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Posted: 9/15/2005 5:54:33 PM EDT
Biometrics for your keyboard and mouse....






.. your fingerprint says more than a thousand (pass)words.
Experience the secure feeling that the FingerTIP ID mouse with capacitative fingerprint sensor gives you. A fingerprint decides about access to your computer or company network.


Key benefits:
Optical cable mouse with three buttons and capacitative FingerTIP sensor by Infineon Technologies with long service life
Replacement of arbitrary passwords by finger mark
Entrance protection to the PC and to networks
Manipulation protection thanks to intelligent memory function
short authorization time (less than a second)
includes ID Device Software
Low false acceptance rates thanks to highly-developed, patented recognition algorithms by Siemens
Low false rejection rates thanks to high-quality enrollment and user-friendly software
Adjustable identification (one-to-many) or verification (one-to-one)








Passwords? You can forget them. The FingerTIP ID Board is fitted with an integrated fingerprint sensor - for password-free log-on and identification. This keyboard is also available with optional smart card reader. Connects to the PC via a USB cable. There are also two downstream ports for the connection of additional devices.


Key benefits:
USB keyboard with finger print sensor
Capacitive finger print sensor 513 dpi, 224 x of 288 pixels of Infineon
Replacement of arbitrary passwords by finger mark
Entrance protection to the PC and to networks
USB-Hub with two downstream ports
NTK Technology
includes ID Device Software




Link Posted: 9/15/2005 6:13:18 PM EDT

"No Sir, I don't like it!"
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 6:28:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DzlBenz:
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"No Sir, I don't like it!"



What he said
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 6:29:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FOX-:
Biometrics for your keyboard and mouse....




www.cherry.de/english/biometrics/images/M-4000_de.jpg

.. your fingerprint says more than a thousand (pass)words.
Experience the secure feeling that the FingerTIP ID mouse with capacitative fingerprint sensor gives you. A fingerprint decides about access to your computer or company network.


Key benefits:
Optical cable mouse with three buttons and capacitative FingerTIP sensor by Infineon Technologies with long service life
Replacement of arbitrary passwords by finger mark
Entrance protection to the PC and to networks
Manipulation protection thanks to intelligent memory function
short authorization time (less than a second)
includes ID Device Software
Low false acceptance rates thanks to highly-developed, patented recognition algorithms by Siemens
Low false rejection rates thanks to high-quality enrollment and user-friendly software
Adjustable identification (one-to-many) or verification (one-to-one)






www.cherry.de/english/biometrics/images/G83-14100_de.jpg

Passwords? You can forget them. The FingerTIP ID Board is fitted with an integrated fingerprint sensor - for password-free log-on and identification. This keyboard is also available with optional smart card reader. Connects to the PC via a USB cable. There are also two downstream ports for the connection of additional devices.


Key benefits:
USB keyboard with finger print sensor
Capacitive finger print sensor 513 dpi, 224 x of 288 pixels of Infineon
Replacement of arbitrary passwords by finger mark
Entrance protection to the PC and to networks
USB-Hub with two downstream ports
NTK Technology
includes ID Device Software







Yeah, so? And?
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 6:48:08 PM EDT
I have a thumb print card on my laptop. It keeps honest people out.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 7:56:08 PM EDT
Cool. I'm tired of having strangers breaking into my house and pleasuring themselved to my intetnet porn.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 8:26:40 PM EDT
Only 1 finger? ATF has all of mine.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 8:29:28 PM EDT
Are these vulnerable to the good old jello trick?
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 8:41:30 PM EDT
What is there to be paranoid about? Its good security (far better than passwords) and you (the user) control IF and WHERE the biometric template is stored. Its a commercial product - buy it if you like - don't buy it if you don't want to.

CWO
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 8:46:21 PM EDT
You forgot about the biometric laptop that is constantly advertised as well as a USB finger print sensor that can be plugged in.

Personally, I like it. Better physical security for my equipment.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 8:49:39 PM EDT
im most cases all they do is link your pasword to your fingerprint. l0pht will make mincemeat out of it all the same.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 9:33:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/15/2005 9:34:30 PM EDT by jkstexas2001]
It is still not as secure as the RADIUS security system which generates a six digit password that changes every minute, in synch with a security key-chain fob. You have to enter in the six digit code AND a four digit PIN as a username that you have memorized, to log in. If I wanted to bypass the kind of biometric system that relies on fingerprints, all I'd have to do is kill/incapacitate you and cut off your finger.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 9:55:30 PM EDT
That mouse looks very uncomfortable to hold, almost as bad as Apple's
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 9:56:55 PM EDT
My concern is if the print info goes out over the web. If it does, it's compromised.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 9:58:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By jkstexas2001:
It is still not as secure as the RADIUS security system which generates a six digit password that changes every minute, in synch with a security key-chain fob.




How the hell does that work? How does the fob know what the system code is?

Please 'splain....
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 9:59:03 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Doucheatron3000:
Cool. I'm tired of having strangers breaking into my house and pleasuring themselved to my intetnet porn.



They are already doing that with your WiFi
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 10:00:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By learath:
Are these vulnerable to the good old jello trick?



The cheap ones, like the microsoft ones, yes. Try gummi bears they work best
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 10:01:32 PM EDT
1984 were comin quickly.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 10:06:06 PM EDT
Bio ID security seems like a decent idea for an office or business, also for lap tops. I doubt the price could be justified for a home pc -- dorm room pc, maybe.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 10:15:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/15/2005 10:43:18 PM EDT by jkstexas2001]

Originally Posted By Zaphod:

Originally Posted By jkstexas2001:
It is still not as secure as the RADIUS security system which generates a six digit password that changes every minute, in synch with a security key-chain fob.




How the hell does that work? How does the fob know what the system code is?

Please 'splain....



There are a number of possible implementations, here is an example. At one place I worked, you got assigned a little key-chain fob, which displays a six-digit number which changes every minute. The algorithm which generates the number is synchronized with an algorithm on the authentication or security server which runs RADIUS software and ACE software. When you log in, via VPN or whatever, where you enter your username, and in the password field, you enter a 4 digit PIN you have memorized, plus the number you see on the fob. The VPN server queries the security server, and compares the fob generated number with the number the server generated, for authentication. Another place I worked had you enter the PIN as your username, and the fob number as the password. Even if someone stole your fob, they would not know your PIN number, and could not log in. We had to establish a VPN connection to connect to the server WITHIN the same building, which made it VERY secure.

Fingerprint readers (there are two types of designs that these are based upon) can be compromised if I somehow obtain your finger, and are not as secure as folks would like you to believe. Even retinal scanners can be bypassed if I obtain your eyeball. Biometrics are just a more advanced form of card reader, as far as I am concerned, which can be bypassed if someone steals your card.

ETA:

Here is a document describing a RADIUS / ACE Server implementation using SecureID security fobs

portmasters.com/www.livingston.com/tech/docs/radius/securidconfig.html
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 10:24:50 PM EDT
We had the key fob you describe at Johnson & Johnson back in 2001 or so. We used it to log in to the network from outside the company over a phone line. I always wondered how the hell it worked....

Thanks for the explanation.
Link Posted: 9/15/2005 10:29:01 PM EDT
Car Alarm key fobs work on a similar principle - they generate a code in synch with the parent unit inside the car, which changes after a period of time, so that if someone intercepts the radio signal generated by your keychain fob, and retransmits it, it will do them no good if they are attempting to disable your car alarm or unlock your car.
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