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Posted: 9/13/2010 3:46:00 PM EDT

is stating that since Barry Care does not go into effect until 2015 lawsuits over it forcing us to buy insurance should be held off till then.

Posted: 9/13/2010 3:47:24 PM EDT

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is stating that since Barry Care does not go into effect until 2015 lawsuits over it forcing us to buy insurance should be held off till then.

sounds about right why would you want your plan shot down as unconstitutional while you have a re election to win

Posted: 9/13/2010 3:47:40 PM EDT

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Big City Thinking!

Posted: 9/13/2010 3:48:45 PM EDT

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I have a feeling all the nasty stuff in it will get cut out and turn it into a giant gift to the insurance companies.

Rates will go up, people will have to pay, businesses themselves will make B.S. plans not to pay, and no individual will be able to opt out.

Posted: 9/13/2010 3:49:38 PM EDT

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As far as my Tax returns are concerned I think that train of thought is a little off

Posted: 9/13/2010 3:51:38 PM EDT

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As far as my Tax returns are concerned I think that train of thought is a little off

Indeed.

In other news, they forgot to include a severance clause in the bill. If the individual mandate does get successfully challenged; it may just bring the whole bill down.

Posted: 9/13/2010 3:52:11 PM EDT

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is stating that since Barry Care does not go into effect until 2015 lawsuits over it forcing us to buy insurance should be held off till then.

And the surprise prize is?

Posted: 9/13/2010 3:57:08 PM EDT

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is stating that since Barry Care does not go into effect until 2015 lawsuits over it forcing us to buy insurance should be held off till then.

And the surprise prize is?

Gee, I don't know, maybe they should have cut AZ some slack. Maybe not sue them until it was proved that they did something wrong. Did I really type that? What am I saying, this is Barry and his happy band of autocratic communists. I should have known.

Posted: 9/13/2010 3:57:25 PM EDT

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is stating that since Barry Care does not go into effect until 2015 lawsuits over it forcing us to buy insurance should be held off till then.

Same thing applied to Campaign Finance Reform.

In most cases, you have to actually have been harmed by something, in order to get standing to sue.

It's going to get de-funded this January, and the 1099 provision will be up for repeal, anyhow....

Posted: 9/13/2010 3:59:34 PM EDT

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I have a feeling all the nasty stuff in it will get cut out and turn it into a giant gift to the insurance companies.

Rates will go up, people will have to pay, businesses themselves will make B.S. plans not to pay, and no individual will be able to opt out.

I believe that it was written by insurance company lobbyists so I wouldn't be surprised. And people will still say the demoncrap party is the party of the people. Fucking clueless sheep.

Posted: 9/13/2010 8:10:18 PM EDT

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I don't want Obamacare fixed. I don't want it patched. I don't want it amended.

I want it repealed in its entirety.

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Posted: 9/13/2010 8:14:28 PM EDT

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I don't want Obamacare fixed. I don't want it patched. I don't want it amended.

I want it repealed in its entirety.

This

Posted: 9/13/2010 8:16:34 PM EDT

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is stating that since Barry Care does not go into effect until 2015 lawsuits over it forcing us to buy insurance should be held off till then.

And the surprise prize is?

Gee, I don't know, maybe they should have cut AZ some slack. Maybe not sue them until it was proved that they did something wrong. Did I really type that? What am I saying, this is Barry and his happy band of autocratic communists. I should have known.

it would be hard for a judge to deny that one.

Posted: 9/13/2010 8:18:13 PM EDT

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is stating that since Barry Care does not go into effect until 2015 lawsuits over it forcing us to buy insurance should be held off till then.

Same thing applied to Campaign Finance Reform.

In most cases, you have to actually have been harmed by something, in order to get standing to sue.

It's going to get de-funded this January, and the 1099 provision will be up for repeal, anyhow....

States' authority was injured upon passage, not implementation. Also, generally, the Court tends to be fairly liberal with states' standing.

Posted: 9/13/2010 8:46:24 PM EDT

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is stating that since Barry Care does not go into effect until 2015 lawsuits over it forcing us to buy insurance should be held off till then.

Same thing applied to Campaign Finance Reform.

In most cases, you have to actually have been harmed by something, in order to get standing to sue.

It's going to get de-funded this January, and the 1099 provision will be up for repeal, anyhow....

States' authority was injured upon passage, not implementation. Also, generally, the Court tends to be fairly liberal with states' standing.

Also, our pocket books ARE being harmed as Insurance companies are rushing to increase rates based on the passage of this lunacy. While I am no JD it sure seems to me that harm is being had by all currently.

Posted: 9/14/2010 6:13:43 AM EDT

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As far as my Tax returns are concerned I think that train of thought is a little off

Indeed.

In other news, they forgot to include a severance clause in the bill. If the individual mandate does get successfully challenged; it may just bring the whole bill down.

For real?? That's pretty good news.

How on earth did all those lawyers and aides miss something as simple as this??

Posted: 9/14/2010 6:22:21 AM EDT

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But since the taxes are collected up to that point, this should be resolved fast since the collection of these taxes could be unconstitutional.

Posted: 9/14/2010 6:38:29 AM EDT

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is stating that since Barry Care does not go into effect until 2015 lawsuits over it forcing us to buy insurance should be held off till then.

Until then we'll just keep paying for it.

Fuck that

Posted: 9/14/2010 6:42:01 AM EDT

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REPEAL IT!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: 9/14/2010 6:55:42 AM EDT

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Quoted:

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is stating that since Barry Care does not go into effect until 2015 lawsuits over it forcing us to buy insurance should be held off till then.

Same thing applied to Campaign Finance Reform.

In most cases, you have to actually have been harmed by something, in order to get standing to sue.

It's going to get de-funded this January, and the 1099 provision will be up for repeal, anyhow....

Neal Bortz was talking about the 10-99 provision this morning....the Dems are using a rule that says a repeal will need a 2/3 vote to pass...they don't have it so the 10-99 rule is here to stay.

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