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Posted: 9/26/2005 11:15:49 AM EDT
Looks like it's suicidegirls.com
I just wanted to let you know that, thanks to the "War on Porn," SG will be taking down a bunch of photosets and individual photos today. Even the FBI agents paid to surf for porn find this ridiculous, but apparently sending people to jail for pictures of two consenting adults enjoying a little rope bondage is more fucking important than.... I dunno, pick any one of the million of better causes out there that the government could be focusing on. So, I apologise heartily for having to do this, both to the SuicideGirls whose art is being fucked over and the members who are being treated like babies, but we really don't want to get shut down and sent to jail. As soon as legally possible, the photosets and pictures about to be taken down will come back. Until then, bid a fond farewell to your favourite blood-bathing beauties, rope-bound babes, and handcuffed honeys. Apparently they've no place in today's society. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From the post above, and from the over 1000 comments this thread got on that board, the FBI contacted them. That site is a pay site, you need to pony up money to see anything, it's not like a free site that any random kid can wander across if he wants to. This is a for-adults, by-adults, you-have-to-pay site. This is the first casualty I know of in the FBI's new War on Porn.  ETA: I kept digging and it turns out I'm wrong. The FBI did NOT contact SG and did not send any cease and desist letters. Just found this: --------------------------------- As we all know, SG is removing pictures as a pre-emptive response to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and his new front in the "War on Porn". And a lot of people have been asking about what can be done about it. --------------------------------- |
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Posted: 9/26/2005 11:23:07 AM EDT
[#1]
Now I'm not all about porn but that is a straight violation of the 1st amendment IMO.
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Posted: 9/26/2005 11:26:12 AM EDT
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Fucking morality police? What a waste of resources. Catch some illegals (aliens) or terrorists, let the girls create the kind of porn they want and let the consumers buy the kind of porn they want.
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Posted: 9/26/2005 11:26:36 AM EDT
[#3]
where did you get your info from?
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Posted: 9/26/2005 11:27:47 AM EDT
[#4]
The framers did not anticipate the internet, like they did not anticipate full-automatic weapons. The first and second amendments are out of date and need to be re-written. We should just let the UN govern us. 
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Posted: 9/26/2005 11:30:39 AM EDT
[#5]
Can I post a cold link to their site or is that a COC violation? There is much porn there. If you go to the suicidegirls website and go to their forum you shouldn't have a problem finding the thread. |
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Posted: 9/26/2005 11:30:57 AM EDT
[#6]
never mind i see it on there website.
Such a shame to watch the united states go down the toilets faster and faster. This is a recreational thing. The girls enjoy doing this and it looks like they have a nice community there. Let me guess I'm sure goths and punk clothes should be made illegal in the United States now as well  sickening I have no respect for this administration left in me. I wish I could retract my vote. |
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Posted: 9/26/2005 11:33:04 AM EDT
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Actually not according to some child protection acts from the past 10-15 years. They distinguish between different types of material. Obscene stuff such as porn etc is not protected. (I forget the specific acts but there were 2 -3 that I know of from a class last semester) ETA: Not that I think this is ok, I'm just saying they have some sort of laws they are going by... |
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Posted: 9/26/2005 11:33:55 AM EDT
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It's a paysite with age verification...how is this a threat to children? |
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Posted: 9/26/2005 11:34:28 AM EDT
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Ridiculous. Meanwhile, down south, the invasion by criminal aliens continues unabated...
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Posted: 9/26/2005 11:35:11 AM EDT
[#10]
It goes back to probition again. I always thought it would be fun in those times. More smut that will be easier to get ahole of but now WITHOUT any morals. Think 8mm. It still happens anyways though, but it will be happening more often now I bet.
Within the next 10 years just wait for them to show up in the file sharing webs and news groups. |
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Posted: 9/26/2005 11:35:46 AM EDT
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The war on porn is more of a lost cause than the war on drugs.
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Posted: 9/26/2005 11:36:47 AM EDT
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Quityerbitchin. I think all women should wear chadors. I'm going to load up on the stock of the first company to offer a line. Gap or Tommy? Who will be the first Morality Czar?
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Posted: 9/26/2005 11:36:56 AM EDT
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Why are we all in this handbasket? And where are we going in such a hurry?
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Posted: 9/26/2005 11:38:37 AM EDT
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Like I edited to add, I don't this is ok at all, but I'm just offering up some legislation that they (The government) may be using to justify this. Personally, I think kids are going to get a hold of porn if they want it no matter what laws they make up, just like criminals will get guns if they want to. The child protection crap is "feel good" legislation. |
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Posted: 9/26/2005 11:39:37 AM EDT
[#15]
If you haven't kept tabs on the news you have lost MANY MANY MANY freedoms and RIGHTS under this current administration.
We are moving at a very excelerated pace towards a police state and are turning exactly into what we fought to NOT be a part of. Anything else need to be pointed out? oh but I must say that even Europe and Japan know that they can NOT stop people from sexual stimultation no matter what it may be. |
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Posted: 9/26/2005 11:40:33 AM EDT
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Since when is Suicide Girls porn? I thought that was classified as "erotic photography" or "pin up", as there is no actually sex type stuff happening?
You figure that Hustler, and stuff like that would be a lot more subject to the new "porn police" Maybe the .gov is leaving the big porn people alone, as they know the smaller ones won't have the $$$ to fight them. |
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Posted: 9/26/2005 11:40:49 AM EDT
[#17]
I just heard about the "War on Porn" on the radio maybe an hour ago and at first, thought it was the station's idea of a joke....So...um...WTH is going on?
I mean, I am not into porn, but if the guy next door is, WTH do I care if he spends his $ looking at it? I mean, we are not talking kid stuff here....we're talking adults so I don't understand what the crime is? Is there a crime? What is it exactly? Has porn become illegal? Someone clue me in |
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Posted: 9/26/2005 11:41:23 AM EDT
[#18]
I blame Al Gore, if there were no interweb porn would be easy to control. As it stands the US would have to buy copies of China's firewalls to keep all the German stuff out. |
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Posted: 9/26/2005 11:41:26 AM EDT
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Oh, I see. It was a reference to how it is playing out more than a position you are subscribing to personally. I think it's 'feel good' too...but it doesn't feel too good to me. I also agree, kids will get porn. Like they have for a long time. Life will go on. The only thing is they might grow up all fucked up and sexually repressed because there's some bizarre taboo associated with sexuality now. (Like there's way more alcoholism in places where it's taxed so high it's hard to get). |
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Posted: 9/26/2005 11:41:40 AM EDT
[#20]
you got my vote as usual |
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Posted: 9/26/2005 11:42:50 AM EDT
[#21]
yes suicidegirls.com is what I would call human ART. There is no hardcore porn going on here. Just very beautiful women helping people get there rocks off.
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Posted: 9/26/2005 11:42:58 AM EDT
[#22]
Exactly...WTF? Does Playmore need to get a fucking veil or she'll be arrested if she goes out in public (I mistyped that pubic but caught the edit before submitting  ).Damn! ETA an unrelated change |
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Posted: 9/26/2005 11:43:25 AM EDT
[#23]
www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=392272 |
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Posted: 9/26/2005 11:45:52 AM EDT
[#24]
This is a pity. Suicide Girls is hot stuff.
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Posted: 9/26/2005 11:46:35 AM EDT
[#25]
It looks like there are nine+ FBI personnel in the War on Porn, according to this UPI story.
WASHINGTON, DC, United States (UPI) -- The Bush administration reportedly is getting help from the FBI in its war on porn, a campaign that has also become the subject of mischievous humor. Early last month, the FBI`s Washington Field Office began recruiting for a new anti-obscenity squad, reports The Washington Post. The initiative has been designated as one of the top priorities of Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales, says the Post. 'I guess this means we`ve won the war on terror,' one exasperated FBI agent told the newspaper. 'We must not need any more resources for espionage.' The squad will divert eight agents, a supervisor and assorted support staff to gather evidence against 'manufacturers and purveyors' of pornography directed at consenting adults. -------------------------------------------------------------------- In other news, the number of FBI agents assigned to cover the Anthrax attack on Congress in 01 has dropped from 31 to 21, almost the same number of agents that are now assigned to fight the evils of porn. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- In the past year, the FBI says, the number of agents on the case has dropped from 31 to 21, a far cry from the hundreds assigned to the investigation in its early weeks. Despite a $2.5 million reward for information leading to a conviction, the case “is going nowhere”, a former investigator said. The favoured theory has remained consistent: that the culprit is an American scientist who had access to the anthrax. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,11069-1795336,00.html |
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Posted: 9/26/2005 11:48:31 AM EDT
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And I gather it has some rare features in the sense that the girls have total creative/content control over their own stuff. I.e. in the sense that they are empowered regarding the dissemination (no pun intended) of the “exploitive” images. |
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Posted: 9/26/2005 11:48:32 AM EDT
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Link to Suicide girls Website for verification:
Warning BOTD........well duh
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Posted: 9/26/2005 11:50:17 AM EDT
[#28]
Is it work safe? 
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Posted: 9/26/2005 11:51:23 AM EDT
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It is for me.
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Posted: 9/26/2005 11:51:44 AM EDT
[#30]
work safe, doesn't show anything but I wouldn't risk my job by looking at this site.
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Posted: 9/26/2005 11:52:02 AM EDT
[#31]
I guess if you work for the FBI it's fine. Some animals are more equal than others. |
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Posted: 9/26/2005 11:52:19 AM EDT
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Woooo we started another war to lose! If you havnt noticed the feds are professional half-assers, always starting shit they cant finish, then starting something else to distract people from their last hoohah that didnt work out. War on porn, war on drugs. Two wars that obviously cannot be won since they defy the inalienable rights our forefathers were supposedly protecting with the constitution, bill of rights, america, etc. Legislating the moral behavior of consenting, freethinking, adult human beings? WTF?! Is it just me or does this sound like a bad realm for the .gov to be getting into? As previously noted, problems that can be dealt with are ignored
Well what do ya know? Thousands of people marching into this country illegaly to sap on our welfare system and do work for half price and no benefits? Naw thats not a pressing matter of national security, thats good for business. The fact that our govt is cozy with nations KNOWN to support terrorism under the table? Once again this is business that the little man needs to keep his nose out of and leave to the adults.
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Posted: 9/26/2005 11:52:29 AM EDT
[#33]
Nicely put. |
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Posted: 9/26/2005 11:54:19 AM EDT
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So will me having these pictures on my computer or anything make me a criminal or something?
I do have a question for anyone that knows the specifics. How is suicidegirls.com any better then other porn sites? Besides suicidegirls.com looks to have very hot girls, in goth which makes me wonder if I shouldn't get a membership now there just to help them out. |
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Posted: 9/26/2005 11:55:56 AM EDT
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Maybe we should just elect a dictator so he can tell us exactly what is or isn't good for us? This would greatly simplify our current leaders.
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Posted: 9/26/2005 11:57:17 AM EDT
[#36]
WTF???? Suicide Girls kicks ass!
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Posted: 9/26/2005 11:57:40 AM EDT
[#37]
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! 
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Posted: 9/26/2005 12:08:05 PM EDT
[#38]
Hi Ho Hi Ho....
Hi Ho.... It's off to court we go.... where a whole new SCOTUS has been chosen to run us Hi Ho... Hi Ho... Hi Ho Hi Ho... Hi Ho... As a Christian, I don't agree with pr0n... but I also understand that it's the same 1st Amendment which grants me the right to stand on the courthouse steps with a John 3:16 banner. |
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Posted: 9/26/2005 12:10:07 PM EDT
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So, why are they only removing selective content and not shutting the entire site down?
There's still plenty of porno stuff up there, from my brief review. Perhaps the spreads (pun intended) that were removed involved underaged models? Does anyone think it SHOULD be OK to use underaged models? Just askin, because something here doesn't add up. I'd like to see scans of the cease and decist letters. If these guys have counsel, and if the photos involved adult contributors as they say, then their lawyers surely would have advised them to ask the .gov to pound sand. Lots of free publicity, and you wind up winning on first amendment grounds. The only reason that WOULD NOT apply is if the photo groups in question actually had something indefensible about them. Such as the age thing I mentioned, or perhaps the bondage depicted being non-consensual. We have yet to hear the end of this story. I'll be paying attention to what else is out there, but it does seem to me that we're not getting the whole set of facts from either side. |
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Posted: 9/26/2005 12:12:31 PM EDT
[#40]
And I’m not a Christian but I sure don’t want them telling you that you aren’t allowed to stand there with that sign. That’s something that you have a right to do. |
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Posted: 9/26/2005 12:14:30 PM EDT
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What's the current legal test for obscenity/stuff not protected under the 1st amendment?
I remember it as being up to the standards of the local community and lacking all artistic/social value, or something like that. |
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Posted: 9/26/2005 12:15:03 PM EDT
[#42]
I'll know it when I see it. |
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Posted: 9/26/2005 12:18:20 PM EDT
[#43]
there are no underage models here
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Posted: 9/26/2005 12:19:32 PM EDT
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Completely wrong....this country's priorities have gotten majorly fucked up.
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Posted: 9/26/2005 12:24:17 PM EDT
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Woah there, Are you saying SG used underage models without the permission of the guardians? If so, then I'm all for a little law enforcement, but I didn't realize that was the case. Give me more info please. |
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Posted: 9/26/2005 12:27:39 PM EDT
[#46]
Beat me to it. It's just a diversion from all the other failures... especially illegals. |
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Posted: 9/26/2005 12:29:00 PM EDT
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The only difference between most Republicans and Democrats isn't whether they want to run your life or not, but which area. |
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Posted: 9/26/2005 12:31:49 PM EDT
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It's fine with me as long as they don't take my over/under.
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Posted: 9/26/2005 12:33:16 PM EDT
[#49]
Let's just clear this up right now. There are no underage models on SG, and there never were. Somebody invented that fictional BS out of thin air and posted it in this thread. SG does not host child pornography and never has. Now that that's cleared up, you may resume your regularly scheduled trollathon. |
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Posted: 9/26/2005 12:33:30 PM EDT
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"War on Porn" (TM, R, C 2005), brought to you by the "moral" bastards that are probably infinitely more perverted than the "immoral scum" they seek to prosecute.
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