. For those of you who think that HD from your cable company is good, order Dish and run them both for a month. I guarantee you you will call and cancel your cable service within a few days.
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