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Posted: 2/25/2016 10:05:06 AM EST
[Last Edit: 2/25/2016 10:07:14 AM EST by Diesel_Maximus_2992]
What do you actually believe trump will accomplish as president
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 10:08:20 AM EST
Piss people off.
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 10:08:44 AM EST
Create threads in GD.
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 10:09:09 AM EST
Piss off GOPe people in GD.
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if only they were jobs
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 10:12:03 AM EST
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The biggest accomplishment will be preventing HRC from setting in that office. And isn't that enough?
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 10:12:09 AM EST
This sums it up nicely:



He is by reflex and instinct a New York Democrat whose formal party affiliation is negotiable, as is everything about him. He has little commitment to anything but himself and his “deals,” none of which will work in favor of conservatives or their priorities.

His judicial appointments will likely be liberal friends from New York. His Great Wall of Mexico will never be built, and employers will go right on hiring cheap labor and outsourcing jobs, just as Trump does with his made-in-Mexico suits. His China Smoot-Hawley Tariff will never be implemented. His administration, led by a vulgar, aging man-child who is firmly pro-abortion, who jokes about having sex with his daughter, and brags about his wealth, will hurt the poorest and most vulnerable among us—including the unborn.

Trump, of course, will dissemble and whine about all these eventual failures. His fans will excuse him, as they do now, but they have short attention spans and will vanish in later midterm elections and future presidential contests. His white nationalist supporters, clinging to him like lice in the fur of an angry chimp, will shake their fists along with him for a time, until they too eventually slink away. By 2020, his core constituency will be a tiny sliver of what’s left of the white working class, pathetically standing at the gates of empty factories they thought Trump would re-open.

More to the point, after four years of thrashing around in the Oval Office like the ignorant boor he is, voters will no longer be able distinguish between the words “Trump,” “Republican,” “conservative,” and “buffoon.” He will obliterate Republicans further down the ticket in 2016 and 2020, smear conservatism as nothing more than his own brand of narcissism, and destroy decades of hard work, including Ronald Reagan’s legacy.



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He'll turn the White House into a casino. It will be the sole source of income for the government for the next 4 years.
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He is by reflex and instinct a New York Democrat whose formal party affiliation is negotiable, as is everything about him. He has little commitment to anything but himself and his “deals,” none of which will work in favor of conservatives or their priorities.

His judicial appointments will likely be liberal friends from New York. His Great Wall of Mexico will never be built, and employers will go right on hiring cheap labor and outsourcing jobs, just as Trump does with his made-in-Mexico suits. His China Smoot-Hawley Tariff will never be implemented. His administration, led by a vulgar, aging man-child who is firmly pro-abortion, who jokes about having sex with his daughter, and brags about his wealth, will hurt the poorest and most vulnerable among us—including the unborn.

Trump, of course, will dissemble and whine about all these eventual failures. His fans will excuse him, as they do now, but they have short attention spans and will vanish in later midterm elections and future presidential contests. His white nationalist supporters, clinging to him like lice in the fur of an angry chimp, will shake their fists along with him for a time, until they too eventually slink away. By 2020, his core constituency will be a tiny sliver of what’s left of the white working class, pathetically standing at the gates of empty factories they thought Trump would re-open.

More to the point, after four years of thrashing around in the Oval Office like the ignorant boor he is, voters will no longer be able distinguish between the words “Trump,” “Republican,” “conservative,” and “buffoon.” He will obliterate Republicans further down the ticket in 2016 and 2020, smear conservatism as nothing more than his own brand of narcissism, and destroy decades of hard work, including Ronald Reagan’s legacy.





Well there's not much more to be said than that. But go ahead guys, vote for him.
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 10:17:16 AM EST
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The biggest accomplishment will be preventing HRC from setting in that office. And isn't that enough?
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What do you actually believe trump will accomplish as president


The biggest accomplishment will be preventing HRC from setting in that office. And isn't that enough?
Not my question, what to you believe trump will actually do as president? It's safe to say !jeb would be a better president than Hillary.. So I'm not sure that would be considered an accomplishment for the Donald...
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You sir, will certainly not be disappointed.
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 10:18:48 AM EST
FGOPe

I expect him to break everything.
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 10:20:01 AM EST
I'd respond but I don't support him
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 10:20:15 AM EST
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This sums it up nicely:



He is by reflex and instinct a New York Democrat whose formal party affiliation is negotiable, as is everything about him. He has little commitment to anything but himself and his “deals,” none of which will work in favor of conservatives or their priorities.

His judicial appointments will likely be liberal friends from New York. His Great Wall of Mexico will never be built, and employers will go right on hiring cheap labor and outsourcing jobs, just as Trump does with his made-in-Mexico suits. His China Smoot-Hawley Tariff will never be implemented. His administration, led by a vulgar, aging man-child who is firmly pro-abortion, who jokes about having sex with his daughter, and brags about his wealth, will hurt the poorest and most vulnerable among us—including the unborn.

Trump, of course, will dissemble and whine about all these eventual failures. His fans will excuse him, as they do now, but they have short attention spans and will vanish in later midterm elections and future presidential contests. His white nationalist supporters, clinging to him like lice in the fur of an angry chimp, will shake their fists along with him for a time, until they too eventually slink away. By 2020, his core constituency will be a tiny sliver of what’s left of the white working class, pathetically standing at the gates of empty factories they thought Trump would re-open.

More to the point, after four years of thrashing around in the Oval Office like the ignorant boor he is, voters will no longer be able distinguish between the words “Trump,” “Republican,” “conservative,” and “buffoon.” He will obliterate Republicans further down the ticket in 2016 and 2020, smear conservatism as nothing more than his own brand of narcissism, and destroy decades of hard work, including Ronald Reagan’s legacy.



Nice job plagiarizing an article called "I’ll take Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump"
http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2016/02/24/ill-take-hillary-clinton-over-donald-trump/


Also the part in bold is a blatant lie from Ted Cruz. Cruz's failing campaign is throwing out lies like this hoping something, anything will stick





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He will finance the operation via loans from investors and banks. Within a few years, he will declare bankruptcy and announce that it was a "terrific success."
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 10:23:19 AM EST
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Nice job plagiarizing an article called "I’ll take Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump"
http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2016/02/24/ill-take-hillary-clinton-over-donald-trump/

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Originally Posted By Cincinnatus:
This sums it up nicely:



He is by reflex and instinct a New York Democrat whose formal party affiliation is negotiable, as is everything about him. He has little commitment to anything but himself and his “deals,” none of which will work in favor of conservatives or their priorities.

His judicial appointments will likely be liberal friends from New York. His Great Wall of Mexico will never be built, and employers will go right on hiring cheap labor and outsourcing jobs, just as Trump does with his made-in-Mexico suits. His China Smoot-Hawley Tariff will never be implemented. His administration, led by a vulgar, aging man-child who is firmly pro-abortion, who jokes about having sex with his daughter, and brags about his wealth, will hurt the poorest and most vulnerable among us—including the unborn.

Trump, of course, will dissemble and whine about all these eventual failures. His fans will excuse him, as they do now, but they have short attention spans and will vanish in later midterm elections and future presidential contests. His white nationalist supporters, clinging to him like lice in the fur of an angry chimp, will shake their fists along with him for a time, until they too eventually slink away. By 2020, his core constituency will be a tiny sliver of what’s left of the white working class, pathetically standing at the gates of empty factories they thought Trump would re-open.

More to the point, after four years of thrashing around in the Oval Office like the ignorant boor he is, voters will no longer be able distinguish between the words “Trump,” “Republican,” “conservative,” and “buffoon.” He will obliterate Republicans further down the ticket in 2016 and 2020, smear conservatism as nothing more than his own brand of narcissism, and destroy decades of hard work, including Ronald Reagan’s legacy.



Nice job plagiarizing an article called "I’ll take Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump"
http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2016/02/24/ill-take-hillary-clinton-over-donald-trump/

It's not plagiarizing, it's a direct quote from a article.



Also the part in bold is a blatant lie from Ted Cruz. Cruz's failing campaign is throwing out lies like this hoping something, anything will stick




Trump is the one lying. You're just gullible.

But I'm not eloquent enough to say it. I'll borrow some more...

Star-struck, low-information celebrity cultists will vote for Trump under any circumstances because they do not know any better and do not care. For them, Trump is whatever they want him to be, and they will never change their minds




Link Posted: 2/25/2016 10:23:41 AM EST
Not be Hillary or Bernie.
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 10:24:23 AM EST
Make the BLM people lose it.
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It's not plagiarizing, it's a direct quote from a article.
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This sums it up nicely:



He is by reflex and instinct a New York Democrat whose formal party affiliation is negotiable, as is everything about him. He has little commitment to anything but himself and his “deals,” none of which will work in favor of conservatives or their priorities.

His judicial appointments will likely be liberal friends from New York. His Great Wall of Mexico will never be built, and employers will go right on hiring cheap labor and outsourcing jobs, just as Trump does with his made-in-Mexico suits. His China Smoot-Hawley Tariff will never be implemented. His administration, led by a vulgar, aging man-child who is firmly pro-abortion, who jokes about having sex with his daughter, and brags about his wealth, will hurt the poorest and most vulnerable among us—including the unborn.

Trump, of course, will dissemble and whine about all these eventual failures. His fans will excuse him, as they do now, but they have short attention spans and will vanish in later midterm elections and future presidential contests. His white nationalist supporters, clinging to him like lice in the fur of an angry chimp, will shake their fists along with him for a time, until they too eventually slink away. By 2020, his core constituency will be a tiny sliver of what’s left of the white working class, pathetically standing at the gates of empty factories they thought Trump would re-open.

More to the point, after four years of thrashing around in the Oval Office like the ignorant boor he is, voters will no longer be able distinguish between the words “Trump,” “Republican,” “conservative,” and “buffoon.” He will obliterate Republicans further down the ticket in 2016 and 2020, smear conservatism as nothing more than his own brand of narcissism, and destroy decades of hard work, including Ronald Reagan’s legacy.



Nice job plagiarizing an article called "I’ll take Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump"
http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2016/02/24/ill-take-hillary-clinton-over-donald-trump/


Also the part in bold is a blatant lie from Ted Cruz. Cruz's failing campaign is throwing out lies like this hoping something, anything will stick




It's not plagiarizing, it's a direct quote from a article.


10) Copyrighted Material must be respected. If you wish to share an article from another site, it's important that you attribute a link to the original site. We will initially issue warnings, but repeat violations will result in your removal from the site. While not a requirement, it is considered a courtesy that you only post a small excerpt of the original article here.

But you didn't want people to see that the article is called "I’ll take Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump"
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 10:26:22 AM EST
He has already destroyed the traditional way the establishment saddles us with their nominee. We want a conservative, we get McCain or Romney. It isn't magic, he simply began his campaign with "Make America Great Again" and close the border. Get the illegal immigrant population under control.

Unfortunately Obama and the republican elite have moved us away from the three branches of government model, so Trump will be able to do whatever he wants (as will any next president).
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 10:26:58 AM EST
Make America great again.
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+1.

I think he's the only candidate that can win against the socialists.
He's anti-establishment so he's bringing in tons of people that wouldn't vote otherwise, like me.
Plus the dems, repubs, and media are all out for blood, so he must be doing something right.
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This.

And he'll likely do as much as any other President does; a fraction of all that they claimed they'll do.
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 10:30:37 AM EST
Keep me swimming in a pool of liberal tears.

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10) Copyrighted Material must be respected. If you wish to share an article from another site, it's important that you attribute a link to the original site. We will initially issue warnings, but repeat violations will result in your removal from the site. While not a requirement, it is considered a courtesy that you only post a small excerpt of the original article here.

But you didn't want people to see that the article is called "I’ll take Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump"
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Originally Posted By Cincinnatus:
This sums it up nicely:



He is by reflex and instinct a New York Democrat whose formal party affiliation is negotiable, as is everything about him. He has little commitment to anything but himself and his “deals,” none of which will work in favor of conservatives or their priorities.

His judicial appointments will likely be liberal friends from New York. His Great Wall of Mexico will never be built, and employers will go right on hiring cheap labor and outsourcing jobs, just as Trump does with his made-in-Mexico suits. His China Smoot-Hawley Tariff will never be implemented. His administration, led by a vulgar, aging man-child who is firmly pro-abortion, who jokes about having sex with his daughter, and brags about his wealth, will hurt the poorest and most vulnerable among us—including the unborn.

Trump, of course, will dissemble and whine about all these eventual failures. His fans will excuse him, as they do now, but they have short attention spans and will vanish in later midterm elections and future presidential contests. His white nationalist supporters, clinging to him like lice in the fur of an angry chimp, will shake their fists along with him for a time, until they too eventually slink away. By 2020, his core constituency will be a tiny sliver of what’s left of the white working class, pathetically standing at the gates of empty factories they thought Trump would re-open.

More to the point, after four years of thrashing around in the Oval Office like the ignorant boor he is, voters will no longer be able distinguish between the words “Trump,” “Republican,” “conservative,” and “buffoon.” He will obliterate Republicans further down the ticket in 2016 and 2020, smear conservatism as nothing more than his own brand of narcissism, and destroy decades of hard work, including Ronald Reagan’s legacy.



Nice job plagiarizing an article called "I’ll take Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump"
http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2016/02/24/ill-take-hillary-clinton-over-donald-trump/


Also the part in bold is a blatant lie from Ted Cruz. Cruz's failing campaign is throwing out lies like this hoping something, anything will stick




It's not plagiarizing, it's a direct quote from a article.


10) Copyrighted Material must be respected. If you wish to share an article from another site, it's important that you attribute a link to the original site. We will initially issue warnings, but repeat violations will result in your removal from the site. While not a requirement, it is considered a courtesy that you only post a small excerpt of the original article here.

But you didn't want people to see that the article is called "I’ll take Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump"


Damn those liberal Federalists!

Did you read the article?
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 10:33:22 AM EST
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Hell, Obama already did that, what else would he do?
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After 8 years of an American hating radical Leftist Muslim sympathizer Trump is a breath of fresh air.
& what other choices is the GOP offering? Man Child Rino Rubio? or Canadian Cruz?
And I'd vote for my Bichon Frise before voting for Hildabeast
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Doubtful. He probably only read the snippet posted to Hotair, not the full article.
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He is by reflex and instinct a New York Democrat whose formal party affiliation is negotiable, as is everything about him. He has little commitment to anything but himself and his “deals,” none of which will work in favor of conservatives or their priorities.

His judicial appointments will likely be liberal friends from New York. His Great Wall of Mexico will never be built, and employers will go right on hiring cheap labor and outsourcing jobs, just as Trump does with his made-in-Mexico suits. His China Smoot-Hawley Tariff will never be implemented. His administration, led by a vulgar, aging man-child who is firmly pro-abortion, who jokes about having sex with his daughter, and brags about his wealth, will hurt the poorest and most vulnerable among us—including the unborn.

Trump, of course, will dissemble and whine about all these eventual failures. His fans will excuse him, as they do now, but they have short attention spans and will vanish in later midterm elections and future presidential contests. His white nationalist supporters, clinging to him like lice in the fur of an angry chimp, will shake their fists along with him for a time, until they too eventually slink away. By 2020, his core constituency will be a tiny sliver of what’s left of the white working class, pathetically standing at the gates of empty factories they thought Trump would re-open.

More to the point, after four years of thrashing around in the Oval Office like the ignorant boor he is, voters will no longer be able distinguish between the words “Trump,” “Republican,” “conservative,” and “buffoon.” He will obliterate Republicans further down the ticket in 2016 and 2020, smear conservatism as nothing more than his own brand of narcissism, and destroy decades of hard work, including Ronald Reagan’s legacy.





Who authored that? It's profoundly prophetic.
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That he would, beyond that who knows want the head case would come up with.
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 10:37:35 AM EST
Hes going to start World War 3. The world is going to hell one way or another, why not get it done and over with sooner than later
Link Posted: 2/25/2016 10:38:47 AM EST
I think he can stop the hemmoraging of debt. That's what the country produces the most of. We HAVE to stop spending money we don't have. As of today we are 19 trillion dollars in debt and have over 100 trillion dollars in unfunded liabilities to pay for. The debt, we might be able to pay down. The unfunded liabilities, sorry you people that were promised free shit are screwed. We cannot keep electing politicians expecting a different outcome. If he accomplishes a balanced budget and that alone, it's a step in the right direction.

http://demonocracy.info/infographics/usa/us_debt/us_debt.html
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He is by reflex and instinct a New York Democrat whose formal party affiliation is negotiable, as is everything about him. He has little commitment to anything but himself and his “deals,” none of which will work in favor of conservatives or their priorities.

His judicial appointments will likely be liberal friends from New York. His Great Wall of Mexico will never be built, and employers will go right on hiring cheap labor and outsourcing jobs, just as Trump does with his made-in-Mexico suits. His China Smoot-Hawley Tariff will never be implemented. His administration, led by a vulgar, aging man-child who is firmly pro-abortion, who jokes about having sex with his daughter, and brags about his wealth, will hurt the poorest and most vulnerable among us—including the unborn.

Trump, of course, will dissemble and whine about all these eventual failures. His fans will excuse him, as they do now, but they have short attention spans and will vanish in later midterm elections and future presidential contests. His white nationalist supporters, clinging to him like lice in the fur of an angry chimp, will shake their fists along with him for a time, until they too eventually slink away. By 2020, his core constituency will be a tiny sliver of what’s left of the white working class, pathetically standing at the gates of empty factories they thought Trump would re-open.

More to the point, after four years of thrashing around in the Oval Office like the ignorant boor he is, voters will no longer be able distinguish between the words “Trump,” “Republican,” “conservative,” and “buffoon.” He will obliterate Republicans further down the ticket in 2016 and 2020, smear conservatism as nothing more than his own brand of narcissism, and destroy decades of hard work, including Ronald Reagan’s legacy.




I doubt he will spend much time in the WH, too confining, too plebeian for the Donald, he'll probably move his operations to NYC..........you know for convenience, closer to the heart of business, the center of the world.
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Who authored that? It's profoundly prophetic.


http://thefederalist.com/2016/02/24/ill-take-hillary-clinton-over-donald-trump/

Tom Nichols is a professor of national security affairs at the U.S. Naval War College


Here's the whole thing (not as much on topic as the quote I selected):



Donald Trump could end up being the Republican nominee, and the idea fills many conservatives (like me) with despair. By “conservatives,” I mean actual conservatives, the people who believe in limited government, a strong national defense, American federalism, and who reject the nanny state in all of its smothering incarnations. Put another way, I mean: people who are not liberals, like Donald Trump.

Star-struck, low-information celebrity cultists will vote for Trump under any circumstances because they do not know any better and do not care. For them, Trump is whatever they want him to be, and they will never change their minds. The rest of us, however, have a much more difficult choice to make. Will we really oppose Trump to the point of accepting any alternative, including Hillary Clinton?

The answer, at least for me, is: Yes. If forced into a choice between Clinton and Trump, I will prefer Hillary Clinton. The future of the entire conservative movement is at stake, and a Clinton victory over Trump might be the only hope of saving it.

The Hamilton Rule

A few years ago, The Federalist’s publisher, Ben Domenech, suggested that conservatives consider dumping the “Buckley Rule,” the late William F. Buckley’s admonition always to choose the most conservative candidate who can win. As Ben pointed out, things have changed since Buckley first issued this advice, including that the elite determination of “who can win” is often flawed. The Buckley Rule, for example, might have led to supporting Charlie Crist—you may shudder at will—instead of Marco Rubio in the 2010 Florida Senate race.

In its place, Ben raised the possibility of a “Hamilton Rule,” named after Alexander Hamilton. Although both were Federalists, Hamilton despised John Adams and his coterie among his own party to the point where he was willing to lose the election of 1800. “If we must have an enemy at the head of government,” Hamilton said in exasperation, “let it be one whom we can oppose, and for whom we are not responsible.”

In other words: Better to lose to a true enemy whose policies you can fight and repudiate, rather than to a false friend whose schemes will drag you down with him. This is a painful choice, but it also embraces realism while protecting the possibility of recovery in the future. The need to live to fight another day is why conservatives should adopt a Hamilton Rule if, God forbid, the choice comes down to Hillary and Trump.

Hillary Clinton Is Despicable, But Trump Is Worse

My hands almost could not type those words, because I think Hillary Clinton is one of the worst human beings in American politics. She has few principles that I can discern, other than her firm conviction that she deserves the Oval Office for enabling and then defending her sexually neurotic husband. She lies as easily as the rest of us breathe. She has compromised national security through sheer laziness at best, and corrupt intent at worst. If elected, she will enrich Wall Street and raid the public coffers while preaching hateful doctrines of identity politics to distract America’s poor and working classes.

Morally unmoored, emotionally unstable, a crony capitalist of the worst kind, Trump will be every bit as liberal as Hillary.

But Trump will be worse. Morally unmoored, emotionally unstable, a crony capitalist of the worst kind, Trump will be every bit as liberal as Hillary—perhaps more so, given his statements over the years. He is by reflex and instinct a New York Democrat whose formal party affiliation is negotiable, as is everything about him. He has little commitment to anything but himself and his “deals,” none of which will work in favor of conservatives or their priorities.

His judicial appointments will likely be liberal friends from New York. His Great Wall of Mexico will never be built, and employers will go right on hiring cheap labor and outsourcing jobs, just as Trump does with his made-in-Mexico suits. His China Smoot-Hawley Tariff will never be implemented. His administration, led by a vulgar, aging man-child who is firmly pro-abortion, who jokes about having sex with his daughter, and brags about his wealth, will hurt the poorest and most vulnerable among us—including the unborn.

Trump Will Tar Conservatives Forever


Trump, of course, will dissemble and whine about all these eventual failures. His fans will excuse him, as they do now, but they have short attention spans and will vanish in later midterm elections and future presidential contests. His white nationalist supporters, clinging to him like lice in the fur of an angry chimp, will shake their fists along with him for a time, until they too eventually slink away. By 2020, his core constituency will be a tiny sliver of what’s left of the white working class, pathetically standing at the gates of empty factories they thought Trump would re-open.

Conservatives can recover from four, or even eight, years of Hillary Clinton. We might even flourish.

More to the point, after four years of thrashing around in the Oval Office like the ignorant boor he is, voters will no longer be able distinguish between the words “Trump,” “Republican,” “conservative,” and “buffoon.” He will obliterate Republicans further down the ticket in 2016 and 2020, smear conservatism as nothing more than his own brand of narcissism, and destroy decades of hard work, including Ronald Reagan’s legacy.

Conservatives can recover from four, or even eight, years of Hillary Clinton. We might even flourish: remember, President Obama’s cult of personality—to which Trump’s mindless fan base bears more than a little resemblance—sacrificed more than 900 Democratic seats and a passel of governorships on its altar over the past seven years. President Obama won two elections and the Democratic Party lost hundreds. If Trump’s victory means this kind of “winning,” conservatives should want no part of it.

Our Long-Awaited Goal Was Right There for Us

In the end, a Trump administration will not only avert the first chance at unified Republican government in years, but will finish off the conservative movement itself. Indeed, it is a bitter irony that some of Trump’s blind followers are willing to declare defeat at the moment of impending victory, when a complete GOP takeover of all elected branches could finally overcome the obstruction of divided government. Trump’s voters are willing to “shake up the status quo”—whatever that means—by putting an ignoramus at the head of a party and a movement he’s actually trying to destroy.

In pulling down the GOP, Trump will take conservatism with it.

And destroy it he will. If Trump is at the top of the ticket, Republicans will likely lose the Senate, but that pales in comparison to the overall discrediting of conservatism that will follow. In pulling down the GOP, Trump will take conservatism with it, and enshrine 30 or 40 more years of liberal dominance, beginning with his own liberal administration.

Again, cruel ironies will abound, as working-class whites in the Rust Belt and heartland who thought they were finally getting control of the government will find that a liberal coastal billionaire has actually frozen them out of it for the rest of their lifetimes, and maybe their children’s lifetimes, as well.

All of this will happen merely because Trump has chosen to identify himself as a Republican as a matter of egotistical convenience this time around. Conservatives and Republicans should be having none of it, which is why I intend to observe the Hamilton Rule should all this come to pass. It is time to think beyond Trump’s possible election and to take steps to protect conservatism as a movement capable of opposing liberalism long after Trump is gone.

It is precisely to protect the viability of the conservative movement that I will stand aside and accept that, if all else fails, Hillary must beat The Donald.





I would never, under any circumstances vote for a Democrat, and certainly not for Hillary or Trump.

But from a cold analytic perspective, the article is correct in how it measures what is best for the future of Constitutional Conservatism.







Link Posted: 2/25/2016 10:41:29 AM EST
Piss of a lot of globalist traitors.
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But you didn't want people to see that the article is called "I’ll take Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump"
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This sums it up nicely:



He is by reflex and instinct a New York Democrat whose formal party affiliation is negotiable, as is everything about him. He has little commitment to anything but himself and his “deals,” none of which will work in favor of conservatives or their priorities.

His judicial appointments will likely be liberal friends from New York. His Great Wall of Mexico will never be built, and employers will go right on hiring cheap labor and outsourcing jobs, just as Trump does with his made-in-Mexico suits. His China Smoot-Hawley Tariff will never be implemented. His administration, led by a vulgar, aging man-child who is firmly pro-abortion, who jokes about having sex with his daughter, and brags about his wealth, will hurt the poorest and most vulnerable among us—including the unborn.

Trump, of course, will dissemble and whine about all these eventual failures. His fans will excuse him, as they do now, but they have short attention spans and will vanish in later midterm elections and future presidential contests. His white nationalist supporters, clinging to him like lice in the fur of an angry chimp, will shake their fists along with him for a time, until they too eventually slink away. By 2020, his core constituency will be a tiny sliver of what’s left of the white working class, pathetically standing at the gates of empty factories they thought Trump would re-open.

More to the point, after four years of thrashing around in the Oval Office like the ignorant boor he is, voters will no longer be able distinguish between the words “Trump,” “Republican,” “conservative,” and “buffoon.” He will obliterate Republicans further down the ticket in 2016 and 2020, smear conservatism as nothing more than his own brand of narcissism, and destroy decades of hard work, including Ronald Reagan’s legacy.



Nice job plagiarizing an article called "I’ll take Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump"
http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2016/02/24/ill-take-hillary-clinton-over-donald-trump/


Also the part in bold is a blatant lie from Ted Cruz. Cruz's failing campaign is throwing out lies like this hoping something, anything will stick




It's not plagiarizing, it's a direct quote from a article.


10) Copyrighted Material must be respected. If you wish to share an article from another site, it's important that you attribute a link to the original site. We will initially issue warnings, but repeat violations will result in your removal from the site. While not a requirement, it is considered a courtesy that you only post a small excerpt of the original article here.

But you didn't want people to see that the article is called "I’ll take Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump"

You never attributed your Triceratops story to Michael Crichton.

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That would be great if he pisses a lot of supposedly important people off, as in vast quantities of pissed off Americans. People need to be pissed off to the point that they have to use plain language again, instead of this hesitant, policy and interest group manner of speech.

Another good outcome is that if he fails, conservatives will still be able to point to government and say that a real conservative needs to be elected. And speaking of language, we need to change language back and elect Classical Liberals.
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This sums it up nicely:

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This sums it up nicely:



He is by reflex and instinct a New York Democrat whose formal party affiliation is negotiable, as is everything about him. He has little commitment to anything but himself and his "deals,” none of which will work in favor of conservatives or their priorities.

His judicial appointments will likely be liberal friends from New York. His Great Wall of Mexico will never be built, and employers will go right on hiring cheap labor and outsourcing jobs, just as Trump does with his made-in-Mexico suits. His China Smoot-Hawley Tariff will never be implemented. His administration, led by a vulgar, aging man-child who is firmly pro-abortion, who jokes about having sex with his daughter, and brags about his wealth, will hurt the poorest and most vulnerable among us—including the unborn.

Trump, of course, will dissemble and whine about all these eventual failures. His fans will excuse him, as they do now, but they have short attention spans and will vanish in later midterm elections and future presidential contests. His white nationalist supporters, clinging to him like lice in the fur of an angry chimp, will shake their fists along with him for a time, until they too eventually slink away. By 2020, his core constituency will be a tiny sliver of what’s left of the white working class, pathetically standing at the gates of empty factories they thought Trump would re-open.

More to the point, after four years of thrashing around in the Oval Office like the ignorant boor he is, voters will no longer be able distinguish between the words "Trump,” "Republican,” "conservative,” and "buffoon.” He will obliterate Republicans further down the ticket in 2016 and 2020, smear conservatism as nothing more than his own brand of narcissism, and destroy decades of hard work, including Ronald Reagan’s legacy.



Plagiarism should be a bannable offense on ARFCOM.

You used some one else's intellectual property, didn't credit the author, thus implying
it is your work.
That is contemptible.
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1) obongo and the first wookie will be gone.

2) I will support the Republican nominee

What will Trump accomplish? Who knows? What other than the further destruction of the Country and Constitution has the current sitting asshole in office accomplished.
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Plagiarism should be a bannable offense on ARFCOM.

You used some one else's intellectual property, didn't credit the author, thus implying
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That is contemptible.
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Originally Posted By Cincinnatus:
This sums it up nicely:



He is by reflex and instinct a New York Democrat whose formal party affiliation is negotiable, as is everything about him. He has little commitment to anything but himself and his "deals,” none of which will work in favor of conservatives or their priorities.

His judicial appointments will likely be liberal friends from New York. His Great Wall of Mexico will never be built, and employers will go right on hiring cheap labor and outsourcing jobs, just as Trump does with his made-in-Mexico suits. His China Smoot-Hawley Tariff will never be implemented. His administration, led by a vulgar, aging man-child who is firmly pro-abortion, who jokes about having sex with his daughter, and brags about his wealth, will hurt the poorest and most vulnerable among us—including the unborn.

Trump, of course, will dissemble and whine about all these eventual failures. His fans will excuse him, as they do now, but they have short attention spans and will vanish in later midterm elections and future presidential contests. His white nationalist supporters, clinging to him like lice in the fur of an angry chimp, will shake their fists along with him for a time, until they too eventually slink away. By 2020, his core constituency will be a tiny sliver of what’s left of the white working class, pathetically standing at the gates of empty factories they thought Trump would re-open.

More to the point, after four years of thrashing around in the Oval Office like the ignorant boor he is, voters will no longer be able distinguish between the words "Trump,” "Republican,” "conservative,” and "buffoon.” He will obliterate Republicans further down the ticket in 2016 and 2020, smear conservatism as nothing more than his own brand of narcissism, and destroy decades of hard work, including Ronald Reagan’s legacy.



Plagiarism should be a bannable offense on ARFCOM.

You used some one else's intellectual property, didn't credit the author, thus implying
it is your work.
That is contemptible.


There is something going on with the Cruz campaign that will be studied for some time to come.

Its not only Cruz, but his staffers, and even supporters that seem to engage in shady, and in some cases, illegal behavior on behalf of Cruz. All the while he purports to be the most bible-based candidate.

With this article he violated COC #10 to hide the fact the title was supporting Hillary, but the article itself also contains blatant lies stated as fact.
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My prediction is Trump supporters will not own his fuckups. The mantra will be "I didn't vote for any policies,I voted to shake up the system and he has. Look at how mad everyone is at him now".
If,and I don't think he can,is able to beat Clinton then I would expect Congress to be lost in 2018.
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Originally Posted By Cincinnatus:
This sums it up nicely:



He is by reflex and instinct a New York Democrat whose formal party affiliation is negotiable, as is everything about him. He has little commitment to anything but himself and his "deals,” none of which will work in favor of conservatives or their priorities.

His judicial appointments will likely be liberal friends from New York. His Great Wall of Mexico will never be built, and employers will go right on hiring cheap labor and outsourcing jobs, just as Trump does with his made-in-Mexico suits. His China Smoot-Hawley Tariff will never be implemented. His administration, led by a vulgar, aging man-child who is firmly pro-abortion, who jokes about having sex with his daughter, and brags about his wealth, will hurt the poorest and most vulnerable among us—including the unborn.

Trump, of course, will dissemble and whine about all these eventual failures. His fans will excuse him, as they do now, but they have short attention spans and will vanish in later midterm elections and future presidential contests. His white nationalist supporters, clinging to him like lice in the fur of an angry chimp, will shake their fists along with him for a time, until they too eventually slink away. By 2020, his core constituency will be a tiny sliver of what’s left of the white working class, pathetically standing at the gates of empty factories they thought Trump would re-open.

More to the point, after four years of thrashing around in the Oval Office like the ignorant boor he is, voters will no longer be able distinguish between the words "Trump,” "Republican,” "conservative,” and "buffoon.” He will obliterate Republicans further down the ticket in 2016 and 2020, smear conservatism as nothing more than his own brand of narcissism, and destroy decades of hard work, including Ronald Reagan’s legacy.



Plagiarism should be a bannable offense on ARFCOM.

You used some one else's intellectual property, didn't credit the author, thus implying
it is your work.
That is contemptible.




I said "this sums it up nicely:" and then put it in a separate "Quote Box" from the rest of my post ...why? To suggest that I was the author?

You guys are pathetic.
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id vote for trump if he just promised to spend his entire term, removing, and destroying everything obama, and the gov did during the last 8 years. even if he had to revoke all the pardons obama will give out before he leaves to do it.... ....... obamacare, new epa regs, new atf rules, prosecute everyone in gov for fast n furious, bengazi, enfore the fuck out of immigration laws, deport the fuck out of illegals, etc....put hillary in prison.... id be super happy if he just made it possible to punish all the traitors we have running around.. hillary, eric holder, etc, etc, if he was just able to roll everything back to 2008 id be EXTREMELY happy.
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I said "this sums it up nicely" and then put it in a "Quote Box" ...why? To suggest that I was the author?

You guys are pathetic.
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Originally Posted By Cincinnatus:
This sums it up nicely:



He is by reflex and instinct a New York Democrat whose formal party affiliation is negotiable, as is everything about him. He has little commitment to anything but himself and his "deals,” none of which will work in favor of conservatives or their priorities.

His judicial appointments will likely be liberal friends from New York. His Great Wall of Mexico will never be built, and employers will go right on hiring cheap labor and outsourcing jobs, just as Trump does with his made-in-Mexico suits. His China Smoot-Hawley Tariff will never be implemented. His administration, led by a vulgar, aging man-child who is firmly pro-abortion, who jokes about having sex with his daughter, and brags about his wealth, will hurt the poorest and most vulnerable among us—including the unborn.

Trump, of course, will dissemble and whine about all these eventual failures. His fans will excuse him, as they do now, but they have short attention spans and will vanish in later midterm elections and future presidential contests. His white nationalist supporters, clinging to him like lice in the fur of an angry chimp, will shake their fists along with him for a time, until they too eventually slink away. By 2020, his core constituency will be a tiny sliver of what’s left of the white working class, pathetically standing at the gates of empty factories they thought Trump would re-open.

More to the point, after four years of thrashing around in the Oval Office like the ignorant boor he is, voters will no longer be able distinguish between the words "Trump,” "Republican,” "conservative,” and "buffoon.” He will obliterate Republicans further down the ticket in 2016 and 2020, smear conservatism as nothing more than his own brand of narcissism, and destroy decades of hard work, including Ronald Reagan’s legacy.



Plagiarism should be a bannable offense on ARFCOM.

You used some one else's intellectual property, didn't credit the author, thus implying
it is your work.
That is contemptible.




I said "this sums it up nicely" and then put it in a "Quote Box" ...why? To suggest that I was the author?

You guys are pathetic.


But you didn't link to it or even name the author. Go read COC #10
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About as much as any other president. They say a lot of shit to get elected but none of it is actually ever done. I'm really having a hard time understanding the hate for Trump. He's no different than any other talking head politician.

I guess your question could be asked for any other candidate as well.

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See, Trump is no different a candidate than anyone else. Big fucking deal, he's been a businessman. Bernie has been an unemployed twat, Hillery is a criminal, Cruz is Canadian, Kasich is a liberal cunt, and Rubio is Mexican.
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But you didn't link to it or even name the author. Go read COC #10
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I said "this sums it up nicely" and then put it in a "Quote Box" ...why? To suggest that I was the author?

You guys are pathetic.


But you didn't link to it or even name the author. Go read COC #10


Oh, please. For specifically quoting something that was easily googled and in no way obscured or altered, AND putting it in a separate quote box, distinct and separate for my own words?

Your whining is SO fucking LAME.

Please, by all means report my terrible COC violation. Please do it. That seems to be exactly who you are, so don't let me stand in the way of you highlighting that fact.



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But you didn't link to it or even name the author. Go read COC #10
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Originally Posted By Londo:
Originally Posted By Cincinnatus:
This sums it up nicely:



He is by reflex and instinct a New York Democrat whose formal party affiliation is negotiable, as is everything about him. He has little commitment to anything but himself and his "deals,” none of which will work in favor of conservatives or their priorities.

His judicial appointments will likely be liberal friends from New York. His Great Wall of Mexico will never be built, and employers will go right on hiring cheap labor and outsourcing jobs, just as Trump does with his made-in-Mexico suits. His China Smoot-Hawley Tariff will never be implemented. His administration, led by a vulgar, aging man-child who is firmly pro-abortion, who jokes about having sex with his daughter, and brags about his wealth, will hurt the poorest and most vulnerable among us—including the unborn.

Trump, of course, will dissemble and whine about all these eventual failures. His fans will excuse him, as they do now, but they have short attention spans and will vanish in later midterm elections and future presidential contests. His white nationalist supporters, clinging to him like lice in the fur of an angry chimp, will shake their fists along with him for a time, until they too eventually slink away. By 2020, his core constituency will be a tiny sliver of what’s left of the white working class, pathetically standing at the gates of empty factories they thought Trump would re-open.

More to the point, after four years of thrashing around in the Oval Office like the ignorant boor he is, voters will no longer be able distinguish between the words "Trump,” "Republican,” "conservative,” and "buffoon.” He will obliterate Republicans further down the ticket in 2016 and 2020, smear conservatism as nothing more than his own brand of narcissism, and destroy decades of hard work, including Ronald Reagan’s legacy.



Plagiarism should be a bannable offense on ARFCOM.

You used some one else's intellectual property, didn't credit the author, thus implying
it is your work.
That is contemptible.




I said "this sums it up nicely" and then put it in a "Quote Box" ...why? To suggest that I was the author?

You guys are pathetic.


But you didn't link to it or even name the author. Go read COC #10


Report him then if it bothers you that much.

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About as much as any other president. They say a lot of shit to get elected but none of it is actually ever done. I'm really having a hard time understanding the hate for Trump. He's no different than any other talking head politician.

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I love how the Trump haters think there guy is telling the truth.
I would prefer Paul or Cruz but I sure as hell don't give a shit about the lying pieces of shit that have become the GOPe.
They are all full of shit and I have zero confidence in the government at any level at this point.
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