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Posted: 2/14/2017 7:37:51 PM EDT
You'll need both a pilot's license and a driver's license for the PAL-V Liberty Sport. 
http://www.motortrend.com/news/first-commercially-available-flying-car-goes-on-sale-for-399000/
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There are going to be so many rotor strikes, that thing won't be street legal for long.
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There are going to be so many rotor strikes, that thing won't be street legal for long.
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I don't think the rotor's extended when driving. 
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 7:43:30 PM EDT
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Still need an airstrip to take off and land.  Useless.
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It flys.  It drives.  Not useless. 

I'm waiting for their Jetson model. 
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 7:52:41 PM EDT
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It looks like a helicopter to me. I wonder why it needs an airstrip.

I also wonder what happened to Terrafugia, who's had a flying car for years now (which I suppose has never been approved).
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 7:54:23 PM EDT
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It's a shitty car, and an even shittier helicopter - all for only $400k. 

This is why we'll never really have flying cars. The compromises required, make both vehicle and airplane shittier than their standalone counterparts. 
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It looks like a helicopter to me. I wonder why it needs an airstrip.

I also wonder what happened to Terrafugia, who's had a flying car for years now (which I suppose has never been approved).
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Still need an airstrip to take off and land.  Useless.

It looks like a helicopter to me. I wonder why it needs an airstrip.

I also wonder what happened to Terrafugia, who's had a flying car for years now (which I suppose has never been approved).
It looks like a gyrocopter, so no VTOL. 
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 7:57:14 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/14/2017 7:57:21 PM EDT
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Don't need an airstrip when you've got plenty of highways.

How long until someone flies away from the highway patrol?
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 8:01:20 PM EDT
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STILL!!!

I'm afeared I shall not see such a wondrous invention as promised me in my youth before I pass on to my just reward.
Link Posted: 2/14/2017 8:39:19 PM EDT
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Don't need an airstrip when you've got plenty of highways.

How long until someone flies away from the highway patrol?
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We don't need no stinking road block and fly's away
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 1:13:40 AM EDT
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It's a shitty car, and an even shittier helicopter - all four only $400k. 

This is why we'll never really haver flying cars. The compromises required make both vehicle and airplane shittier than their standalone counterparts. 
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You can build a Sonex B or Waiex B from a kit, including engine, avionics, etc for 40k.   All from pre-fab pieces.  800 to 1k hours to build.   And for 40 grand, you get a DAMN nice airplane with 165 mph cruise (depending on engine option), low cost to operate, and great range.

That flying car has a MAX speed of 112 mph in the air?   lol.   You could build a pietenpohl from scratch out of wood and fabric for less than 10k and beat that!
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 1:18:02 AM EDT
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if you have the ability to fly...then why want or need a road when you have landing pads ?
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 1:36:32 AM EDT
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LOL
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 1:51:00 AM EDT
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Don't believe advertisements.  None of that is close to reality, especially a 112 mph Piet!

I looked at Monnet's ads; holy cow, he must be channeling Jim Bede these days.
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So what is the real cruise speed of a sonex b at 8k feet with a turbovee?
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 1:53:30 AM EDT
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FPNI ...
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 1:53:43 AM EDT
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Meh, I'd rather hit up Goldie Wilson Hover Conversion Systems for a tenth the cost.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 1:55:36 AM EDT
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I came for a Moller, I left disappointed


As usual
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 1:55:38 AM EDT
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400k for a piece of shit LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Its just like Lycoming charging $30k for a 60 year old carb'd motor that only makes <130hp (i.e. the HO360). Only possible motor you can get in the R22.

No one has the balls to slap on a 90s toyota motor that makes double the power, weighs a 3rd, costs $2000 new from a dealer, $500 used on craigslist, and will do tens of thousands of hours before "needing" a re-haul. Yeah, those shitty aircraft motors require fucking rebuilds after only 2000 hours. It costs $15 grand. To do a fucking simple bore & hone over!

For reference you can goto any competent shop for the same amount of money and have them build you a 1200hp N/A longblock. From used rusted-out cores.
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Only 39,999.95
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 2:02:42 AM EDT
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This product will never take off.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 2:24:28 AM EDT
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400k for a piece of shit LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Its just like Lycoming charging $30k for a 60 year old carb'd motor that only makes <130hp (i.e. the HO360). Only possible motor you can get in the R22.

No one has the balls to slap on a 90s toyota motor that makes double the power, weighs a 3rd, costs $2000 new from a dealer, $500 used on craigslist, and will do tens of thousands of hours before "needing" a re-haul. Yeah, those shitty aircraft motors require fucking rebuilds after only 2000 hours. It costs $15 grand. To do a fucking simple bore & hone over!

For reference you can goto any competent shop for the same amount of money and have them build you a 1200hp N/A longblock. From used rusted-out cores.
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There are plenty of auto engines in experimental planes.  Nobody is going to STC one onto a Cessna however.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 2:36:29 AM EDT
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Apparently you're too young to know about the Aerocar.



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I don't think the rotor's extended when driving. 
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Of course not, so when they do it's gone for sure.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 3:14:14 AM EDT
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Not a car, but the Moller has always fascinated me.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 3:33:51 AM EDT
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Not a car, but the Moller has always fascinated me.
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For all 50 years of development?
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 3:38:00 AM EDT
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That shit looks gay as fuck.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 3:40:51 AM EDT
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Little Nellie won't have many suitors.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 3:44:51 AM EDT
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This area is restricted.  What are you doing here?

"I'm working.  What are you doing?"



Arresting you.  That's what I'm doing.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 3:46:15 AM EDT
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I'll take the $50,000 car and $350,000 plane please.
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Not a car, but the Moller has always fascinated me.
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The skycar will fascinate me when it actually flies.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 4:25:25 AM EDT
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This is a bad one, Deck.


The worst yet.



I need the old Bladerunner.  I need your magic.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 4:35:30 AM EDT
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400k for a piece of shit LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Its just like Lycoming charging $30k for a 60 year old carb'd motor that only makes <130hp (i.e. the HO360). Only possible motor you can get in the R22.

No one has the balls to slap on a 90s toyota motor that makes double the power, weighs a 3rd, costs $2000 new from a dealer, $500 used on craigslist, and will do tens of thousands of hours before "needing" a re-haul. Yeah, those shitty aircraft motors require fucking rebuilds after only 2000 hours. It costs $15 grand. To do a fucking simple bore & hone over!

For reference you can goto any competent shop for the same amount of money and have them build you a 1200hp N/A longblock. From used rusted-out cores.
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It is FAA certification regulations and liability exposure that makes it cost what it does. Flying certified equipment will always be expensive. 
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 5:42:28 AM EDT
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What happened to Terrafugia?
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 5:49:42 AM EDT
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400k for a piece of shit LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Its just like Lycoming charging $30k for a 60 year old carb'd motor that only makes <130hp (i.e. the HO360). Only possible motor you can get in the R22.

No one has the balls to slap on a 90s toyota motor that makes double the power, weighs a 3rd, costs $2000 new from a dealer, $500 used on craigslist, and will do tens of thousands of hours before "needing" a re-haul. Yeah, those shitty aircraft motors require fucking rebuilds after only 2000 hours. It costs $15 grand. To do a fucking simple bore & hone over!

For reference you can goto any competent shop for the same amount of money and have them build you a 1200hp N/A longblock. From used rusted-out cores.
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Experimentals use auto engines frequently. They are not without their own set of problems.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 6:41:20 AM EDT
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Does the Air blow cold?
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 6:48:54 AM EDT
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Have to start somewhere.
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It's a flying motorcycle
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Has Moller ever even flown a test article?
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Has Moller ever even flown a test article?
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Has Moller ever even flown a test article?
Tethered only for the full scale one.
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What happened to Terrafugia?
Just 2 more years!!!11!1
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 7:29:30 AM EDT
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There are plenty of auto engines in experimental planes.  Nobody is going to STC one onto a Cessna however.
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A while back, I saw some youtube videos of a Cessna 172 that somebody got a field approval to put a 1.9TDI on.  Not an STC, but I was surprised to see it done as a field approval.
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Eliminates a lot of federal automotive regulations that they would otherwise have to show compliance with (mainly the crash testing stuff, but also less emissions junk on the engine).
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The Aerocar never made it to Production.  IIRC, there were only a few prototypes built. 
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 9:34:39 AM EDT
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The Aerocar never made it to Production.  IIRC, there were only a few prototypes built. 
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The Aerocar never made it to Production.  IIRC, there were only a few prototypes built. 


If I'm not mistaken, there were at least seven.  The pictures are of the early models.  A later model had full fenders and the suspension had an 'adjustable ride height' (medium position for car use, fully extended for takeoff and landing, and wheels pulled up into the fenders -not fully retracted- for flight).
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 9:45:37 AM EDT
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I have been obsessed with DeLoreans ever since my dad showed me the movies when I was a kid. This was my dream car for a long time. After that I have just been waiting for hover conversions.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 9:54:01 AM EDT
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Why would I want my airplane on public roads where it can get into fender benders with other cars?  What would the insurance be like for that?
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 9:58:27 AM EDT
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It looks like fun. Not $400K fun, but I'd like to have one.

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It looks like a gyrocopter, so no VTOL. 
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Still need an airstrip to take off and land.  Useless.

It looks like a helicopter to me. I wonder why it needs an airstrip.

I also wonder what happened to Terrafugia, who's had a flying car for years now (which I suppose has never been approved).
It looks like a gyrocopter, so no VTOL. 
They need to hook up with Jay Carter, he has the jump take-off figured out.
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