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Posted: 8/2/2009 9:16:17 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/3/2009 3:47:13 PM EST by The_Reaper]
EDIT: Added links to more pages at the bottom of this post
To keep page loading time to a minimum, I won't continue to post the images here. Just the links.

Grandfather passed away a few months ago.

While boxing up some stuff, we found some really old books.

One was a 1914 edition of a New York Sporting Goods mail order catalog.

It belonged to my great-great-grandfather.

Here are two pages I scanned from it.

Remember, it used to be legal to mail order firearms direct to you. Check out the prices.

PAGE 166 shows a .25 caliber colt automatic.

My great-great-grandfather ordered it from this catalog.

My great grandfather inherited it, and when he passed my dad inherited it.

I've shot it once.







per requests, I started scanning and uploading pages beginning with the first page of the firearm section.

It is a little sporadic, going from guns, to cabinets, to guns, to game cleaning, to guns.......

I'll be adding them as I can get them uploaded. Pages 118 through 225 seem relevant to our interests.

I find it interesting how a Colt pistol sells for $22.00, but some shotguns listed sell for more than $500.

I'd love to know what those shotguns are worth today.

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Link Posted: 8/2/2009 9:18:53 AM EST
I'll take ten 1911's......20 Lugers...........50 extra Luger mags.............and 10,00 rounds of ammo.

How much is shipping? .
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 9:19:19 AM EST
22 dollars for a 1911.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 9:20:06 AM EST
It must have been nice to experience freedom.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 9:22:31 AM EST
Very cool. Great prices also.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 9:22:42 AM EST
Originally Posted By Dtrain323i:
22 dollars for a 1911.


In 1914, that was about a week's pay. What can you buy on a week's pay today?
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 9:22:43 AM EST
Wow!
I wish it was like that now, only I bet 22.00 would have been a lot of money back then
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 9:22:50 AM EST
Hmm compensating for inflation i see 1911s and Lugers at around 500$
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 9:24:17 AM EST
I'll take a couple Lugers for $23.50 each please.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 9:24:24 AM EST
I want the Luger its powerful enough to take large game!!!
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 9:25:23 AM EST
Does the catalog have any of the following:
-BAR
-Thompson SMG
-Beltfed MG

I'd love to see pictures and prices
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 9:26:25 AM EST
$22 is a lot of money when you make $100 a month.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 9:27:24 AM EST
Originally Posted By Eazy_E:
Originally Posted By Dtrain323i:
22 dollars for a 1911.


In 1914, that was about a week's pay. What can you buy on a week's pay today?


My Sig 1911 cost me ~ $1,100 out the door... About a weeks pay.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 9:27:53 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/2/2009 9:28:43 AM EST by Clockwork138]
Originally Posted By Rifleguy81:
I want the Luger its powerful enough to take large game!!!

Don't forget the "1,900yd range".
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 9:28:13 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/2/2009 9:29:21 AM EST by Eazy_E]
Originally Posted By alive45acp:
Does the catalog have any of the following:
-BAR
-Thompson SMG
-Beltfed MG

I'd love to see pictures and prices


In 1914, the Thompson and BAR didn't exist. The only real MG were big bastards like the Maxim.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 9:28:17 AM EST
Pretty cool.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 9:28:18 AM EST
Originally Posted By alive45acp:
Does the catalog have any of the following:
-BAR
-Thompson SMG
-Beltfed MG

I'd love to see pictures and prices


I've been tearing the house apart. I KNOW I saw a similar catalog that wasn't quite as old.

It did have full-auto Thompsons in it.

I suspect my grandfather threw it away years ago when he moved in.

My parents are keeping their eyes open though.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 9:28:52 AM EST

Originally Posted By TUMOR:
I'll take ten 1911's......20 Lugers...........50 extra Luger mags.............and 10,00 rounds of ammo.

How much is shipping? .

Sucker I'd sell my house and cash out the 401k max out the credit cards and then sell it all for 900,000% profit on GON and retire...
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 9:29:09 AM EST

Originally Posted By Eazy_E:
Originally Posted By Dtrain323i:
22 dollars for a 1911.


In 1914, that was about a week's pay. What can you buy on a week's pay today?

Depends on the week
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 9:29:51 AM EST
Can I order ten 1911s?
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 9:30:15 AM EST
Originally Posted By alive45acp:
Does the catalog have any of the following:
-BAR
-Thompson SMG
-Beltfed MG

I'd love to see pictures and prices


1914 is too early for the BAR and the Thompson to have been invented. Belt Feds were made, but I don't think Sears sold them.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 9:30:59 AM EST
Originally Posted By Atomic_Ferret:
Originally Posted By Eazy_E:
Originally Posted By Dtrain323i:
22 dollars for a 1911.


In 1914, that was about a week's pay. What can you buy on a week's pay today?


My Sig 1911 cost me ~ $1,100 out the door... About a weeks pay.


What I found interesting is the ratio of magazine price to pistol price. It's really pretty close to what they are today.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 9:31:05 AM EST
9mm range = 1600 yds?

WOW!
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 9:31:10 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 9:31:21 AM EST
$22 in 1914 is equivalent to just about $500 now.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 9:32:58 AM EST
Originally Posted By DKing:

Originally Posted By Eazy_E:
Originally Posted By Dtrain323i:
22 dollars for a 1911.


In 1914, that was about a week's pay. What can you buy on a week's pay today?

Depends on the week


Also depends on how many hookers I drive by on the way home
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 9:35:21 AM EST
Originally Posted By dazeke352:
Wow!
I wish it was like that now, only I bet 22.00 would have been a lot of money back then


You could buy a new car for $800 by comparison.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 9:36:08 AM EST
Its kinda' funny to see those being sold from a company out of NEW YORK!
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 9:40:59 AM EST
I think those Savage auto pistols are friggin sweet. I'd like to pick one up if i get the chance.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 9:42:11 AM EST
luger range 1900 yards?
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 9:42:39 AM EST
Average salary in 1914 was ~$630 a year, or ~$52.50 a month.
A 1911 for half a month's pay?

Average pay for earlier this decade was ~$45,000. or $3,750. Subtract 30% for taxes not present in 1914 and we have ~$2,625 a month.
We still have decent 1911's for about half a month's pay, or even less for a basic 1911.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 9:44:22 AM EST

Originally Posted By Eazy_E:
Originally Posted By Dtrain323i:
22 dollars for a 1911.


In 1914, that was about a week's pay. What can you buy on a week's pay today?

Me? Oh, probably 400 rounds of .223. That's about it. A 1911 would take me about 5 paychecks.


Part time at minimum wage sucks.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 9:44:46 AM EST
What's with the stigma on suppressors today? Wouldn't it make sense to quiet the report as much as possible on a rifle? I mean, the local motocross track damn near got shut down due to noise pollution. How did it come about that I needed to jump through my ass, rub my tummy and pat my head and the same time, and send 200 bones to the BATFE in order to get the cans I have?
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 9:45:37 AM EST
AWESOME POST ! Try giving them a call and see if they'll honor their advertised prices...
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 9:45:54 AM EST

Originally Posted By doorgunner84:
What's with the stigma on suppressors today? Wouldn't it make sense to quiet the report as much as possible on a rifle? I mean, the local motocross track damn near got shut down due to noise pollution. How did it come about that I needed to jump through my ass, rub my tummy and pat my head and the same time, and send 200 bones to the BATFE in order to get the cans I have?

Because people watch too many movies and think silencers are only for assassins and criminals.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 9:46:46 AM EST

Originally Posted By doorgunner84:
What's with the stigma on suppressors today? Wouldn't it make sense to quiet the report as much as possible on a rifle? I mean, the local motocross track damn near got shut down due to noise pollution. How did it come about that I needed to jump through my ass, rub my tummy and pat my head and the same time, and send 200 bones to the BATFE in order to get the cans I have?

It's fucked, but what isn't?
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 9:53:04 AM EST
Originally Posted By doorgunner84:
What's with the stigma on suppressors today? Wouldn't it make sense to quiet the report as much as possible on a rifle? I mean, the local motocross track damn near got shut down due to noise pollution. How did it come about that I needed to jump through my ass, rub my tummy and pat my head and the same time, and send 200 bones to the BATFE in order to get the cans I have?


During the depression people where using silencers to illegally hunt game and thats why they are "special" now
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 9:56:04 AM EST
Remember, it used to be legal to mail order firearms direct to you.


I grew up reading those ads in my dad's magazines........with one hand. That mail order stuff changed with the 1968 Gun Control Act, because of the Kennedy assassinations.

Link Posted: 8/2/2009 9:56:32 AM EST
Originally Posted By FLATFOOT762:
Its kinda' funny to see those being sold from a company out of NEW YORK!


makes sense to me seeing almost every American made firearm back then was manufactured in the north east.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:02:34 AM EST
In before Dave_A tells us how inflation is good for us.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:03:34 AM EST
Wow!! If only I had a time machine.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:04:58 AM EST
How about $190 for a semi-auto 20mm?

Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:07:04 AM EST
I don't know how much time you have on your hands, but... I would LOVE to see more pages from that catalog! That stuff is really interesting.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:10:13 AM EST
These pages should be framed and hung on the wall of your gun room.

Who doesn't have a gun room?
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:11:37 AM EST
Originally Posted By tc2k11:
It must have been nice to experience freedom.


Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:15:03 AM EST
This post should be required reading for everybody.

Great stuff. Real history.

When men were men, since we're all pussys now...
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:15:40 AM EST
No,

$22 back then was a $20 gold piece and 2 silver dollars, just shy of $1000 today.

Ed
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:15:41 AM EST
I'll take the 20 mm for a long range hunting rifle. I don't particularly care to get too close to a griz or a polar bear.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:16:38 AM EST
A time machine, $1000, and a shit ton of cosmolene and you could be a millionaire.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:19:17 AM EST
The_Reaper - can you tease me some more and show me the Broomhandle Mauser with its stock.
Link Posted: 8/2/2009 10:22:58 AM EST
Originally Posted By JBlitzen:
$22 in 1914 is equivalent to just about $500 now.


From the BLS...

$22 in 1914 dollars is equal to $474.52 in 2009 dollars.

RF
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