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Posted: 9/7/2004 5:04:12 AM EDT
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A row has broken out between France and Italy over whose intelligence service is to blame for the Niger uranium controversy, which led to Britain and America claiming wrongly that Saddam Hussein was trying to buy material for nuclear bombs.

Italian diplomats say that France was behind forged documents which at first appeared to prove that Iraq was seeking "yellow-cake" uranium in Niger - evidence used by Britain and America to promote the case for last year's Gulf war.

They say that France's intelligence services used an Italian-born middle-man to circulate a mixture of genuine and bogus documents to "trap" the two leading proponents of war with Saddam into making unsupportable claims.

They have passed to The Sunday Telegraph a photograph which they claim shows the Italian go-between, sometimes known as "Giacomo" - who cannot be identified for legal reasons - meeting a senior French intelligence officer based in Brussels. "The French hoped that the bulk of the documents would be exposed as false, since many of them obviously were," an Italian official said.

"Their aim was to make the allies look ridiculous in order to undermine their case for war."

According to an account given to The Sunday Telegraph, France was driven by "a cold desire to protect their privileged, dominant trading relationship with Saddam, which in the case of war would have been at risk".

Link Posted: 9/7/2004 5:07:28 AM EDT
Wow...is this really true?

Unfortunately, this kind of article will never have enough air time on major media outlets...
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 5:08:53 AM EDT
I have found about 5 other sources. This is a real bombshell.
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 5:09:24 AM EDT
Doesn't look good for France. They lied about the yellow cake, and our soldiers paid for it with their lives. How low can you get.
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 5:10:53 AM EDT
You know I wouldn't put it past those fucking french, hell we ran accross weapons thatwere barnd new and hidden and they had been shipped from france to Iraq in the past year or two before we went to war, talk about not adhearing to the UN ban.
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 5:13:25 AM EDT
I say, GWB ought to glare rather hard in the french's general direction, and accept their unconditional surrender, then we use all of france as a war games area. Hairy, bad smelling women for all our GI's and rather mediocre wine for therest of us.

All kidding aside, something has to be done.
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 5:18:45 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Ghost-1:
You know I wouldn't put it past those fucking french, hell we ran accross weapons thatwere barnd new and hidden and they had been shipped from france to Iraq in the past year or two before we went to war, talk about not adhearing to the UN ban.

Yes… I could believe France WOULD do this with the forged Papers to discredit us…

Also: I have seen photos from our troops in Iraq of almost new Roland SAM rounds in their storage tubes… complete with the NATO stock numbers… Roland is made in France…

Link Posted: 9/7/2004 5:21:38 AM EDT
I believe it is true also.

I heard this on the news last night and my first thought...France is now with "them."
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 5:32:04 AM EDT
Damn! I always knew there was something fishy about those documents. But I had no idea this was the case. That is just outrageous.

I say it's time to get General Patton's nuts on the horn and get his 3rd Army ready to hit the beaches by tomorrow morning!
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 5:36:08 AM EDT
Complete Embargo on French goods.
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 5:45:08 AM EDT
When does the bombing of Paris begin?
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 5:48:28 AM EDT

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
When does the bombing of Paris begin?

Soon...real soon now...
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 6:08:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/7/2004 6:16:24 AM EDT by Merrell]
Remember this when considering that new Nissan (French-owned)

more French companies to avoid:

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Air France.
Air Liquide.
Allegra (allergy medication).
Aqualung (including: Spirotechnique, Technisub, US Divers, and SeaQuest).
AXA Advisors.

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Bank of the West (owned by BNP Paribas).
Beneteau (boats).
BF Goodrich (owned by Michelin).
BIC (razors, pens and lighters).
Biotherm (cosmetics).
Black Bush.
Bollinger (champagne).

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Car & Driver Magazine.
Cartier. Chanel. Chivas Regal (scotch).
Christian Dior.
Club Med (vacations).
Culligan (owned by Vivendi).

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Dannon (yogurt and dairy foods).
Dom Perignon.
Durand Crystal.

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Elle Magazine.
Essilor Optical Products.

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Fina gas stations and Fina Oil (billions invested in Iraqi oil fields).
First Hawaiian Bank.

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George Magazine.
Godiva chocolate (Belgium)
Glenlivet (scotch)
Grey Goose (vodka)

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Houghton Mifflin (books).

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Jacobs Creek (owned by Pernod Ricard since 1989).
Jameson (whiskey).
Jerry Springer (talk show)

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Krups (coffee and cappuccino makers).

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Le Creuset (cookware).
L'Oreal (health and beauty products).
Louis Vitton.

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Marie Claire.
Martel Cognac.
Méphisto (shoes and clothes).
Michelin (tires and auto parts).
Mikasa (crystal and glass).
Moet (champagne).
Motel 6.
Motown Records.
Mumms (champagne).

>>> **
Nissan (cars; majority owned by Renault).
Normany Butter.

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Ombrelle (Skin Care)[L'Oreal]
Orlando (wine>

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Parents Magazine.
Peugeot (automobiles).
Pierre Cardin.
ProScan (owned by Thomson Electronics, France).
Publicis Group (including Saatchi & Saatchi Advertising).

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RCA (televisions and electronics; owned by Thomson Electronics).
Red Magazine.
Red Roof Inns (owned by Accor group in France).
Renault (automobiles).
Road & Track Magazine.
Roquefort cheese (all Roquefort cheese is made in France).
Rowenta (toasters, irons, coffee makers, etc.).
Royal Canadian.

>>> **
Salomon (skis).
Sierra Software and Computer Games. Smart & Final.
Sofitel (hotels, owned by Accor).
Sparkletts (water, owned by Danone).
Spencer Gifts.
Sundance Channel.

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T-Fal (kitchenware).
TIMAC Crop Fertilizer.
Total gas stations.

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UbiSoft (computer games).
Universal Studios (music, movies and amusement parks; owned by Vivendi-Universal).

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Veuve Clicquot Champagne.

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Wild Turkey (bourbon).
Windham Estate (wine)
Woman's Day Magazine.

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Yoplait (The French company Sodiaal owns a 50 percent stake).

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Zodiac Inflatable Boats.

here is a site verifying if companies are French or not

Link Posted: 9/7/2004 6:14:41 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 6:17:01 AM EDT
UbiSoft? Bollinger?
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 6:44:17 AM EDT
Don't forget though that four previous shipments of "yellow cake" from Niger to Iraq have been confirmed, and found in Iraq. Its the fifth one that had some bogus documents show up.
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 6:46:30 AM EDT

Originally Posted By HiramRanger:
Time to re-liberate the French... linergie models may survive, everyone else pushed into the English channel... and no, this isn't genocide.... the lingerie models get to live!

Please don't pollute our Channel with their unwashed French bodies!…

Push them into the Baltic so they can wash up on their German friends beaches…

Link Posted: 9/7/2004 6:47:35 AM EDT
Worst, allies, EVER!
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 6:51:40 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 7:08:57 AM EDT

Originally Posted By HiramRanger:
Fine, I guess you blokes have earned that... nothing worse than stinking fetid sewage washing up on your shores...

We put enough sewage straight out into the North Sea without adding more to it

I had this forwarded to me the other day under the Subject: Who let Inspector Clouseau run the DGSE?

It does seem quite amazing that somebody thought this was a good idea in order to _stop_ a war with Iraq, it seems overly convoluted to me... Didn't the Telegraph employ Robert Fisk for a while too, I'd take this with a pinch of salt.

Oh, and OY you Sep's, the Telegraph is a major news outlet, just cos it aint on CNN doesnt mean it didn't happen

Link Posted: 9/7/2004 12:38:03 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 12:45:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Ghost-1:
You know I wouldn't put it past those fucking french, hell we ran accross weapons thatwere barnd new and hidden and they had been shipped from france to Iraq in the past year or two before we went to war, talk about not adhearing to the UN ban.

Many people have tried to say that this is BS.

I had dinner with a Lt. Col. that said "It isn't bullshit... I saw them with my own eyes."

That clinched it for me.

- BG
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 1:01:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TacticalMan:
Complete Embargo on French goods.

Link Posted: 9/7/2004 1:03:03 PM EDT
I though those obvioust forgeries had orignially been made by British intlligence - for some reason - a few years before, and then accidentally had been taken as real by other intelligence services later.

IIRC that was the story I heard in 2002
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