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Posted: 1/2/2011 5:33:55 PM EDT
Anyone else impressed with the new ford ecoboost?

http://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/experiencef150/
Link Posted: 1/2/2011 5:36:57 PM EDT
Nobody else is getting that power and torque with those mileage numbers in a fullsized gas pickup.
Link Posted: 1/2/2011 5:42:35 PM EDT
How much does it cost? I did not see pricing.
Link Posted: 1/2/2011 5:43:40 PM EDT
I am not impressed with the name. I discounted it for over a year because when I heard the word eco I was turned off and I am a performance junkie. Little did I know it was 4 new turbo engines they were introducing. I have been playing with turbos for 20 years.
Link Posted: 1/2/2011 5:47:12 PM EDT
Originally Posted By CAR_16:
How much does it cost? I did not see pricing.


$1500 over base, $750 over the V8.
Link Posted: 1/2/2011 5:52:15 PM EDT
Wifey bought a Flex with the Eco-Boost.
Nice family truckster that gets out of it's own way just fine.

My F-150 is an 01, might go look at Ford's new trucks nest year.
Link Posted: 1/2/2011 6:02:24 PM EDT
Mileage numbers?
Link Posted: 1/2/2011 6:11:23 PM EDT

Originally Posted By pv74:
Mileage numbers?

16city/23hwy tested

365 hp
420 ftlb
11,300 lb towing capacity
Link Posted: 1/2/2011 6:14:04 PM EDT
Ecoboost? Makes me want to eat a PandaBurger. Fuck that noise; I'll hold out until they come along with a turbo.
Link Posted: 1/2/2011 6:16:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/2/2011 6:18:13 PM EDT by RDTCU]

Originally Posted By L_JE:
Ecoboost? Makes me want to eat a PandaBurger. Fuck that noise; I'll hold out until they come along with a turbo.

The Ecoboost is twin turbocharged and direct injected...
Link Posted: 1/2/2011 6:16:55 PM EDT
Originally Posted By RDTCU:

Originally Posted By pv74:
Mileage numbers?

16city/23hwy tested

365 hp
420 ftlb
11,300 lb towing capacity


You idiot, it is a turbo!
Link Posted: 1/2/2011 6:17:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/2/2011 6:17:55 PM EDT by RDTCU]

Originally Posted By Timanator:
Originally Posted By RDTCU:

Originally Posted By pv74:
Mileage numbers?

16city/23hwy tested

365 hp
420 ftlb
11,300 lb towing capacity
You idiot, it is a turbo!
You idiot, you quoted the wrong post

Link Posted: 1/2/2011 6:20:09 PM EDT
Wheee......! 2016 CAFE standards to the rescue.

Link Posted: 1/2/2011 6:26:25 PM EDT
Originally Posted By RDTCU:

Originally Posted By L_JE:
Ecoboost? Makes me want to eat a PandaBurger. Fuck that noise; I'll hold out until they come along with a turbo.

The Ecoboost is twin turbocharged and direct injected...


Funny.... the original marketing name for "Ecoboost"(enviroment/fuel savings) was "Twin Force" (power/explosions).

Link Posted: 1/2/2011 6:37:05 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Timanator:
Originally Posted By RDTCU:

Originally Posted By pv74:
Mileage numbers?

16city/23hwy tested

365 hp
420 ftlb
11,300 lb towing capacity


You idiot, it is a turbo!


I think I'm the idiot you're trying to quote here.

I also think that you made my point rather well. If it's a turbo, then why doesn't Ford just call it a turbo, instead of clogging up the Retarded Trademarks Qeue in DC?

Turbomachines scream along at 50,000+ rpm, run red hot and do some serious work. This is completely incongruent with the image that pops into my mind when I hear "Ecoboost", which is that of a lazy-ass panda bear being spoon-fed bamboo by a california condor while being serenaded by a spotted owl.
Link Posted: 1/2/2011 6:42:23 PM EDT
Originally Posted By L_JE:
Ecoboost? Makes me want to eat a PandaBurger. Fuck that noise; I'll hold out until they come along with a turbo.


Do you bother reading much?
Link Posted: 1/2/2011 6:50:13 PM EDT
IBTTINRFDG!!



In Before The There Is No Replacement For Displacement Goons!
Link Posted: 1/2/2011 6:53:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By L_JE:
Originally Posted By Timanator:
Originally Posted By RDTCU:

Originally Posted By pv74:
Mileage numbers?

16city/23hwy tested

365 hp
420 ftlb
11,300 lb towing capacity



You idiot, it is a turbo!
I think I'm the idiot you're trying to quote here.

I also think that you made my point rather well. If it's a turbo, then why doesn't Ford just call it a turbo, instead of clogging up the Retarded Trademarks Qeue in DC?

Turbomachines scream along at 50,000+ rpm, run red hot and do some serious work. This is completely incongruent with the image that pops into my mind when I hear "Ecoboost", which is that of a lazy-ass panda bear being spoon-fed bamboo by a california condor while being serenaded by a spotted owl.

I pay more attention to the numbers than the marketing names, and the whole point to turbocharging a v6 was for economy while offering V8 performance.

If it was meant to be strictly a performance machine they would have started with the 6.2...
Link Posted: 1/2/2011 6:53:24 PM EDT
Lots of trolls in this thread methinks.
Link Posted: 1/2/2011 6:54:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Matthew_Q:
IBTTINRFDG!!



In Before The There Is No Replacement For Displacement Goons!

But if you were to twin turbo the 5.0............
Link Posted: 1/2/2011 6:55:52 PM EDT
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=134&t=1126236

Interesting discussion regarding the EcoBoost...
Link Posted: 1/2/2011 6:56:11 PM EDT
Originally Posted By L_JE:
Originally Posted By Timanator:
Originally Posted By RDTCU:

Originally Posted By pv74:
Mileage numbers?

16city/23hwy tested

365 hp
420 ftlb
11,300 lb towing capacity


You idiot, it is a turbo!


I think I'm the idiot you're trying to quote here.

I also think that you made my point rather well. If it's a turbo, then why doesn't Ford just call it a turbo, instead of clogging up the Retarded Trademarks Qeue in DC?

Turbomachines scream along at 50,000+ rpm, run red hot and do some serious work. This is completely incongruent with the image that pops into my mind when I hear "Ecoboost", which is that of a lazy-ass panda bear being spoon-fed bamboo by a california condor while being serenaded by a spotted owl.


Who cares what the hell they name it? The thread was about if you are impressed by it. Its a V6 with twin turbos. It gets more horse power, more torque, and better gas milage then the 5.4L V8 and it has held up very well during the torture testing they have done on it. Are you impressed? if not why not?
Link Posted: 1/2/2011 7:00:55 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Matthew_Q:
IBTTINRFDG!!



In Before The There Is No Replacement For Displacement Goons!


I USED to think that...not anymore...
Even the base engine (the 3.7 V-6) in the 2011 lineup is one hell of a motor.


Link Posted: 1/2/2011 7:06:23 PM EDT
We've reached the point that we can make great vehicles without needing max power from a large engine.

A 7.4L using modern technology would be nearly impossible for most people to drive safely. It used to be fairly common...
Link Posted: 1/2/2011 7:17:36 PM EDT
Turbo in a non-diesel screams Ricer with a fartcan muffler.

Ecoboost is just a way to get a the envirowackos off of Fords back.
Link Posted: 1/2/2011 7:45:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By NoHarmNoFAL:
Turbo in a non-diesel screams Ricer with a fartcan muffler.

Ecoboost is just a way to get a the envirowackos off of Fords back.

Funny, my Inline Twin Turbo V6 isn't a diesel nor does it sound like a Fart Can.
Link Posted: 1/2/2011 7:48:18 PM EDT
Interestingly enough, people who don't post on ARFcom are actually attracted to what they consider to be environmentally sound products.

Which is good, because they aren't as cheap as most of you fuckers.
Link Posted: 1/2/2011 8:07:39 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
Originally Posted By CAR_16:
How much does it cost? I did not see pricing.


$1500 over base, $750 over the V8.


You'll drive a while before the fuel savings pays for the higher price tag.

Then, there's the durability/complexity issue: A large-displacement engine tends to be less prone to breakage than a small-displacement engine that's putting out similar power - not to mention the latter's extra turbo parts and bleeding-edge fuel injection scheme.

It may be powerful and efficient when everything is working properly, but it smells like it'll be a service department queen.
Link Posted: 1/2/2011 8:22:49 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Skibane:
You'll drive a while before the fuel savings pays for the higher price tag.


Not really. About a year, in my case. Less, for my dad, who might get one in the next few months.

Originally Posted By Skibane:
Then, there's the durability/complexity issue: A large-displacement engine tends to be less prone to breakage than a small-displacement engine that's putting out similar power - not to mention the latter's extra turbo parts and bleeding-edge fuel injection scheme.


Again, doubtful. And DI has some huge advantages, as well.

Originally Posted By Skibane:
It may be powerful and efficient when everything is working properly, but it smells like it'll be a service department queen.


Jesus, dude, do you ride a horse?
Link Posted: 1/2/2011 8:28:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/2/2011 8:31:10 PM EDT by Skibane]
Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
...


Yeh, fine.

You buy one, and I'll buy a vehicle with a NA engine of similar power output.

10 years from now, we'll see which one of us had a higher cost of ownership - and the most time spent in the service department's "customer lounge".
Link Posted: 1/2/2011 8:37:10 PM EDT
Ford has really put alot of awesome shit out lately.

if any of you towed some of the loads i tow with my truck ( 6,000 pound dump trailer loaded with logs, or stump grindings, dirt, etc )

you would really like this new 6.7Liter engine. 800 Ft lbs of torque, 400HP. and smooooooooooth. great fuel economy considering the power.

SOOOOO glad i dont own a Government Motors vehicle. ( like my brothers 2 duramax's with electrical issues )
Link Posted: 1/2/2011 8:37:26 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Skibane:
Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
...


Yeh, fine.

You buy one, and I'll buy a vehicle with a NA engine of similar power output.

10 years from now, we'll see which one of us had a higher cost of ownership - and the most time spent in the service department's "customer lounge".


Though it was fords videos... the torture test videos they put out looked pretty impressive. There is no reason why this motor can't be reliable...
Link Posted: 1/2/2011 8:39:04 PM EDT
I will be parsimonious with my verbage:

EcoPost!
Link Posted: 1/2/2011 8:40:01 PM EDT
Originally Posted By NoHarmNoFAL:
Turbo in a non-diesel screams Ricer with a fartcan muffler.

Ecoboost is just a way to get a the envirowackos off of Fords back.

Wolf in sheep's clothing, dude.

Link Posted: 1/2/2011 8:54:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/2/2011 8:54:53 PM EDT by pv74]
Originally Posted By Skibane:
Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
Originally Posted By CAR_16:
How much does it cost? I did not see pricing.

to my
$1500 over base, $750 over the V8.


You'll drive a while before the fuel savings pays for the higher price tag.

Then, there's the durability/complexity issue: A large-displacement engine tends to be less prone to breakage than a small-displacement engine that's putting out similar power - not to mention the latter's extra turbo parts and bleeding-edge fuel injection scheme.

It may be powerful and efficient when everything is working properly, but it smells like it'll be a service department queen.


Shit...did you look at the video?
Looks like they did there homework....

Time will tell...
Link Posted: 1/2/2011 8:56:42 PM EDT
I'll let you know in a week. Ford is bringing a F150 EB for me to look over.
Link Posted: 1/2/2011 9:05:55 PM EDT
Originally Posted By NoHarmNoFAL:
Turbo in a non-diesel screams Ricer with a fartcan muffler.

Ecoboost is just a way to get a the envirowackos off of Fords back.


SO I guess my Volvo would be a meatballer?
Link Posted: 1/2/2011 9:13:15 PM EDT
Originally Posted By retgarr:
Originally Posted By NoHarmNoFAL:
Turbo in a non-diesel screams Ricer with a fartcan muffler.

Ecoboost is just a way to get a the envirowackos off of Fords back.


SO I guess my Volvo would be a meatballer?


Vorvo?
Link Posted: 1/2/2011 9:15:34 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Merrell:
Originally Posted By retgarr:
Originally Posted By NoHarmNoFAL:
Turbo in a non-diesel screams Ricer with a fartcan muffler.

Ecoboost is just a way to get a the envirowackos off of Fords back.


SO I guess my Volvo would be a meatballer?


Vorvo?




Bow down to your new Chinese master.

Link Posted: 1/2/2011 9:29:34 PM EDT
Originally Posted By L_JE:
If it's a turbo, then why doesn't Ford just call it a turbo, instead of clogging up the Retarded Trademarks Qeue in DC?


That one caught me... snorfed up Cheerios into my sinuses.

Link Posted: 1/2/2011 9:37:13 PM EDT
Originally Posted By otar:
I'll let you know in a week. Ford is bringing a F150 EB for me to look over.


Unless you've invented some way of putting 200,000 miles and 10 years on a pickup in a week, we probably won't know much more about it than we do right now...
Link Posted: 1/2/2011 9:49:21 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Skibane:
Originally Posted By otar:
I'll let you know in a week. Ford is bringing a F150 EB for me to look over.


Unless you've invented some way of putting 200,000 miles and 10 years on a pickup in a week, we probably won't know much more about it than we do right now...


On Jan 15th at the Detroit Auto Show, Ford is going to tear down a 160,000 mile V-6 Ecoboost which (among other things) ran at full throttle for 24 hours towing 11,300 pounds and completed the SCORE Tecate Baja 1000 in Mexico.

A publicity stunt for sure, but interesting none the less.

Link Posted: 1/2/2011 9:50:49 PM EDT
Originally Posted By fike:
Originally Posted By Skibane:
Originally Posted By otar:
I'll let you know in a week. Ford is bringing a F150 EB for me to look over.


Unless you've invented some way of putting 200,000 miles and 10 years on a pickup in a week, we probably won't know much more about it than we do right now...


On Jan 15th at the Detroit Auto Show, Ford is going to tear down a 160,000 mile V-6 Ecoboost which (among other things) ran at full throttle for 24 hours towing 11,300 pounds and completed the SCORE Tecate Baja 1000 in Mexico.

A publicity stunt for sure, but interesting none the less.



They should hold the Detroit Auto Show somewhere else.

Link Posted: 1/2/2011 10:06:05 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Call2Arms:

Originally Posted By NoHarmNoFAL:
Turbo in a non-diesel screams Ricer with a fartcan muffler.

Ecoboost is just a way to get a the envirowackos off of Fords back.

Funny, my Inline Twin Turbo V6 isn't a diesel nor does it sound like a Fart Can.


Got a picture of that?
Link Posted: 1/2/2011 10:09:02 PM EDT
I like the idea, a V6 with V8+ Power; on V6 fuel mileage using technology. I'm watching these engines closely, out of interest in rooting for the underdog. My gut is saying these things are going to have to be built like a brick shit house to preserve the beating's and underdog whippings the V8 crowd will apply to them. I can safely say it will take a LOT to flip most of the "displacement" crowd, so this engine better be bullet proof or it will get eaten alive. Marketing crap aside, it has to be a tank.

If Ford is putting their reputation behind them, as it seems they are; why not just slap the same technology on a V8 - with ridiculous power and torque - and claim best-in-class V8 fuel mileage compared to power?

Link Posted: 1/2/2011 10:12:52 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Handsome_Rob:

If Ford is putting their reputation behind them, as it seems they are; why not just slap the same technology on a V8 - with ridiculous power and torque - and claim best-in-class V8 fuel mileage compared to power?



2016 CAFE Standards

Link Posted: 1/2/2011 10:13:45 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Handsome_Rob:
If Ford is putting their reputation behind them, as it seems they are; why not just slap the same technology on a V8 - with ridiculous power and torque - and claim best-in-class V8 fuel mileage compared to power?


They've got some prototypes. Including a V8 that has two fuel systems so it can inject ethanol to prevent detonation under heavy boost.
Link Posted: 1/2/2011 10:21:04 PM EDT
I really hope this tech is as good as they are stating. I would love to see a Ranger with a reliable, 4 cylinder turbo that puts out 220 horse and gets 25mpg around town.
Link Posted: 1/2/2011 10:26:41 PM EDT
Ranger is discontinued and you would probably get better mileage than that.
Link Posted: 1/2/2011 10:27:40 PM EDT
Originally Posted By GO4SHOOT:
I really hope this tech is as good as they are stating. I would love to see a Ranger with a reliable, 4 cylinder turbo that puts out 220 horse and gets 25mpg around town.


2011 is the last year for the Ranger in North America.

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/09/20/u-s-spec-ford-ranger-to-officially-end-production-in-2011-ford
Link Posted: 1/2/2011 10:28:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/2/2011 10:29:23 PM EDT by THellURider]
Originally Posted By NoHarmNoFAL:
Turbo in a non-diesel screams Ricer with a fartcan muffler.

Ecoboost is just a way to get a the envirowackos off of Fords back.


No, it's progress.
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