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Posted: 3/21/2017 11:47:39 PM EST
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Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
Good. He made a commitment.
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I agree, good arrest!
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It may take a bit but the DoD will eventually get their man.
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45 years AWOL that's gotta be a record. I wonder how they tracked him down.



Eta: Yep he beat this guys record of 40 years. He received a 30 day suspended sentence


40 years AWOL
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Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
Good. He made a commitment.
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Did he voluntarily enlist or was he drafted?
Link Posted: 3/22/2017 12:01:31 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Dana1972:
45 years AWOL that's gotta be a record. I wonder how they tracked him down.
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Reading the article was too tough?

He bought a house in his real name, so that couldn't have been hard to track.

I wonder how he was employed for 45 years and which name he used. Must not have had a bank account under his fake name. What about DL, etc?

That's what I'm curious about
Link Posted: 3/22/2017 12:01:34 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Dana1972:
45 years AWOL that's gotta be a record. I wonder how they tracked him down.
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That's what I want to know. Good arrest but how did they just now find him if they were really looking for him all this time?
Link Posted: 3/22/2017 12:02:27 AM EST
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Originally Posted By kugelblitz:


Did he voluntarily enlist or was he drafted?
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You ask this question as if it makes a difference.
Link Posted: 3/22/2017 12:03:12 AM EST
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Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
The article (I guess I'm a faggot because I read it) used the phrase "when he enlisted."
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I read the article, but that still didn't answer the question. If he walked into a recruiter's office and said "where do I sign" is one thing, but if he was press-ganged and hopped the fence in the middle of the night is another.
Link Posted: 3/22/2017 12:03:18 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Teamer:
It may take a bit but the DoD will eventually get their man.
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AWOL bounty hunter guy must be prior finance.
Link Posted: 3/22/2017 12:03:23 AM EST
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Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
Prepare to be disappointed. We've had threads like this in the past and they end up just telling him "You shouldn't have done that!"

Even though we were at war when he boogied out they don't shoot deserters. Even though it's in the rule book. Buncha candy asses these days.
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I am old fashioned, I support ethics, commitment and morals even if I am often let down.
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Originally Posted By Burnsy:
You ask this question as if it makes a difference.
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Well, it does.

When I enlisted, I did so voluntarily. You know... how free societies operate. Someone comes around and says go fight this war or we'll throw you in prison? Fuck that.
Link Posted: 3/22/2017 12:06:04 AM EST
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Holy crap! My Father-in-law and his wife used to live there. They lived on 6th Place. Gonna have to call him and see if he knew him!!!
There are only about 45 or 50 houses in that subdivision.
Link Posted: 3/22/2017 12:06:45 AM EST
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Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
We have no way of knowing if the article is correct (journalism is mostly dead), but the words "enlist" and "drafted" have very different meanings. We can only go by what we have--enlisted.
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Might have pulled his number and he bolted down to the AF recruiter
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What a waste of gas that drive was to go arrest the guy.

I'm curious to know how he handled DMV, taxes, or anything credit related for the last four decades. Also, what other charges on top of AWOL was he facing before he ran..
Link Posted: 3/22/2017 12:07:25 AM EST
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Originally Posted By grey50beast:
Reading the article was too tough? [:/]

He bought a house in his real name, so that couldn't have been hard to track.

I wonder how he was employed for 45 years and which name he used. Must not have had a bank account under his fake name. What about DL, etc?

That's what I'm curious about
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Originally Posted By Dana1972:
45 years AWOL that's gotta be a record. I wonder how they tracked him down.
Reading the article was too tough? [:/]

He bought a house in his real name, so that couldn't have been hard to track.

I wonder how he was employed for 45 years and which name he used. Must not have had a bank account under his fake name. What about DL, etc?

That's what I'm curious about
I realize reading comprehension isn't easy for everyone bud, but you should make sure you're correct before you sling bullshit smarmy comments.

"According to property records, Lemburg purchased the Ocala home with his wife in 2005 under the name William Michael Robertson."

"The Air Force has not released any information on how Lemburg was located or what charges he might face in connection with his alleged 45-year desertion."
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Why go AWOL from the Air Force?
We're not sitting in trenches or doing PT 8 hrs a day.

Considering he was using a false identity (10 years his junior) he will likely be facing other charges, because I seriously doubt a task force is tracking down deserters from 1972. He popped on something else I guarantee it.
Link Posted: 3/22/2017 12:09:22 AM EST
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Last I heard about these types of cases - they just deny benefits to the miscreant.

A few years ago - A friend was informed that one of the guys under her authority had been picked up after he was overdue by several years.
She was advised that a detail wasn't going to be dispatched to fetch him - it was too costly - and they'd just revoke any benefits he'd otherwise have had coming.

With cost cutting measures being what they are - I'm surprised anyone would bother tracking these guys anymore.
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Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
Did you read the article? It says he enlisted in 1960 and deserted in 1972. I'm pretty sure there was no draft in 1960 and I don't think anyone was ever drafted for a dozen years.
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Draft was operational from the early 40's until the mid 70's.
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Originally Posted By Burnsy:
You ask this question as if it makes a difference.
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Originally Posted By kugelblitz:


Did he voluntarily enlist or was he drafted?
You ask this question as if it makes a difference.
Makes all the difference in the world Mr. Statist.

Although I dont believe the AF accepted or needed draftees at the time so the guy is probably a piece of shit
Link Posted: 3/22/2017 12:12:18 AM EST
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Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
In 1960? Please explain how that works.


Edit: Google says:



But I still doubt any conscription contract would last a dozen years. And the article does specify "enlisted."
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That's right around when Elvis was drafted.

ETA Elvis was drafted in 1958.
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Originally Posted By hosphemer:


Well, it does.

When I enlisted, I did so voluntarily. You know... how free societies operate. Someone comes around and says go fight this war or we'll throw you in prison? Fuck that.
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EU is that way, GTFO.
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Originally Posted By Burnsy:
EU is that way, GTFO.
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Ironic, because most Socialist conscription countries are in the EU. Sounds like you'd be right at home there.
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Originally Posted By hosphemer:


Ironic, because most Socialist conscription countries are in the EU. Sounds like you'd be right at home there.
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thatsthejoke.jpeg
Link Posted: 3/22/2017 12:15:18 AM EST
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Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
I was curious and had already googled it and posted via edit above. Did any draft term last for a dozen years? In the Air Force?
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No, probably not.
Link Posted: 3/22/2017 12:18:13 AM EST
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Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
Did you read the article? It says he enlisted in 1960 and deserted in 1972. I'm pretty sure there was no draft in 1960 and I don't think 7anyone was ever drafted for a dozen years.
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what a stupid mf.

over 50% of the way to retirement, in the af, and Paris wss underway.

Ill very a dollar pussy had something to do with it.
Link Posted: 3/22/2017 12:19:07 AM EST
No statute of limitations? This is a great use of gov resources. Limitations are good for both sides, so they can move on. Good thing they found him or I don't know what would have happened. If you have gotten away with a crime for 20+ years and kept your nose clean how is jail time going to help anyone. If money is owed of course they should pay it still but other than that this was pointless.
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Originally Posted By CavVet:

what a stupid mf.

over 50% of the way to retirement, in the af, and Paris wss underway.

Ill very a dollar pussy had something to do with it.
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Good old Speech to Text

Pissed it all away?

And I'm guessing he AWOL'd over non-military issues/criminal things/psychotic break/etc. I doubt he went "Fuck it, take that, retirement!"

I guess he could have chicken'd out of Vietnam. But in the AF? Seems unlikely.
Link Posted: 3/22/2017 12:23:05 AM EST
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Originally Posted By rvbrewer625:
No statute of limitations? This is a great use of gov resources. Limitations are good for both sides, so they can move on. Good thing they found him or I don't know what would have happened. If you have gotten away with a crime for 20+ years and kept your nose clean how is jail time going to help anyone. If money is owed of course they should pay it still but other than that this was pointless.
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In the movie THX 1138, the dystopian society had a machine do complex calculations to determine the exact moment a criminal wasn't worth pursuing anymore (based on expenses of police/chance of reoffense/length of punishment and imprisonment expenses if captured/etc.) It was a good movie
Link Posted: 3/22/2017 12:46:54 AM EST
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Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
I was curious and had already googled it and posted via edit above. Did any draft term last for a dozen years? In the Air Force?
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He had to reenlist at least a couple of times
Link Posted: 3/22/2017 12:57:42 AM EST
Who goes AWOL from the Air Force? it's not like he would be in the jungle fighting the NVA.

I wonder what will happen to him?
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Originally Posted By Dana1972:



I realize reading comprehension isn't easy for everyone bud, but you should make sure you're correct before you sling bullshit smarmy comments.

"According to property records, Lemburg purchased the Ocala home with his wife in 2005 under the name William Michael Robertson."

"The Air Force has not released any information on how Lemburg was located or what charges he might face in connection with his alleged 45-year desertion."
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^^^^
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Originally Posted By hosphemer:


Good old Speech to Text
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No.

Paris peace talks were under way.

Go read a book kid. 
Link Posted: 3/22/2017 9:01:19 AM EST
Short incarceration, dishonorable discharge. No sense in locking up an old dude (he costs us $$$ in medical and housing).
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Originally Posted By 4v50:
Short incarceration, dishonorable discharge. No sense in locking up an old dude (he costs us $$ in medical and housing).
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I prefer community service. And by community service, I mean the bitch work at the military bases.
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Originally Posted By hosphemer:


Might have pulled his number and he bolted down to the AF recruiter
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That was my thought. Common tactic to enlist in Navy or Air Force to dodge an Army or Marine draft. They were considered safe outs with clean sheets and no bullets. Worked for middle and low income guys who couldn't loiter in college with a deferment.
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Originally Posted By KennyW1983:
Who goes AWOL from the Air Force? it's not like he would be in the jungle fighting the NVA.

I wonder what will happen to him?
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He was pissed that they kept overcooking his steaks. It's in the article
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Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
I was curious and had already googled it and posted via edit above. Did any draft term last for a dozen years? In the Air Force?
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never heard the Airforce needed to draft anyone during the Vietnam era
Army & Marine Corps did
Link Posted: 3/22/2017 9:19:20 AM EST
I saw 2 UA (Marine Corps AWOL) while I was in. 1 guy left because his wife in another state said something to him while he was on duty. Asked the O of the day for a smoke break and left. He turned himself in 6 months later and was discharged OTH after spending a few months cleaning up anything we could find.

Another guy jumped off the USS Essex, dude lost a key to a locker that held CADS and pen flares, the OIC was going to bring him up on charges. He mentioned wanting off the ship and they strapped him down to a bed for a few hours. The XO or Co of the ship went down to talk with him, had him untied and he walked over to the side of the ship, waved to the camera and jumped.

A buddy of his said he felt like he wanted to live about 2 feet from hitting the water which was 35 ft or so from the top of the flight deck.


Who knows what these folks have going on upstairs.
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Originally Posted By 6172crew:
I saw 2 UA (Marine Corps AWOL) while I was in. 1 guy left because his wife in another state said something to him while he was on duty. Asked the O of the day for a smoke break and left. He turned himself in 6 months later and was discharged OTH after spending a few months cleaning up anything we could find.

Another guy jumped off the USS Essex, dude lost a key to a locker that held CADS and pen flares, the OIC was going to bring him up on charges. He mentioned wanting off the ship and they strapped him down to a bed for a few hours. The XO or Co of the ship went down to talk with him, had him untied and he walked over to the side of the ship, waved to the camera and jumped.

A buddy of his said he felt like he wanted to live about 2 feet from hitting the water which was 35 ft or so from the top of the flight deck.


Who knows what these folks have going on upstairs
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Pretty much it right there...
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The government has a very long memory. In 1972 I was stationed with the senior Marine detachment in the Chicago area. I made several trips to the Cook County jail to take custody of deserters. Some were from the Korean and WW II. We would thought them in the brig until there was a space available flight to their former command where they would get a Courts Marshall. It happened quite regularly.
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Originally Posted By SpudCrushr:


AWOL bounty hunter guy must be prior finance.
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Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
Did you read the article? It says he enlisted in 1960 and deserted in 1972. I'm pretty sure there was no draft in 1960 and I don't think anyone was ever drafted for a dozen years.
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Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
Did you read the article? It says he enlisted in 1960 and deserted in 1972. I'm pretty sure there was no draft in 1960 and I don't think anyone was ever drafted for a dozen years.
Alas, "pretty sure" isn't all it's cut out to be.

" Between 1954-1964, from the end of the Korean War until the escalation in Vietnam, the “peacetime” draft inducted more than 1.4 million American men, an average of more than 120,000 per year. As part of their Cold War mission, many state universities required ROTC training by male students, although campus protests caused administrators to begin repealing mandatory ROTC in the late 1950s and early 1960s."

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Originally Posted By TacticalHeater:
I prefer community service. And by community service, I mean the bitch work at the military bases.
Life on the honey wagon at Fort Polk.
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