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Posted: 8/14/2011 4:00:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/14/2011 4:45:17 PM EDT by randomhero97]
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 4:09:10 PM EDT
Moderates = Slackers.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 4:12:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/14/2011 4:13:23 PM EDT by Eukatae]
A guy that is ignorant of or misrepresenting his faith does nothing to convince me that any rational thinking human shouldn't oppose Islam wherever it appears.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 4:15:59 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Eukatae:
A guy that is ignorant of or misrepresenting his faith does nothing to convince me that any rational thinking human shouldn't oppose Islam wherever it appears.


Maybe so, but Tarek apparently believes in Islam as a faith instead of a political ideology.

Link Posted: 8/14/2011 4:16:05 PM EDT
Taqiyya tactic,he isn't a *real* Muslim etc etc etc
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 4:25:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/14/2011 4:32:21 PM EDT by Pegasus6]
Is this one of those "98% of Muslims are fake. Real Muslims want to do that there Jihad and kill all you Infidels. The only way to be sure is to kill all the Brown people and let God sort them out" threads?

I guess I'll have to tell my 09Ls that they can't come out on mission with us anymore.

ETA: not referred to the OP...being prophetic.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 4:26:37 PM EDT
Originally Posted By randomhero97:
Originally Posted By Eukatae:
A guy that is ignorant of or misrepresenting his faith does nothing to convince me that any rational thinking human shouldn't oppose Islam wherever it appears.


Maybe so, but Tarek apparently believes in Islam as a faith instead of a political ideology.



It is both; both the Quran and more specifically the Hadith have loads to say about governance. Any real Muslim of course knows this.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 4:28:10 PM EDT
I can tell by the comments who actually bothered to watch that.

Trust me, it's worth the 15 minutes it takes to watch it. The man is ON POINT all the way.


CJ
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 4:28:56 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Pegasus6:
Is this one of those "98% of Muslims are fake. Real Muslims want to do that there Jihad and kill all you Infidels. The only way to be sure is to kill all the Brown people and let God sort them out" threads?

I guess I'll have to tell my 09Ls that they can't come out on mission with us anymore.



Actually no. This is one of those threads that shows a good number of Muslims believe in Western civilization and want to be a part of it.

Well, except for him claiming to be a liberal democrat part.

Link Posted: 8/14/2011 4:31:35 PM EDT
troll is troll
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 4:35:22 PM EDT
Originally Posted By gene5:
troll is troll






Come on man. The speaker in the video says what 99.99% of posters here agree with.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 4:41:28 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Pegasus6:
Is this one of those "98% of Muslims are fake. Real Muslims want to do that there Jihad and kill all you Infidels. The only way to be sure is to kill all the Brown people and let God sort them out" threads?

I guess I'll have to tell my 09Ls that they can't come out on mission with us anymore.

ETA: not referred to the OP...being prophetic.


Let your bang stick be your interpreter.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 4:41:32 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Eukatae:
A guy that is ignorant of or misrepresenting his faith does nothing to convince me that any rational thinking human shouldn't oppose Islam wherever it appears.

Islam is not like Catholicism, where there's a central authority.

Islam is more like the category "Christian," where you have Catholics, Lutherans, and the Westboro Baptists.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 4:44:56 PM EDT
Originally Posted By cmjohnson:
I can tell by the comments who actually bothered to watch that.

Trust me, it's worth the 15 minutes it takes to watch it. The man is ON POINT all the way.


CJ


OK I watched it; he makes some great points, stuff I hear from Librarians and people often opposed to the politics he exposes. But I didn't hear him say "my religion is bad and needs to pass into history".
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 4:45:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By rike:
Originally Posted By Pegasus6:
Is this one of those "98% of Muslims are fake. Real Muslims want to do that there Jihad and kill all you Infidels. The only way to be sure is to kill all the Brown people and let God sort them out" threads?

I guess I'll have to tell my 09Ls that they can't come out on mission with us anymore.

ETA: not referred to the OP...being prophetic.


Let your bang stick be your interpreter.

One of my SLs from West Virginia: "I may not speak Muslim, but you can sure bet they speak Muzzle-ese"
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 4:47:16 PM EDT
I'm a moderate muslim.

No I didn't click the link.

I'll be taking questions in the next 5 minutes.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 4:59:11 PM EDT
3 Muslim Brotherhood advisors in the White House didnt know that one!

People so scared to say anything or be called racist no truer words spoken!!!
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 5:01:44 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 36_gauge:
I'm a moderate muslim.

No I didn't click the link.

I'll be taking questions in the next 5 minutes.


i,ll ask, are you a muslim first?
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 5:15:39 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 36_gauge:
I'm a moderate muslim.

No I didn't click the link.

I'll be taking questions in the next 5 minutes.


Do you feel its okay for evil people to be killed!

Link Posted: 8/14/2011 5:18:04 PM EDT

Originally Posted By gene5:
Originally Posted By 36_gauge:
I'm a moderate muslim.

No I didn't click the link.

I'll be taking questions in the next 5 minutes.


i,ll ask, are you a muslim first?

I bet he's more loyal to the Qur'an than the US Constitution.

Typical Muslim...typical Turkish Muslim...
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 5:20:41 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Pegasus6:

Originally Posted By gene5:
Originally Posted By 36_gauge:
I'm a moderate muslim.

No I didn't click the link.

I'll be taking questions in the next 5 minutes.


i,ll ask, are you a muslim first?

I bet he's more loyal to the Qur'an than the US Constitution.

Typical Muslim...typical Turkish Muslim...


Typical xenophobic internet hero.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 5:22:03 PM EDT
Lots of moderate muslims, however moderate islam doesn't exist, and in essence all moderate muslims are heretics.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 5:24:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ckichinko:
Originally Posted By Pegasus6:

Originally Posted By gene5:
Originally Posted By 36_gauge:
I'm a moderate muslim.

No I didn't click the link.

I'll be taking questions in the next 5 minutes.


i,ll ask, are you a muslim first?

I bet he's more loyal to the Qur'an than the US Constitution.

Typical Muslim...typical Turkish Muslim...


Typical xenophobic internet hero.



You really aren't following along too well are you?
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 5:29:16 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Pegasus6:

Originally Posted By ckichinko:
Originally Posted By Pegasus6:

Originally Posted By gene5:
Originally Posted By 36_gauge:
I'm a moderate muslim.

No I didn't click the link.

I'll be taking questions in the next 5 minutes.


i,ll ask, are you a muslim first?

I bet he's more loyal to the Qur'an than the US Constitution.

Typical Muslim...typical Turkish Muslim...


Typical xenophobic internet hero.



You really aren't following along too well are you?


I really need to fix my sarcasm sensors
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 5:37:00 PM EDT
Originally Posted By gene5:
troll is troll



Did you even watch the fucking video ?





Link Posted: 8/14/2011 5:38:53 PM EDT
Originally Posted By gene5:
Originally Posted By 36_gauge:
I'm a moderate muslim.

No I didn't click the link.

I'll be taking questions in the next 5 minutes.


i,ll ask, are you a muslim first?


In fairness, we can't fault him for that until we're equally willing to hold people's feet to the fire for considering themselves Christian before they're American. And we have a number of people here that believe that very openly.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 6:28:44 PM EDT
I believe the man speaks the truth.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 6:33:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/14/2011 6:34:23 PM EDT by FightingHellfish]
Originally Posted By 36_gauge:
I'm a moderate muslim.

No I didn't click the link.

I'll be taking questions in the next 5 minutes.


Would you agree that in the traditional understanding, Islam, like Judaism, but unlike Christianity, includes a set and specific body of law?

In other words, Islam is intended to be not just a religion but a social system?
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 6:37:51 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Rogue-Sasquatch:
Originally Posted By gene5:
Originally Posted By 36_gauge:
I'm a moderate muslim.

No I didn't click the link.

I'll be taking questions in the next 5 minutes.


i,ll ask, are you a muslim first?


In fairness, we can't fault him for that until we're equally willing to hold people's feet to the fire for considering themselves Christian before they're American. And we have a number of people here that believe that very openly.


I'm not a Christian, but one of the big advantages of Christianity is that it was,in its early days, the state religion of the Roman Empire. That was a sweet gig, and the early church fathers defined Christianity so as to not step on the toes of the secular state. Christianity might at times have some annoying moralistic tendencies, but the New Testament relieves God of his legal duties.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 7:20:55 PM EDT
My cousins and uncle were as disgusted by 9/11 as I was. They're good people even if I think they're a bit weird. Bought more than a few of my guns from the uncle, no AK's or anything tho.

Of course, I guess they're technically Druze, so maybe that doesn't count.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 7:22:54 PM EDT
Originally Posted By BatchelorGroda:
Moderates = Slackers.


Moderates= Sleepers
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