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Posted: 3/21/2017 11:51:30 PM EST
Good. He made a commitment.
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Posted: 3/21/2017 11:55:47 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
Good. He made a commitment. |
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Posted: 3/21/2017 11:58:03 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By takdriver:
I agree, good arrest! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By takdriver:
Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
Good. He made a commitment. Even though we were at war when he boogied out they don't shoot deserters. Even though it's in the rule book. Buncha candy asses these days. 
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Posted: 3/21/2017 11:59:01 PM EST
It may take a bit but the DoD will eventually get their man.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/21/2017 11:59:15 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/22/2017 12:02:07 AM EST by Dana1972]
45 years AWOL that's gotta be a record. I wonder how they tracked him down.
Eta: Yep he beat this guys record of 40 years. He received a 30 day suspended sentence 40 years AWOL |
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Posted: 3/21/2017 11:59:58 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
Good. He made a commitment. |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 12:01:31 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/22/2017 12:02:41 AM EST by grey50beast]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dana1972:
45 years AWOL that's gotta be a record. I wonder how they tracked him down. 
He bought a house in his real name, so that couldn't have been hard to track. I wonder how he was employed for 45 years and which name he used. Must not have had a bank account under his fake name. What about DL, etc? That's what I'm curious about |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 12:01:34 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By kugelblitz:
Did he voluntarily enlist or was he drafted? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kugelblitz:
Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
Good. He made a commitment. |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 12:01:52 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Dana1972:
45 years AWOL that's gotta be a record. I wonder how they tracked him down. |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 12:02:27 AM EST
I'll have a coke.
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Posted: 3/22/2017 12:02:28 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/22/2017 12:02:48 AM EST by Burnsy]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kugelblitz:
Did he voluntarily enlist or was he drafted? |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 12:03:12 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
The article (I guess I'm a faggot because I read it) used the phrase "when he enlisted." |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 12:03:18 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Teamer:
It may take a bit but the DoD will eventually get their man. |
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USA
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Posted: 3/22/2017 12:03:23 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
Prepare to be disappointed. We've had threads like this in the past and they end up just telling him "You shouldn't have done that!" Even though we were at war when he boogied out they don't shoot deserters. Even though it's in the rule book. Buncha candy asses these days. 
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Posted: 3/22/2017 12:04:25 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By kugelblitz:
I read the article, but that still didn't answer the question. If he walked into a recruiter's office and said "where do I sign" is one thing, but if he was press-ganged and hopped the fence in the middle of the night is another. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kugelblitz:
Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
The article (I guess I'm a faggot because I read it) used the phrase "when he enlisted." |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 12:05:47 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Burnsy:
You ask this question as if it makes a difference. When I enlisted, I did so voluntarily. You know... how free societies operate. Someone comes around and says go fight this war or we'll throw you in prison? Fuck that. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 3/22/2017 12:06:04 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/22/2017 12:07:03 AM EST by compulynx]
Holy crap! My Father-in-law and his wife used to live there. They lived on 6th Place. Gonna have to call him and see if he knew him!!!
There are only about 45 or 50 houses in that subdivision. |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 12:06:45 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
We have no way of knowing if the article is correct (journalism is mostly dead), but the words "enlist" and "drafted" have very different meanings. We can only go by what we have--enlisted. 
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Posted: 3/22/2017 12:07:09 AM EST
What a waste of gas that drive was to go arrest the guy.
I'm curious to know how he handled DMV, taxes, or anything credit related for the last four decades. Also, what other charges on top of AWOL was he facing before he ran.. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/22/2017 12:07:25 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/22/2017 12:08:55 AM EST by Dana1972]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By grey50beast:
Reading the article was too tough? [:/] He bought a house in his real name, so that couldn't have been hard to track. I wonder how he was employed for 45 years and which name he used. Must not have had a bank account under his fake name. What about DL, etc? That's what I'm curious about Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By grey50beast:
Originally Posted By Dana1972:
45 years AWOL that's gotta be a record. I wonder how they tracked him down. He bought a house in his real name, so that couldn't have been hard to track. I wonder how he was employed for 45 years and which name he used. Must not have had a bank account under his fake name. What about DL, etc? That's what I'm curious about  I realize reading comprehension isn't easy for everyone bud, but you should make sure you're correct before you sling bullshit smarmy comments.
"According to property records, Lemburg purchased the Ocala home with his wife in 2005 under the name William Michael Robertson." "The Air Force has not released any information on how Lemburg was located or what charges he might face in connection with his alleged 45-year desertion." |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 12:08:17 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By hosphemer:
Well, it does. When I enlisted, I did so voluntarily. You know... how free societies operate. Someone comes around and says go fight this war or we'll throw you in prison? Fuck that. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hosphemer:
Originally Posted By Burnsy:
You ask this question as if it makes a difference. When I enlisted, I did so voluntarily. You know... how free societies operate. Someone comes around and says go fight this war or we'll throw you in prison? Fuck that. 
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Posted: 3/22/2017 12:08:50 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/22/2017 12:12:04 AM EST by thebeekeeper1]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hosphemer:
Might have pulled his number and he bolted down to the AF recruiter Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hosphemer:
Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
We have no way of knowing if the article is correct (journalism is mostly dead), but the words "enlist" and "drafted" have very different meanings. We can only go by what we have--enlisted. Edit: Google says: It was the country's first peacetime draft. From 1940 until 1973, during both peacetime and periods of conflict, men were drafted to fill vacancies in the United States Armed Forces that could not be filled through voluntary means. |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 12:08:57 AM EST
Why go AWOL from the Air Force?
We're not sitting in trenches or doing PT 8 hrs a day. Considering he was using a false identity (10 years his junior) he will likely be facing other charges, because I seriously doubt a task force is tracking down deserters from 1972. He popped on something else I guarantee it. |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 12:09:22 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/22/2017 12:11:37 AM EST by kaos]
Last I heard about these types of cases - they just deny benefits to the miscreant.
A few years ago - A friend was informed that one of the guys under her authority had been picked up after he was overdue by several years. She was advised that a detail wasn't going to be dispatched to fetch him - it was too costly - and they'd just revoke any benefits he'd otherwise have had coming. With cost cutting measures being what they are - I'm surprised anyone would bother tracking these guys anymore. |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 12:09:59 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
Did you read the article? It says he enlisted in 1960 and deserted in 1972. I'm pretty sure there was no draft in 1960 and I don't think anyone was ever drafted for a dozen years. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 3/22/2017 12:12:07 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Burnsy:
You ask this question as if it makes a difference. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Burnsy:
Originally Posted By kugelblitz:
Did he voluntarily enlist or was he drafted? Although I dont believe the AF accepted or needed draftees at the time so the guy is probably a piece of shit |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 12:12:18 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/22/2017 12:12:36 AM EST by hosphemer]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
In 1960? Please explain how that works. Edit: Google says: But I still doubt any conscription contract would last a dozen years. And the article does specify "enlisted." ETA Elvis was drafted in 1958. |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 12:12:49 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By hosphemer:
Well, it does. When I enlisted, I did so voluntarily. You know... how free societies operate. Someone comes around and says go fight this war or we'll throw you in prison? Fuck that. |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 12:13:39 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Burnsy:
EU is that way, GTFO. |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 12:13:42 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By hosphemer:
Draft was operational from the early 40's until the mid 70's. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hosphemer:
Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
Did you read the article? It says he enlisted in 1960 and deserted in 1972. I'm pretty sure there was no draft in 1960 and I don't think anyone was ever drafted for a dozen years. |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 12:15:11 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/22/2017 12:15:24 AM EST by Burnsy]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hosphemer:
Ironic, because most Socialist conscription countries are in the EU. Sounds like you'd be right at home there. |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 12:15:18 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
I was curious and had already googled it and posted via edit above. Did any draft term last for a dozen years? In the Air Force? |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 12:18:13 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
Did you read the article? It says he enlisted in 1960 and deserted in 1972. I'm pretty sure there was no draft in 1960 and I don't think 7anyone was ever drafted for a dozen years. over 50% of the way to retirement, in the af, and Paris wss underway. Ill very a dollar pussy had something to do with it. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/22/2017 12:19:07 AM EST
No statute of limitations? This is a great use of gov resources. Limitations are good for both sides, so they can move on. Good thing they found him or I don't know what would have happened. If you have gotten away with a crime for 20+ years and kept your nose clean how is jail time going to help anyone. If money is owed of course they should pay it still but other than that this was pointless.
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Posted: 3/22/2017 12:20:24 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/22/2017 12:21:07 AM EST by hosphemer]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CavVet:
what a stupid mf. over 50% of the way to retirement, in the af, and Paris wss underway. Ill very a dollar pussy had something to do with it.
Pissed it all away? 
And I'm guessing he AWOL'd over non-military issues/criminal things/psychotic break/etc. I doubt he went "Fuck it, take that, retirement!" I guess he could have chicken'd out of Vietnam. But in the AF? Seems unlikely. |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 12:23:05 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/22/2017 12:23:52 AM EST by hosphemer]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rvbrewer625:
No statute of limitations? This is a great use of gov resources. Limitations are good for both sides, so they can move on. Good thing they found him or I don't know what would have happened. If you have gotten away with a crime for 20+ years and kept your nose clean how is jail time going to help anyone. If money is owed of course they should pay it still but other than that this was pointless.
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Posted: 3/22/2017 12:46:54 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
I was curious and had already googled it and posted via edit above. Did any draft term last for a dozen years? In the Air Force? |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 12:57:42 AM EST
Who goes AWOL from the Air Force?
it's not like he would be in the jungle fighting the NVA.
I wonder what will happen to him? |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 1:05:17 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Dana1972:
I realize reading comprehension isn't easy for everyone bud, but you should make sure you're correct before you sling bullshit smarmy comments.
"According to property records, Lemburg purchased the Ocala home with his wife in 2005 under the name William Michael Robertson." "The Air Force has not released any information on how Lemburg was located or what charges he might face in connection with his alleged 45-year desertion."
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Posted: 3/22/2017 8:51:28 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By hosphemer:
Good old Speech to Text Paris peace talks were under way. Go read a book kid.
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Posted: 3/22/2017 9:01:19 AM EST
Short incarceration, dishonorable discharge. No sense in locking up an old dude (he costs us $$$ in medical and housing).
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Posted: 3/22/2017 9:03:20 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By 4v50:
Short incarceration, dishonorable discharge. No sense in locking up an old dude (he costs us $$ in medical and housing). |
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USA
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Posted: 3/22/2017 9:04:31 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By hosphemer:
Might have pulled his number and he bolted down to the AF recruiter |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 9:08:04 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By KennyW1983:
Who goes AWOL from the Air Force? it's not like he would be in the jungle fighting the NVA.
I wonder what will happen to him? |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 9:12:36 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
I was curious and had already googled it and posted via edit above. Did any draft term last for a dozen years? In the Air Force? Army & Marine Corps did |
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NM, USA
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Posted: 3/22/2017 9:19:20 AM EST
I saw 2 UA (Marine Corps AWOL) while I was in. 1 guy left because his wife in another state said something to him while he was on duty. Asked the O of the day for a smoke break and left. He turned himself in 6 months later and was discharged OTH after spending a few months cleaning up anything we could find.
Another guy jumped off the USS Essex, dude lost a key to a locker that held CADS and pen flares, the OIC was going to bring him up on charges. He mentioned wanting off the ship and they strapped him down to a bed for a few hours. The XO or Co of the ship went down to talk with him, had him untied and he walked over to the side of the ship, waved to the camera and jumped. A buddy of his said he felt like he wanted to live about 2 feet from hitting the water which was 35 ft or so from the top of the flight deck. Who knows what these folks have going on upstairs.
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Posted: 3/22/2017 9:21:50 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By 6172crew:
I saw 2 UA (Marine Corps AWOL) while I was in. 1 guy left because his wife in another state said something to him while he was on duty. Asked the O of the day for a smoke break and left. He turned himself in 6 months later and was discharged OTH after spending a few months cleaning up anything we could find. Another guy jumped off the USS Essex, dude lost a key to a locker that held CADS and pen flares, the OIC was going to bring him up on charges. He mentioned wanting off the ship and they strapped him down to a bed for a few hours. The XO or Co of the ship went down to talk with him, had him untied and he walked over to the side of the ship, waved to the camera and jumped. A buddy of his said he felt like he wanted to live about 2 feet from hitting the water which was 35 ft or so from the top of the flight deck. Who knows what these folks have going on upstairs |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 9:37:30 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/22/2017 9:38:00 AM EST by Palm]
The government has a very long memory. In 1972 I was stationed with the senior Marine detachment in the Chicago area. I made several trips to the Cook County jail to take custody of deserters. Some were from the Korean and WW II. We would thought them in the brig until there was a space available flight to their former command where they would get a Courts Marshall. It happened quite regularly.
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Posted: 3/22/2017 9:42:48 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By SpudCrushr:
AWOL bounty hunter guy must be prior finance. 
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Posted: 3/22/2017 9:44:07 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/22/2017 9:47:37 AM EST by callgood]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
Did you read the article? It says he enlisted in 1960 and deserted in 1972. I'm pretty sure there was no draft in 1960 and I don't think anyone was ever drafted for a dozen years. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
Did you read the article? It says he enlisted in 1960 and deserted in 1972. I'm pretty sure there was no draft in 1960 and I don't think anyone was ever drafted for a dozen years. 
" Between 1954-1964, from the end of the Korean War until the escalation in Vietnam, the “peacetime” draft inducted more than 1.4 million American men, an average of more than 120,000 per year. As part of their Cold War mission, many state universities required ROTC training by male students, although campus protests caused administrators to begin repealing mandatory ROTC in the late 1950s and early 1960s." Link Originally Posted By TacticalHeater:
I prefer community service. And by community service, I mean the bitch work at the military bases.
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