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Posted: 8/8/2005 5:37:40 PM EDT


Fla. deaths up since helmet law revoked

Aug. 8, 2005 at 10:53AM

Motorcyclist deaths have nearly doubled and medical costs have soared in Florida five years since the state government made helmet use optional.

In a survey by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, in the three years after the optional helmet law took effect, the number of fatal motorcycle accidents increased more than 81 percent -- compared with a 48 percent increase nationally.

"The numbers are pretty compelling that Florida has paid a high price," Rae Tyson, a spokesman for the federal agency told the Miami Herald

The study said in the 30 months after the helmet law was lifted, 4,986 riders were admitted to hospitals -- 40 percent more than the 3,567 admissions during the 30 months before the law was changed. Head-injury admissions were up 80 percent and costs charged to hospitals for motorcyclists with head, brain or skull injuries more than doubled from $21 million to $50 million.

Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said he was compelled to sign the helmet law repeal because legislators had rolled it into a larger transportation package. A Bush spokesman declined comment because his office hadn't yet seen the study.
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 5:41:07 PM EDT
Who cares? I don't ride a bike so I don't need to worry about helmet laws. Insurance companies can refuse to sell insurance to and/or exclude anyone who rides without a helmet if they want to.
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 5:41:12 PM EDT
Who would have guessed!!!
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 5:42:42 PM EDT
Easy one here. Don't make it mandatory but give them two options on the bike endorsment. You have to choose a or b.



A) You must wear dot acceptable head protection whenever operating, or riding on any motorcycle.

B) You must agree to become an organ donor and upon brain death consent is given with this option and your family can not change this.


Either way, the public can win.
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 5:43:44 PM EDT
does it really matter? anyone who owns a bike knows the consequences
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 5:45:01 PM EDT

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Easy one here. Don't make it mandatory but give them two options on the bike endorsment. You have to choose a or b.



A) You must wear dot acceptable head protection whenever operating, or riding on any motorcycle.

B) You must agree to become an organ donor and upon brain death consent is given with this option and your family can not change this.


Either way, the public can win.





+1
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 5:45:49 PM EDT
Nice communist views everyone. BTW, PAs deaths are DOWN since they trashed the helmet law up there.

Carry on comrades.
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 5:48:25 PM EDT

Originally Posted By packnru:
Nice communist views everyone. BTW, PAs deaths are DOWN since they trashed the helmet law up there.

Carry on comrades.


Well, arne't we special.
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 5:48:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/8/2005 5:49:56 PM EDT by lu380]

Originally Posted By packnru:
Nice communist views everyone. BTW, PAs deaths are DOWN since they trashed the helmet law up there.

Carry on comrades.



You didn't take my post as Communist did you? All I said is that insurance companies can exclude, refuse insurance, or charge higher premiums for helmet-less riders if they so choose. This way there is no Government involvement, and riders can decide the level of risk they are willing to accept.

BTW Airwolf, you are in California. Why would you care what happens to bikers in Florida?
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 5:53:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By packnru:
Nice communist views everyone. BTW, PAs deaths are DOWN since they trashed the helmet law up there.
Carry on comrades.



Funny thing, in Daytona Beach, the HOME of MOTORCYCLE AMERICA, deaths went DOWN after they repealed the Govt helmet laws. Riders claimed that they had better hearing and visibility to AVOID accidents.

Also another fact that gets lost, The VAST majority of motorcycle accidents involve new riders. Hummmm, kids, no helmets - brains scrambled on the pavement.

Bikes must be taken away from ALL inexperienced riders. Its for the children. Think about that one - all inexperienced riders. We need a LAW dammit, a new LAW, this insanity MUST be STOPPED, Kids are KILLING themselves. For the LOVE OF god, SAVE the Children.

P.s. No one should be allowed to use a swimming pool without wearing a life preserver. Too many kids drown without that safety equipment.

P.S. no one shoujld be allowed to drive a SUV - they hurt people who can't afford those heavy trucks. It isn't fair. Save the children, BAN SUV's

Link Posted: 8/8/2005 5:54:54 PM EDT
Why is it illegal in FL not to wear a seatbelt in a car but you don't have to wear a helmet on a motorcycle?
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 5:55:15 PM EDT
lol, helmetless bike riders do make good organ donors though, Just not skin or eyes.
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 5:55:19 PM EDT
I'm sure deaths have increased, but the last motorcycle crash I worked, no helmet would have saved the guy. Upon impact with the car, the motorcycle guy's helmet flew off...with his head still in it. When the M.E. took the head out of the helmet, it was pretty much undamaged.
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 5:56:27 PM EDT
So what?


This is SUPPOSED to be a Free Country.
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 5:56:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Treelo:
I'm sure deaths have increased, but the last motorcycle crash I worked, no helmet would have saved the guy. Upon impact with the car, the motorcycle guy's helmet flew off...with his head still in it. When the M.E. took the head out of the helmet, it was pretty much undamaged.



He needed a hans device, someone make a law.
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 5:59:05 PM EDT
Mandatory helmet laws! Mandatory seatbelt laws! No showers for people over 60! No smoking! No drinking! No starches for fat people! Mandatory exercise! Every individual health problem is a drain on the public fisc!
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 5:59:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
So what?


This is SUPPOSED to be a Free Country.



Yea right... with the rest of us picking up the medical bills for morons.
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 6:01:43 PM EDT
Let's not forget to ban every large breed of dog except labs, you know labs, the ones that bite the most.
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 6:01:44 PM EDT
They have a right to not wear a helmet! They know what will happen if they don't.

Most of the oil-burning slow harley riders around here where thos bicycle style ones so they can look "cool"(ridiculous) with their leather vests.

My helmet is DOT-approved but it's not SNELL approved because the chinguard mechanism has an unlocking lever, enabling it to open and close.

We should have a choice to wear a helmet or seat belt. We don't need the safety Nazis passing laws restricting us from doing things that don't harm others.
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 6:03:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/8/2005 6:04:12 PM EDT by Treelo]

Originally Posted By Dusty_C:

Originally Posted By Treelo:
I'm sure deaths have increased, but the last motorcycle crash I worked, no helmet would have saved the guy. Upon impact with the car, the motorcycle guy's helmet flew off...with his head still in it. When the M.E. took the head out of the helmet, it was pretty much undamaged.



He needed a hans device, someone make a law.



Nonetheless, that wouldn't have helped him either. He hit an older model Jeep Cherokee on the driver side by the rear. The rear bumper is basically two metal beams with a plastic corner piece. He hit the side of the bumper with the front wheel of his bike, which popped off the plastic corner piece of the bumper, separating and exposing the two beams. The top beam pierced his upper chest and popped the head off from there.
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 6:03:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
So what?


This is SUPPOSED to be a Free Country.



Yea right... with the rest of us picking up the medical bills for morons.



I repeat:

Mandatory helmet laws! Mandatory seatbelt laws! No showers for people over 60! No smoking! No drinking! No starches for fat people! Mandatory exercise! Every individual health problem is a drain on the public fisc!




If "the rest of you" paying "morons'" medical bills is a reasonable basis for regulating behavior, explain in detail the reach of that rationale as grounds for limiting individual freedom, and distinguish permitted risky behavior from prohibited risky behavior on a rational basis.

Or pick up your brown shirt at the door.
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 6:04:36 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 6:05:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
So what?


This is SUPPOSED to be a Free Country.



Yea right... with the rest of us picking up the medical bills for morons.




So DON'T. Ride at your own Risk. Have your own insurance.


Here's a fucking concept - PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.


Me, I don't even bicycle without a helmet - and I usually have a leather jacket and riding boots on a motorcyle - but that is MY CHOICE
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 6:06:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
So what?


This is SUPPOSED to be a Free Country.



Yea right... with the rest of us picking up the medical bills for morons.



+1

I could care less if some idiot wants to ride his "hog" without a helmet and die. I do care when I am forced to pay for it cause these idiots do not have the proper medical coverage.

I also believe that the woman who pushed the no helmet law in Florida died a couple of months after it became a law in a motorcycle accident. Guess what....no helmet!!!!


Semper Fi,
ASO544
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 6:06:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/8/2005 6:07:17 PM EDT by FLAL1A]

Originally Posted By Wolfpack:

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
So what?


This is SUPPOSED to be a Free Country.



Yea right... with the rest of us picking up the medical bills for morons.




+! motorcycle riders should carry $250,000 on them to cover medical expenses then, don't look to us for help.



What's the minimum coverage for shooters so the rest of "you" don't pay for injuries caused by tools you hate? For overeaters, so you athletes don't pay for self-induced coronaries and diabetes? For staying alive past 70 so short-termers don't pay for their narcissistic attachment to life?
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 6:07:43 PM EDT
I remeber the days of riding my Turbocharged GSXR 1100 down to the beach with no helmet picking up on chicks and throwing them on the back for a fast ride down PCH.Then they passed the Ghey helmet law and fucked everything up with the ladies.Couldnt never really carry an extra helmet on a drag bike??
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 6:11:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
So what?


This is SUPPOSED to be a Free Country.



Yea right... with the rest of us picking up the medical bills for morons.




So DON'T. Ride at your own Risk. Have your own insurance.


Here's a fucking concept - PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.


Me, I don't even bicycle without a helmet - and I usually have a leather jacket and riding boots on a motorcyle - but that is MY CHOICE



BULLSHIT

And what country do you live in cause it appears you don’t live in the US… or at least you don’t have any idea how it works when one of theses imbeciles wrecks without insurance.

I don’t get a fucking choice the state/county picks up the medical bill… which means I do.
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 6:13:29 PM EDT
It's a no-brainer!

/rimshot
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 6:14:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
So what?


This is SUPPOSED to be a Free Country.



Yea right... with the rest of us picking up the medical bills for morons.



If there is Socialism/Communism in one area of society then it will create problems in Capitalist areas of society. If we as physicians didn't or were not required to treat anyone without insurance then it would immediately solve the helmet law issue. If you wipe out and have no insurance then personallly suffer the consequences. It really is that simple.
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 6:16:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/8/2005 6:19:53 PM EDT by AR15fan]

Originally Posted By Airwolf:
photobucket.com/albums/v442/airwolf144/nss.jpg

Fla. deaths up since helmet law revoked




Impossible. The Jesse James & West Coast Choppers groupies assured me that by not wearing a helmet they can better see and hear their surroundings and therefore will crash less often.
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 6:16:54 PM EDT
I think only qan idiot would ride without one. But I respect the right to be an idiot. Helmet laws are unamerican.
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 6:17:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By C-4:

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
So what?


This is SUPPOSED to be a Free Country.



Yea right... with the rest of us picking up the medical bills for morons.



If there is Socialism/Communism in one area of society then it will create problems in Capitalist areas of society. If we as physicians didn't or were not required to treat anyone without insurance then it would immediately solve the helmet law issue. If you wipe out and have no insurance then personallly suffer the consequences. It really is that simple.



And what exactly are the chances this will happen... zero.
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 6:17:54 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
So what?


This is SUPPOSED to be a Free Country.



Yea right... with the rest of us picking up the medical bills for morons.




So DON'T. Ride at your own Risk. Have your own insurance.


Here's a fucking concept - PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.


Me, I don't even bicycle without a helmet - and I usually have a leather jacket and riding boots on a motorcyle - but that is MY CHOICE



BULLSHIT

And what country do you live in cause it appears you don’t live in the US… or at least you don’t have any idea how it works when one of theses imbeciles wrecks without insurance.

I don’t get a fucking choice the state/county picks up the medical bill… which means I do.




I KNOW that. Let's change it.

Link Posted: 8/8/2005 6:21:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
So what?


This is SUPPOSED to be a Free Country.



Yea right... with the rest of us picking up the medical bills for morons.




So DON'T. Ride at your own Risk. Have your own insurance.


Here's a fucking concept - PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.


Me, I don't even bicycle without a helmet - and I usually have a leather jacket and riding boots on a motorcyle - but that is MY CHOICE



BULLSHIT

And what country do you live in cause it appears you don’t live in the US… or at least you don’t have any idea how it works when one of theses imbeciles wrecks without insurance.

I don’t get a fucking choice the state/county picks up the medical bill… which means I do.




I KNOW that. Let's change it.




If they would make that a law (no insurance, no medical treatement), than I would have no issue with a person not wearing a helmet.

It is "American" to have a choice, but it is also "American" for me not to be forced to pay for some "idiots" medical bills.

Semper Fi,
ASO544
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 6:23:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/8/2005 6:23:52 PM EDT by FLAL1A]
Gotta love it. ARFCOM: bastion of individual liberty!*

­



*Unless voluntary participation in an insurance pool or involuntary participation in the tax structure means that other people's choices may cost me money, in which case Himmler and Stalin have nothing on me when the subject is collectivism.



Hypocrites are everywhere. What will you say when your muscle car, your guns, and your power tools are subject to higher taxation or legal requirements for extra insurance so nonparticipants are not required to carry your actuarial water? I think this is the first time an Arfcom consensus has disgusted me. Wait till your penny-pinching folly is turned against you, then rue this day.
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 6:26:57 PM EDT
The bright side is that available organs for transplant have also gone up 81%. Actually for kidneys that's 162%!
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 6:29:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FLAL1A:
Gotta love it. ARFCOM: bastion of individual liberty!*

*Unless voluntary participation in an insurance pool or involuntary participation in the tax structure means that other people's choices may cost me money, in which case Himmler and Stalin have nothing on me when the subject is collectivism.



Hypocrites are everywhere. What will you say when your muscle car, your guns, and your power tools are subject to higher taxation or legal requirements for extra insurance so nonparticipants are not required to carry your actuarial water? I think this is the first time an Arfcom consensus has disgusted me. Wait till your penny-pinching folly is turned against you, then rue this day.



Apples and oranges

People with muscle cars are required to have insurance. You already pay for increased prices for guns and power tools to cover increased insurance cost.

But OK

Anybody that wants to play Russian roulette should have to carry $250,000 on them to cover medical expenses… THAT is the equivalent to riding without a helmet.
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 6:29:55 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FLAL1A:
Gotta love it. ARFCOM: bastion of individual liberty!*



It sounds like this is what you want in this situation:

1) No laws specifying whether or not a helmet must be worn.
2) Bike rider wipes out.
3) If he has insurance then he is treated at the hospital.
4) If he does not have insurance then he is shit-out-of-luck
unless there is a hospital staffed by volunteer physicians donating
their time with supplies/nurses paid for by voluntary donations
from the public.

I have no problem with this plan.



Link Posted: 8/8/2005 6:30:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:

Originally Posted By C-4:

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
So what?


This is SUPPOSED to be a Free Country.



Yea right... with the rest of us picking up the medical bills for morons.



If there is Socialism/Communism in one area of society then it will create problems in Capitalist areas of society. If we as physicians didn't or were not required to treat anyone without insurance then it would immediately solve the helmet law issue. If you wipe out and have no insurance then personallly suffer the consequences. It really is that simple.



And what exactly are the chances this will happen... zero.



First we have to agree on what has to be done. Then we have a national referendum from the rooftops.
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 6:35:41 PM EDT
I find it hard to work up any energy about this.

I don't ride anymore but when I did it wouldn't have mattered whether there had been a helmet law or not I always wore a helmet. Period. After my second crash (vs a DUI, revoked license, no insurance, hit-and-run habitual offender who only got 6 mos) I started wearing leathers whenever possible regardless of the weather, my bike my choice.

If some idiot doesn't want to wear a helmet...well frankly who cares? I certainly don't. Why do you?

They're already required to carry insurance (albeit a piddling $10k).

Someone mentioned healthcare costs and with that line of thinking it sounds like the .gov should step up and start regulating it under the commerce clause.

You'd support that right? I mean it only makes sense right?



Link Posted: 8/8/2005 6:38:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/8/2005 6:39:07 PM EDT by MachinegunManiac]
What about those without medical insurance that DO pay for their bills.? Those people exist so don't assume that because someone may not have insurance at that very moment that they're wellfare collecting scumbags.

Also, let's not group all motorcyclists as scumbags because you are afraid of them.

Where does it end? Should we ban hunting, skydiving, swimming, etc because they are risky behaviors?
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 6:41:19 PM EDT

Or pick up your brown shirt at the door.


Typical comment

The "you be Nazis" defense.

Semper Fi,
ASO544
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 6:41:46 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Progunvoter:

Funny thing, in Daytona Beach, the HOME of MOTORCYCLE AMERICA, deaths went DOWN after they repealed the Govt helmet laws. Riders claimed that they had better hearing and visibility to AVOID accidents.




Those are the riders that cause image problems for the riders with brains that wear helmets to protect them. My full-face helmet doesn't impact hearing at all... on my KZ750, I hear wind noise over the engine at 70 mph. The helmet might knock a degree or two off of peripheral vision... but riders with smarts do this thing called a "head check" before changing lanes.

If you can't hear or see when you're wearing a helmet, then it may be because you're wearing it backwards.
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 6:41:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Wolfpack:

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
So what?


This is SUPPOSED to be a Free Country.



Yea right... with the rest of us picking up the medical bills for morons.




+! motorcycle riders should carry $250,000 on them to cover medical expenses then, don't look to us for help.



In FL, motorcycle riders must carry at least $10,000.00 in insurance in order to ride without a helmet.
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 6:42:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
So what?


This is SUPPOSED to be a Free Country.



Yea right... with the rest of us picking up the medical bills for morons.




So DON'T. Ride at your own Risk. Have your own insurance.


Here's a fucking concept - PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.


Me, I don't even bicycle without a helmet - and I usually have a leather jacket and riding boots on a motorcyle - but that is MY CHOICE



BULLSHIT

And what country do you live in cause it appears you don’t live in the US… or at least you don’t have any idea how it works when one of theses imbeciles wrecks without insurance.

I don’t get a fucking choice the state/county picks up the medical bill… which means I do.



Here's a little item on how prevalent it is to have unlicensed and likely uninsured riders, (not to mention those without helmets). It seems they are responsible for more than their share of accidents and injuries.

I think we could make it mandatory to carry insurance by hooking it up to licensing and registration. Any cancellations of insurance on a vehicle would trigger DMVs to revoke the owner's license and put the car license on a watch list for confiscation (as if it were stolen).

"More and more unlicensed motorcycle riders on the road http://www.woodtv.com (Grand Rapids, April 28, 2004, 6:55 p.m.) Unlicensed motorcycle riders getting into trouble on the road is becoming a growing problem. A study from the Office of Highway Safety shows there are more motorcycles on the road than ever. And many of those riders don't have licenses. Worse yet, many of them don't have any training in how to ride a motorcycle safely. According to a six year study by the Office of Highway Safety, the number of motorcycle crashes in Michigan has increased by 20 percent. Forty-four percent of those crashes involved riders who didn't have a motorcycle license. 24 Hour News 8 went to a Secretary of State's office to find out how you can register a motorcycle without passing a driver's test. "In the state of Michigan it is required to present the title properly assigned or in your name, your proof of insurance and identification," said Tammie Rodriguez from the Secretary of State's office. Rodriguez also said you don't need any proof that you know how to ride a motorcycle. So how hard is it to get insurance for a motorcycle? Not very, according to Officer Al Nobles of the Grand Rapids Police Department. "There are a lot of insurance companies that don't require cycle endorsements to actually insure the vehicle," Officer Nobles told 24 Hour News 8. 24 Hour News 8 then spoke to an official at the Michigan Insurance Commission who backs this up, by saying, "There's no code or statute that requires insurance companies to see proof of a motorcycle endorsement before they write a motorcycle insurance policy." So if all you need to register a motorcycle is proof of insurance, and you don't necessarily need to show a license to get that, then it seems all to easy to slap a license plate of the back of your motorcycle and ride off without ever having to prove that you know what you're doing. "If you don't know what you're doing, or don't have any riding experience, when things go bad you don't know how to correct them," said Officer Nobles. While it might seem odd that no one asks to see a motorcycle endorsement before being allowed to register a motorcycle, you don't have to present a driver's license to register a car either. In both cases, a simple I.D. will do. As for getting training on a motorcycle, in order to pass the road test and get your endorsement, such classes are hard to find due to a cut in state funding. The only one is in Allegan and they are booked for the year
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 6:43:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Treelo:

Originally Posted By Wolfpack:

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
So what?


This is SUPPOSED to be a Free Country.



Yea right... with the rest of us picking up the medical bills for morons.




+! motorcycle riders should carry $250,000 on them to cover medical expenses then, don't look to us for help.



In FL, motorcycle riders must carry at least $10,000.00 in insurance in order to ride without a helmet.



That might cover their ride to the hospital and a couple of asprin!!!

Semper Fi,
ASO544
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 6:46:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ASO544:

That might cover their ride to the hospital and a couple of asprin!!!

Semper Fi,
ASO544



Well if you don't like it then get the state law changed. Easy enough.
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 6:48:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By GreyGhost:
Why is it illegal in FL not to wear a seatbelt in a car but you don't have to wear a helmet on a motorcycle?





Uuhh, good point.

IMO, no helmet = no brains
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 6:53:28 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Observer:

Originally Posted By ASO544:

That might cover their ride to the hospital and a couple of asprin!!!

Semper Fi,
ASO544



Well if you don't like it then get the state law changed. Easy enough.



I agree. I think it will be before too long.

Semper Fi,
ASO544
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 7:10:03 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MachinegunManiac:
What about those without medical insurance that DO pay for their bills.? Those people exist just like Unicorns, Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.



From my experience treating thousands of patients.
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 7:16:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Treelo:
I'm sure deaths have increased, but the last motorcycle crash I worked, no helmet would have saved the guy. Upon impact with the car, the motorcycle guy's helmet flew off...with his head still in it. When the M.E. took the head out of the helmet, it was pretty much undamaged.





Funniest post I've seen in days!
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