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Posted: 5/22/2005 5:46:14 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/22/2005 5:47:26 AM EST by lippo]
[some people here]"I drive a Toyota. I'll never buy an American car!"[sound of cutting of own throat and shredding of Bill of Rights]


BUY AMERICAN!!!

biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050513/clf054.html?.v=5



Press Release Source: Toyota Motor Sales, U.S.A., Inc.


Toyota Awards $1.12 Million in Scholarships to 100 High School Seniors
Friday May 13, 7:00 pm ET
Winners at top of class in both academics and community service


LOUISVILLE, Ky., May 13 /PRNewswire/ -- Toyota Motor Sales, U.S.A., Inc., (TMS) rewarded 100 high school seniors with $1.12 million in college scholarships for their commitment to education and community service at an awards banquet tonight.

The winners, who make up the ninth class of Toyota Community Scholars, were chosen from a pool of nearly 10,000 students nationwide nominated by their schools. To be eligible, students must be proven leaders both in the classroom and in their communities.

Based on the countless service projects conducted by the 2005 class, it is clear these 100 students view community service not as an obligation, but a way of life. As one Scholar, Lucia Crenshaw of Memphis, Tenn., put it: "I have found that I am happiest when I am helping others. Although I don't know where I am going or exactly what I am going to do, I do know my community- service involvement will carry on throughout my life."

For the 2005 class, their dreams of making a difference became reality through programs ranging from building "asthma-friendly" rooms for children in homeless shelters, to collecting over 12,500 care-package items for military troops, to raising over $150,000 for cancer-stricken children.

"These students reflect everything that is good about America. Their dedication both to academics and community service is an inspiration to all of us," said Michael Rouse, TMS corporate manager of philanthropy and community affairs. "We are proud to honor and salute 100 of the future leaders of this country."

The scholarships are valued at $20,000 or $10,000 each, over four years, for study at a four-year college or university starting in the fall of 2005. Since the Toyota Community Scholars program began in 1997, TMS has awarded over $10 million in scholarships to 900 students across the U.S.

Theodoros Milonopoulos, a Toyota Community Scholar residing in Los Angeles, is a prime example of the dedication to community service exhibited by this year's class. Through his leadership and effort in the area of gun control, the City of Los Angeles banned .50 caliber sniper rifles, plus reauthorized the Federal Assault Weapons Ban. Also, this Scholar - along with the Los Angeles Police Department - organized a rally where 2,000 crime guns were melted down.

Consequently, Milonopoulos, like many of the Scholars, found community service to be the roadmap to what he wants to do in the future. "I plan to become a lawyer after studying constitutional law. It is my dream to serve in Congress so that I can continue to be the voice for our nation's youth." (Sounds just like a democrat, "Do it for the children")

The Toyota Community Scholars program is administered by Educational Testing Services in Princeton, N.J. The 12 national winners ($20,000 each) and 88 regional winners ($10,000 each) were selected by a panel of college and university admissions officials from across the U.S.

The scholarship winners were guests of honor tonight at an awards banquet in Louisville that was attended by education, community, business and government leaders. Actor/writer/community activist George Takei - who portrayed Mr. Sulu in the television show Star Trek - was the featured speaker.

The two-and-a-half-day program included a tour of Toyota Motor Manufacturing, Kentucky, Inc., in Georgetown, which builds the Camry, Avalon and Solara vehicles. In addition, the Scholars cruised the Ohio River on the Belle of Louisville (a historic paddle wheeler), as well as participated in a "ride and drive" that put them behind the wheel of three Toyota vehicles: the Scion xA, xB, and tC.

Toyota Motor Sales (TMS), U.S.A., Inc. is the marketing, sales, distribution and customer service arm of Toyota, Lexus and Scion in the United States, marketing products and services through a network of 1,415 Toyota, Lexus and Scion dealers in 49 states. Established in 1957, TMS and its subsidiaries also are involved in distribution logistics, motor sports, R&D and general aviation. The company's main website is www.toyota.com .


Link Posted: 5/22/2005 5:47:54 AM EST
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 5:49:29 AM EST
Aren't the auto makers multi-national corporations now? I thought that GM owned 51% of Toyota. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 5:57:23 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/22/2005 5:59:09 AM EST by Aimless]
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 6:03:50 AM EST
I'm getting the new FJ Cruiser when it comes out next year. If it is delayed, I'll get the Taco to replace my 1993 toy pickup.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 6:06:33 AM EST

Originally Posted By Aimless:
My american cars fell apart, my japanese cars have not; tell Toyota whatcha think of them.



+1

When American cars start thinking of quality... I'll start buying them.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 6:15:38 AM EST
My wife has always bought Toyotas...we love our Matrix...when Ford or GM makes a car as nice and reliable as a Toyota, I'll buy it...BTW, many Toyotas are built right here in the USA, creating tens of thousands of good-paying jobs.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 6:25:30 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/22/2005 6:28:08 AM EST by CavVet]
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 6:29:01 AM EST

Originally Posted By CavVet:
Toyota (Japan) reports record profits.


US record trade deficit






Build a better mousetrap...or car...
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 6:36:49 AM EST

Originally Posted By IamtheNRA:

Originally Posted By CavVet:
Toyota (Japan) reports record profits.


US record trade deficit






Build a better mousetrap...or car...





Link Posted: 5/22/2005 6:42:57 AM EST

Originally Posted By IamtheNRA:
My wife has always bought Toyotas...we love our Matrix...when Ford or GM makes a car as nice and reliable as a Toyota, I'll buy it...BTW, many Toyotas are built right here in the USA, creating tens of thousands of good-paying jobs.



I'm glad you love your Matrix since the car is a GM / Toyota venture built in the GM Nummi plant in California. Should have just bought a Pontiac Vibe and you could have been a psuedo American since you had the Pontiac name on your car.

You guys that are bashing GM and the other 2 of the big three need to quit living in the 70's and 80's. GM just got a shitload of awards from JD power and associates for quality. You can talk all the shit you want and call the big three cars crap. I'm sure you'll enjoy it when they go bankrupt from asshats that think "My hyundai is the best car out there". You'll also enjoy the huge impact on the economy it has. Enjoy that Toyota you drive. Just remember this. When Japan was our enemy and killing our fellow americans, (your Grandparents, Fathers, Brothers,ect.) GM was making the aircraft and weapons to help save our ass.

Kris
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 6:48:05 AM EST
If I read correctly, these scholarship aplicants were "nominated" by their faculty leaders, and the winners only selected out of what, 10,000 aplicants? Do you honestly think Toyota corporate evaluated all 10,000 aplicants baised on their stance for or againts gun control?

The news article was written by a liberal in the media.

The aplicants were recomended by teachers in the public school system (predominately liberal).

What, you need a calculator to figure this out? If the only choices sent to Toyota for their scholarship program were those picked out by the school teachers and principals then Toyota didn't have much to pick from, did they? Did anybody check the other 99 winners to see if ANY of them were pro-gun? Were any of them Jewish/Black/Mexican/Democrats/Republicans/Canadian/Catholic/Worked for fast food industry? Do you honestly think the Board of Directors at Toyota knows or even cares about the political ideals of these kids? They were just throwing a public relations bone out to the masses, and predictably a few dogs looking for a hand out got some.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 6:50:28 AM EST
I've had good luck with Toyota's and Dodge's. Besides the tranny in my Spirit blowing up, it's been a pretty good car. It's not Toyota quality (like my corolla), but for what it is, it's been a good vehicle for me. ...............K cars rule!!!!!!

vmax84
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 6:59:26 AM EST
Toyota looks like the good guys here.

Don't blame them for the socialist indoctrination used in the kalifornia school system.

It is a far cry better, even if they were directly responsible (which they were not according to the article), than the UAW and the money they give to the DNC socialists.

THEY are the ones who are the real threat to our freedoms.

Kalifornia is a waste of beautiful landscape and the people who live there and support its policies have brain cancer.
Toyota looks like the good guys here.

Don't blame them for the socialist indoctrination used in the kalifornia school system.

It is a far cry better, even if they were directly responsible (which they were not according to the article), than the UAW and the money they give to the DNC socialists.

THEY are the ones who are the real threat to our freedoms.

Kalifornia is a waste of beautiful landscape and the people who live there and support its policies have brain cancer.


I'll never buy another UAW produced automobile again. Been burned too many times.

-LS
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 7:01:36 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/22/2005 7:02:15 AM EST by warlord]

Originally Posted By shop_rat45:

Originally Posted By IamtheNRA:
My wife has always bought Toyotas...we love our Matrix...when Ford or GM makes a car as nice and reliable as a Toyota, I'll buy it...BTW, many Toyotas are built right here in the USA, creating tens of thousands of good-paying jobs.



I'm glad you love your Matrix since the car is a GM / Toyota venture built in the GM Nummi plant in California. Should have just bought a Pontiac Vibe and you could have been a psuedo American since you had the Pontiac name on your car.

You guys that are bashing GM and the other 2 of the big three need to quit living in the 70's and 80's. GM just got a shitload of awards from JD power and associates for quality. You can talk all the shit you want and call the big three cars crap. I'm sure you'll enjoy it when they go bankrupt from asshats that think "My hyundai is the best car out there". You'll also enjoy the huge impact on the economy it has. Enjoy that Toyota you drive. Just remember this. When Japan was our enemy and killing our fellow americans, (your Grandparents, Fathers, Brothers,ect.) GM was making the aircraft and weapons to help save our ass.

Kris



The GM of WWII is not the same company today, only the name has kept.

I beg to differ. The USA-vehicles may appear like their Japanese counter-part, but I'd be dang if they are exactly the same vehicles as their Japanese-made ones. Somewhere, someplace, the USA-companies has cut a corner, and I am willing to bet it is in some places where you can't easily see, such as in the assembly, or parts QA from the vendors. I bet the parts reject rate for a GM/Ford part is probably twice as high as comparable the Japanese part, or something like that.

The USA-vehicles made today are NOT the same ones built by them in the late mid to late 60s. My wife's 1973 Plymouh(Chrylser) lasted 275,000 miles before it died. My 1992 Old Cutlass Cruiser lasted only 125,000, and my 1978 Dodge Aspen lasted only 120,000. My wife's 1992 Camry has almost 200,000 and still runs good. My nieghbor has a Honda Accord she bought from a traveling salesman with 150,000 miles 10 years ago, and she's put on another 100,000, and she's still driving it today. The track record seems clear, there is no amount of arguing whose car is better.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 7:02:25 AM EST
Personally I think guys who think American cars are no good are either not paying attention or just plain blind. This isnt the 70s or 80s, AMERICAN cars are great machines. My 95 Taco was no better in ANY way than any of the 1990+ american cars I've owned. I will NEVER own another Toyota or any other japanese car EVER again.

You guys bitch about costco but happily drive your jap cars. Lets see, the republicans control congress and the presidency, the economy continues downward because YOU support foreign companies. Libs blame conservatives for the failing economy, Libs come back into power. Your guns are bad cause libs say so. Libs get votes as sheep vote with their wallets. Dont believe it? Well you believe jap cars are better, regardless of how many of us show you PROOF our rigs are quality built machines. It's funny, cut your own throats....
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 7:02:29 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/22/2005 7:04:30 AM EST by Zionist]
I drive Nissan's




ETA Not completly true...I also own a Chevy El Camino.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 7:03:38 AM EST

Originally Posted By VooDoo3dfx:

Originally Posted By Aimless:
My american cars fell apart, my japanese cars have not; tell Toyota whatcha think of them.



+1

When American cars start thinking of quality... I'll start buying them.



+1

We have a Toyota Camry and Honda Accord. Not one has broken down yet, or given us the least bit of trouble.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 7:06:15 AM EST

Originally Posted By SevenMMmag:

Originally Posted By VooDoo3dfx:

Originally Posted By Aimless:
My american cars fell apart, my japanese cars have not; tell Toyota whatcha think of them.



+1

When American cars start thinking of quality... I'll start buying them.



+1

We have a Toyota Camry and Honda Accord. Not one has broken down yet, or given us the least bit of trouble.



Whoopee friggen doo, I've got a 93 Merc with 165K that's needed NOTHING, had a 92F150 sold with 148K needed NOTHING, have a 99 F350 with just under 100K needs NOTHING. So your point is???
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 7:08:50 AM EST
regardless of where toyota is from they hire a lot of american workers. my pops works for toy
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 7:09:34 AM EST

Originally Posted By shop_rat45:
Just remember this. When Japan was our enemy and killing our fellow americans, (your Grandparents, Fathers, Brothers,ect.) GM was making the aircraft and weapons to help save our ass.

Kris



The war is over...and last time I checked, Japan was part of the Coalition of the Willing...
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 7:11:08 AM EST

Originally Posted By 4v50:
Aren't the auto makers multi-national corporations now? I thought that GM owned 51% of Toyota. Correct me if I'm wrong.



You are wrong .

GM owns 20% of Subaru, part of Saab, and others. It's only connection with Toyota is the plant in CA where the Corolla / Prism was built and the Tacoma is now built.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 7:11:23 AM EST

Originally Posted By Mr45auto:
Personally I think guys who think American cars are no good are either not paying attention or just plain blind. This isnt the 70s or 80s, AMERICAN cars are great machines. My 95 Taco was no better in ANY way than any of the 1990+ american cars I've owned.



Can you say Dodge Dakota/Durango ball joints?? That right there is reason enough to never buy another Daimler Chrysler shitbox...
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 7:11:29 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/22/2005 7:11:46 AM EST by shop_rat45]

Originally Posted By SevenMMmag:

Originally Posted By VooDoo3dfx:

Originally Posted By Aimless:
My american cars fell apart, my japanese cars have not; tell Toyota whatcha think of them.



+1

When American cars start thinking of quality... I'll start buying them.



+1

We have a Toyota Camry and Honda Accord. Not one has broken down yet, or given us the least bit of trouble.



Ohhh!! Big friggin deal. My mother has a 95 Bonnevile that has over 200k on it. Besides normal stuff, the most major thing it's needed is a water pump. Just keep buying your Jap cars. I'm sure you'll enjoy the places that mindset will take us.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 7:13:44 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/22/2005 7:16:18 AM EST by shop_rat45]

Originally Posted By squeezecockerp7m8:

Originally Posted By Mr45auto:
Personally I think guys who think American cars are no good are either not paying attention or just plain blind. This isnt the 70s or 80s, AMERICAN cars are great machines. My 95 Taco was no better in ANY way than any of the 1990+ american cars I've owned.



Can you say Dodge Dakota/Durango ball joints?? That right there is reason enough to never buy another Daimler Chrysler shitbox...



Can you say Toyota truck ball joints?




TOYOTA, Japan (Reuters) -- Toyota Motor Corp. has said it will recall about 880,000 sport utility vehicles (SUVs) and pickups worldwide, mostly in the United States, to fix a defect in the front suspension that could hamper steering.

Covered in the recall, aimed at fixing front-suspension ball joints that could wear faster than they should, are the Tacoma and Tundra pickup trucks and Sequoia, Landcruiser Prado and 4Runner/Hilux Surf SUVs built between May 2001 and December 2003.




CNN

The foreign cars arent as good as you all think.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 7:14:34 AM EST

Originally Posted By squeezecockerp7m8:

Originally Posted By Mr45auto:
Personally I think guys who think American cars are no good are either not paying attention or just plain blind. This isnt the 70s or 80s, AMERICAN cars are great machines. My 95 Taco was no better in ANY way than any of the 1990+ american cars I've owned.



Can you say Dodge Dakota/Durango ball joints?? That right there is reason enough to never buy another Daimler Chrysler shitbox...




Daimler....nuff said.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 7:14:40 AM EST

Originally Posted By squeezecockerp7m8:

Originally Posted By Mr45auto:
Personally I think guys who think American cars are no good are either not paying attention or just plain blind. This isnt the 70s or 80s, AMERICAN cars are great machines. My 95 Taco was no better in ANY way than any of the 1990+ american cars I've owned.



Can you say Dodge Dakota/Durango ball joints?? That right there is reason enough to never buy another Daimler Chrysler shitbox...



Well, to be fair, Toyota just recalled about 800,000 trucks for ball joint problems...

But we only buy cars from them, so...
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 7:16:09 AM EST
All those japanese cars look the same after a while, the colors seem to be either chopsticks or rice

But I don't lose my coupe in the parking lot.......................

Link Posted: 5/22/2005 7:16:16 AM EST
89 Land Crusier. 300k. New belt, new muffler, thats it.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 7:22:57 AM EST
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 7:24:17 AM EST

Originally Posted By Aimless:
I remember very well the shenanigans Ford tried when my 88 F150 had the paint peel off it, they had a bunch of cars that got shitty blue paint jobs, instead of just saying "Sorry bring it in" they would initially give you a bs excuse that varied by location (salt in my area, sun if you lived in the southwest, salt air if you lived on the coast) if you made enough of a stink they'd pay for a paint job (or maybe it was part) but by then the truck was a few years old so I think I still ended up paying something for "body work needed to prep the truck" I could give plenty more examples, I don't trust these jokers anymore.



I had a 90 bronco II in blue and silver ... paint peeled right off of the thing too.

Link Posted: 5/22/2005 7:25:42 AM EST

Originally Posted By VooDoo3dfx:

Originally Posted By Aimless:
My american cars fell apart, my japanese cars have not; tell Toyota whatcha think of them.



+1

When American cars start thinking of quality... I'll start buying them.



Amen.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 7:29:00 AM EST
70s and 80s rough for US auto makers, you guys are just stuck there. I guess I must be imagining my trouble free times, so must the other guys with 400K+ miles on their american cars.... I guess we must have drank too much. I'm sorry, you guys are right. I'll run right out and buy Japanese, fuck the US economy. Who gives a crap what happens here.....
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 7:31:21 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/22/2005 7:31:39 AM EST by cmjohnson]
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 7:31:42 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/22/2005 7:34:33 AM EST by Lockedon]
i pay $20 A MONTH for gas in my '04 honda.....which one of you american car/truck owners can compete?

<­BR>ETA: for you extremists, think of it this way: i support terrorism the least possible amount. you guys who pay $80 per tank on the other hand....
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 7:31:47 AM EST

Originally Posted By Mr45auto:
70s and 80s rough for US auto makers, you guys are just stuck there. I guess I must be imagining my trouble free times, so must the other guys with 400K+ miles on their american cars.... I guess we must have drank too much. I'm sorry, you guys are right. I'll run right out and buy Japanese, fuck the US economy. Who gives a crap what happens here.....



You are so right!! People don't think about our economy when they buy thier foreign cars. They don't think of the jobs lost due to this. We'll, they will be the ones complaining when our economy goes down the drain and Japan is the new superpower. We'll be the ones standing there saying "I told you so"

Kris
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 7:34:33 AM EST

Originally Posted By cmjohnson:


Can you imagine GM, Ford, or Chrysler initiating a recall for something as TRIVIAL as THAT?





Yep, if GM did it, the media would say tht the vehicle will cause you to crash at high rates of speed, burst into flames, and kill yourself, nuns, kittens, and children. But for Toyota, it will just make the steering a bit rough.

Link Posted: 5/22/2005 7:36:41 AM EST

Originally Posted By shop_rat45:
They don't think of the jobs lost due to this.




Ehh, Toyota employs Americans.



Link Posted: 5/22/2005 7:37:08 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/22/2005 7:37:45 AM EST by Lockedon]

Originally Posted By shop_rat45:

Originally Posted By cmjohnson:


Can you imagine GM, Ford, or Chrysler initiating a recall for something as TRIVIAL as THAT?





Yep, if GM did it, the media would say tht the vehicle will cause you to crash at high rates of speed, burst into flames, and kill yourself, nuns, kittens, and children. But for Toyota, it will just make the steering a bit rough.





Yeah i know, the media was totally out to destroy ford with that whole pinto and firestone "myth"...
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 7:39:19 AM EST

Originally Posted By Red_Beard:

Originally Posted By shop_rat45:
They don't think of the jobs lost due to this.




Ehh, Toyota employs Americans.






It's a PR scam.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 7:41:54 AM EST
I buy foreign just to piss on the unions and democrats.

Link Posted: 5/22/2005 7:44:50 AM EST
I have a Nissan Maxima.....but I share the same sentiment of the Toyota and Honda owners here. When GM or Ford start making cars to the same reliability standards of the Japanese auto makers, I'll consider them once more. Until that day comes...............Forget About It

Besides, I believe we've seen some recent headlines where the "good ole American" automakers weren't so patriotic or politically correct.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 7:50:12 AM EST

Originally Posted By Mr45auto:
70s and 80s rough for US auto makers, you guys are just stuck there. I guess I must be imagining my trouble free times, so must the other guys with 400K+ miles on their american cars.... I guess we must have drank too much. I'm sorry, you guys are right. I'll run right out and buy Japanese, fuck the US economy. Who gives a crap what happens here.....



Dude, I've been driving American rentals for over six months. With very few exceptions, they suck in comparison to Toyota, Honda, and Nissan.

Oh, and a lot of those "Japanese" cars are built in AMERICA by AMERICANS using AMERICAN parts built by AMERICANS, so spare me the flag-waving.

Perhaps if the flag-waver would design and build something worth waving the flag from, I'd be willing to buy one.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 7:51:04 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/22/2005 7:51:19 AM EST by Red_Beard]

Originally Posted By Zaphod:
Oh, and a lot of those "Japanese" cars are built in AMERICA by AMERICANS using AMERICAN parts built by AMERICANS, so spare me the flag-waving.




It's a PR scam.



Link Posted: 5/22/2005 7:53:51 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/22/2005 7:56:24 AM EST by The_Sgt_Rock]

Originally Posted By Mr45auto:
70s and 80s rough for US auto makers, you guys are just stuck there. I guess I must be imagining my trouble free times, so must the other guys with 400K+ miles on their american cars.... I guess we must have drank too much. I'm sorry, you guys are right. I'll run right out and buy Japanese, fuck the US economy. Who gives a crap what happens here.....



When I went to buy my Nissan, I recalled a spat of headlines which stated that while American automaker quality was improving, it still was not to the same standards as the Japanese. I did a lot of research before buying my Nissan Maxima, and couldn't be happier. Now I don't have those exact articles in front of me, but here are a couple I found right off the bat on Google.

Jap Cars most reliable

Direct quote - "Japanese companies topped the magazine's annual survey of cars and trucks, with an emphatic 29 of 32 places on the magazine's "most reliable" list.

Big Three play catch up
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 7:55:14 AM EST
The difference is that Toyota and the rest of the japs are in it for the long haul. The domestics live quarter to quarter (stocks).

Long range goals vs. short range goals. Guess who's winning.

vmax84
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 8:25:16 AM EST

Originally Posted By vmax84:
The difference is that Toyota and the rest of the japs are in it for the long haul. The domestics live quarter to quarter (stocks).

Long range goals vs. short range goals. Guess who's winning.

vmax84



Bingo.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 8:27:16 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/22/2005 8:27:44 AM EST by Aimless]
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 8:44:47 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/22/2005 3:10:59 PM EST by cmjohnson]
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 8:59:32 AM EST
Fuck the unions and Fuck the American manufacturers for the pieces of shit they turn out.

IMO, American vehicles are NO BETTER-with the exception of a few better motors-than the trash they put out in the 70s and 80s.

My GF's 2000 GMC Jimmy is A PIECE OF SHIT. It has 109876 (I went and checked) and so far this is what we've had done:

Replace rear end gears. The dealer even said that they were incorrectly assembled at the (union) factory, but since that was the ONE routine maintenence we did not have the dealer do, TOO FUCKING BAD FOR US.
Idler pulley
intake manifold gasket
gas guage/pump assembly
alternator
the recliner handles have broken on both front seats
temp sensor
and the thing consistently runs VERY HOT during the summer here-without even pulling a load. We've had the radiator flushed a couple of times, had the tranny fluid & filter changed, nothing works. We can BARELY run the AC in the summer, NOT AT ALL if we're pulling a load. It has the V6 Vortec motor.

SO.....right now I'm worried SOLELY on MY economic situation, and paying to have a POS vehicle repaired DOESN'T help MY economic situation.

I'll continue to buy QUALITY vehicles that aren't shop queens.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 9:33:42 AM EST

Originally Posted By cmjohnson:
FUCK the unions. FUCK the over-paid, 35-dollar-an-hour bolt monkey whose absurdly high wages
are part of the very REASOn why the domestic auto makers send much of the work to other countries!




Just so you know, we don't make $35 an hour. And also, the non-union honda, toyota, ect. plants make a few dollars an hour less than us. So, where're over paid? Try standing on a line and put the same part on a car over and over 500+ times. It may not sound too bad, but when your body starts to fail from the repetative motion, then say we are overpaid. Until you are in our shoes, STFU!!!!! It's not like everyone thinks. No, I'm not rich, and no, I don't just go to work every day, sit down, and read the newspaper. Each job is designed so that we are working 55minutes out of every hour. It's not something that you can set your own pace and slow down when you need to. That line is not stopping for you.

If you guys want to help put our economy down the drain, have fun.


Proud UAW worker and GM employee,
Kris
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