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Posted: 10/20/2001 1:08:57 PM EDT
For once those communists at the Pravda West( aka L.A. Times) got it right about guns! [url]http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-102001gear.story [/url] Check out the blurbs about the "The M-4 Carbine Is New Gun of Choice", and "MP-5 submachine gun."
Link Posted: 10/20/2001 1:40:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/20/2001 1:40:17 PM EDT by LARRYG]
They didn't get it completely right. The M4 is not a new weapon and they failed in their description to mention that it basically a carbine version of the M16. They could get a AR18, which is two inches shorter with the stock folded, and you have a full length barrel.
Link Posted: 10/20/2001 2:41:58 PM EDT
AR 18 is 9mm?
Link Posted: 10/20/2001 3:05:21 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Flip_from_New_York: AR 18 is 9mm?
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Nope. 5.56/.223, as is the M4, M16, and AR15. They are not made anymore, but ArmaLite is reintroducing the AR180, which is the semiauto version of the AR18. I would be very easy for them to make a military version with select fire, folding stock, and flash hider. It uses a different buffer system than the M16/M4/AR15 and is thus able to have a folding/removable stock and yet have a full lenth barrel.
Link Posted: 10/21/2001 6:28:33 AM EDT
Originally Posted By LARRYG: They didn't get it completely right. The M4 is not a new weapon and they failed in their description to mention that it basically a carbine version of the M16. . . They are not made anymore, but ArmaLite is reintroducing the AR180, which is the semiauto version of the AR18. I would be very easy for them to make a military version with select fire, folding stock, and flash hider. It uses a different buffer system than the M16/M4/AR15 and is thus able to have a folding/removable stock and yet have a full lenth barrel.
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Well sorry almost, well at least most of the description etc is essentially correct. I didn't know that Armalite has been building new AR180s. I'm going to pop over to the Armlite site and check it out. It would be cool to have the U.S. military adopt the AR180, but I guess it is easy to do a few rifles, but when you have a train load full of them, I suspect things could be very different in term of support & spare parts.
Link Posted: 10/21/2001 1:29:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/21/2001 1:24:46 PM EDT by LARRYG]
Originally Posted By warlord:
Originally Posted By LARRYG: They didn't get it completely right. The M4 is not a new weapon and they failed in their description to mention that it basically a carbine version of the M16. . . They are not made anymore, but ArmaLite is reintroducing the AR180, which is the semiauto version of the AR18. I would be very easy for them to make a military version with select fire, folding stock, and flash hider. It uses a different buffer system than the M16/M4/AR15 and is thus able to have a folding/removable stock and yet have a full lenth barrel.
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Well sorry almost, well at least most of the description etc is essentially correct. I didn't know that Armalite has been building new AR180s. I'm going to pop over to the Armlite site and check it out. It would be cool to have the U.S. military adopt the AR180, but I guess it is easy to do a few rifles, but when you have a train load full of them, I suspect things could be very different in term of support & spare parts.
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Right now they are on hold because a vendor substituted a sub standard material in the cam pin guide. Also, the civilian version won't have the folding stock. Postban, you know.
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