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Posted: 3/15/2007 12:43:45 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/15/2007 12:45:22 PM EDT
[#1]
DFENSE
Link Posted: 3/15/2007 12:47:08 PM EDT
[#2]
Your legal recourse depends on how much discretion your legislature has given the Bureau of Motor Vehicles in your state. If the rules for exclusion you listed are codified, I'd say you've got a chance. If they are not, then it is likely that Indiana law grants the BMV discretion, in which case you're probably SOL.

It all depends.
Link Posted: 3/15/2007 12:47:22 PM EDT
[#3]
1911 was the year my grandpa was born. That's why I want the plate.
Link Posted: 3/15/2007 12:52:12 PM EDT
[#4]



your legal recourse depends on how deep your pockets are.

i'd say, take the 15K that yoru lawyer is going to need to fight this, and buy an M16 instead.


Link Posted: 3/15/2007 12:52:19 PM EDT
[#5]
Link Posted: 3/15/2007 12:53:05 PM EDT
[#6]

I have had an Indiana state-issued firearm-related personalized license plate on my vehicle for a few years now. I recently applied to renew it and was denied. The rules for exclusion include anything vulgar, drug or alcohol related, derogatory, or violent. They denied my plate on the grounds of violence -- and my plate just states a model of a Colt firearm. I filed an appeal and wrote my state governor and the NRA. I received notification today that it has been denied for a second time, and that the Bureau of Motor Vehicles has dropped all firearms-related personalized plates.


I have no idea about legal routes for ya . If it were me I would keep pushing the issue . Contact your local state rep , and dont stop .

Sounds like some one new got the "editor" job or they are using a word program of some sort .
Link Posted: 3/15/2007 12:55:49 PM EDT
[#7]
Which model, Sporter or Python?

Link Posted: 3/15/2007 12:56:00 PM EDT
[#8]
I say you apply for the A55ORGY plate and see if that makes it through.  
Link Posted: 3/15/2007 12:56:11 PM EDT
[#9]
Link Posted: 3/15/2007 12:57:48 PM EDT
[#10]
My state would not let me have VTECSUX on my plates becuase sucks is not a nice word our how ever thier stupid ass wanted to explain it.
Link Posted: 3/15/2007 12:58:13 PM EDT
[#11]
Uh...the code they cite, and what they printed don't jive.


IC 9-18-15-4
Applications; letter and number combination restrictions
    Sec. 4. (a) A person who applies for:
       (1) a personalized license plate; or
       (2) the renewal of a personalized license plate in the subsequent period;
must file an application in the manner the bureau requires, indicating the combination of letters or numerals, or both, requested as a registration number.
   (b) The bureau may refuse to issue a combination of letters or numerals, or both, that:
       (1) carries a connotation offensive to good taste and decency; or
       (2) would be misleading.

That's all it says.
Link Posted: 3/15/2007 1:00:43 PM EDT
[#12]
I had "AR15M4A3" while living in NY of all places.
Link Posted: 3/15/2007 1:01:51 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
I say you apply for the A55ORGY plate and see if that makes it through.  


Link Posted: 3/15/2007 1:02:23 PM EDT
[#14]
Arfcom Minutemen: Time to "Zumbo" the state of Indiana!

CHAIRBORNE, HOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
Link Posted: 3/15/2007 1:08:49 PM EDT
[#15]
Link Posted: 3/15/2007 1:11:54 PM EDT
[#16]
I had no problem with USGI45 and M14 FAN going thru.
Link Posted: 3/15/2007 2:08:27 PM EDT
[#17]
Just change it to "KOOL-AID"  
Link Posted: 3/15/2007 2:17:53 PM EDT
[#18]
I want CZ75 9MM for a custom plate. Or UZI 4 U like Bert has in Tremors.
Link Posted: 3/15/2007 2:19:22 PM EDT
[#19]

and my plate just states a model of a Colt firearm.


Well, "Colt 45" IS the name of a malt liquor......
Link Posted: 3/15/2007 2:23:30 PM EDT
[#20]
tag.  David, I wish I could add some advice, but I saw your thread in the IN HTF and all I can say is, best of luck, buddy!
Link Posted: 3/15/2007 2:39:12 PM EDT
[#21]
A guy in ohio got his plate, then they recalled it ,and made him turn it in  3M TA3 was the number. DMV must found a mirror.
Link Posted: 3/15/2007 7:20:16 PM EDT
[#22]
Off topic, but I always find the threads on www.thesmokinggun.com about people's complaints about vanity plates funny.

Link

Another Link

Yet another link
Link Posted: 3/16/2007 1:11:32 PM EDT
[#23]
Link Posted: 3/16/2007 1:19:19 PM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:
Well, some good news of sorts. My State Senator HAND DELIVERED a letter to the Office of the Commissioner of the BMV today:


State of Indiana Senate

Senator Brent Steele          
200 West Washington Street
Indianapolis, Indiana 46204
(800) 382-9467
[email protected]

Committees:
Corrections, Criminal & Civil Matters, Chair
Ethics
Judiciary
Rules and Legislative Procedure
Insurance and Financial Institutions                        
Commerce, Public Policy & Interstate Cooperation


March 16, 2007

Ronald L. Stiver
Commissioner
Indiana Bureau of Motor Vehicles
100 N. Senate Ave
Indianapolis, IN 46204

Dear Commissioner Stiver:

I was contacted this morning by my constituent, (M4Madness).  I am writing to you because I find the experience that (M4Madness) had in attempting to renew his personalized license plate reprehensible.  Several years ago, (M4Madness) applied for and was issued a personalized license plate that reads "COLT M16.”  (M4Madness) applied for renewal and has been successful in renewing his "COLT M16" plate for several years.  This year, (M4Madness) applied for a renewal, but it was denied because the Bureau determined that the words were "unacceptable." He then filed an appeal, which was denied.

I understand that pursuant to IC 9-18-15-4, the Bureau may refuse to issue a combination of letters or numerals, or both, that carries a connotation offensive to good taste and decency or would be misleading.  Because the Bureau has denied the renewal because "COLT M16" is unacceptable, I assume that it is your position that the license plate is offensive to good taste and decency because it is inconceivable that it is misleading.

Because I cannot understand how the Bureau has suddenly determined that "COLT M16" is unacceptable after several years of finding it acceptable, please forward to my Senate office all materials regarding the denial of his license plate renewal, including but not limited to, any documents relating to his appeal of the Bureau's decision. Additionally, I request specific detailed reasons as to why this decision was made.

I do not believe that the majority of Hoosiers would find the words "COLT M16" offensive or misleading.  In fact, I have no hesitation in using either of those words in normal conversation.  (M4Madness) lawfully possesses a Colt M16 and also considers his "COLT M16" license plate to be a sign of his support of the United States soldiers who have carried this firearm in defense of our country for almost fifty years.  Obviously, he is distressed that he will be unable to continue to do so because of a seemingly arbitrary decision made by the Bureau.

I look forward to your assistance in addressing this matter.

Thanking you in advance, I remain,


Sincerely,



Brent Steele

Indiana State Senator




Daaaaaaaaaaaamn, kick ass bro........someone else at the DMV might be needin that assorgy thingy.
Link Posted: 3/16/2007 1:35:28 PM EDT
[#25]
Wow, your senator is the fucking man...
Link Posted: 3/16/2007 1:41:45 PM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:
Wow, your senator is the fucking man...


+1

The force is strong in that one.
Link Posted: 3/16/2007 1:43:02 PM EDT
[#27]
OH MY GOD I WAS OFFENDED BY A LICENSE PLATE!!!!!!


Stupid busy bodies who can't find anything better to do than to try and mess with other people.
Link Posted: 3/16/2007 1:43:33 PM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:
Wow, your senator is the fucking man...


No doubt!!!!!    
Link Posted: 3/16/2007 1:44:38 PM EDT
[#29]
You have one hell of a Senator, considering the current crop of ass hats.
Well done, you should also be commended for your efforts.

Carry on.......
Link Posted: 3/16/2007 1:44:51 PM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:
Wow, your senator is the fucking man...


No doubt...You owe him some volunteer time next election.
Link Posted: 3/16/2007 1:55:22 PM EDT
[#31]
WAY TO GO! ACTUALLY GOT THE SYSTEM TO WORK - NOW LETS SEE IF THEY WILL USE THEIR COLLECTIVE BRAINS AND REVERSE THE DECISION.

Obviously it sounds like you have much support!
Link Posted: 3/16/2007 1:55:34 PM EDT
[#32]
My Seargant at work here in AR has  500 S W for one of his trucks and 460WTHBY for the other.
Link Posted: 3/16/2007 1:58:31 PM EDT
[#33]
ARF 556 (ARF 223, ARF 308)Looks pretty vague but the hardcore would see it and get it.

50 BMG(I want this one)

EBR SBR

M4 EBR A3
Link Posted: 3/16/2007 2:06:42 PM EDT
[#34]

Quoted:
Wow, your senator is the fucking man...


No shit!

Regardless of how this works out I say you need to campaign for him when the time comes.
Link Posted: 3/16/2007 2:16:15 PM EDT
[#35]
Link Posted: 3/16/2007 2:16:22 PM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:
Wow, your senator is the fucking man...


Hell, just look at his name. With a name like that, he could be either a soap star hunk or a porn star.  

Link Posted: 3/16/2007 2:20:37 PM EDT
[#37]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Wow, your senator is the fucking man...


+1

The force is strong in that one.



Link Posted: 3/16/2007 2:24:01 PM EDT
[#38]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Well, some good news of sorts. My State Senator HAND DELIVERED a letter to the Office of the Commissioner of the BMV today:


State of Indiana Senate

Senator Brent Steele          
200 West Washington Street
Indianapolis, Indiana 46204
(800) 382-9467
[email protected]

Committees:
Corrections, Criminal & Civil Matters, Chair
Ethics
Judiciary
Rules and Legislative Procedure
Insurance and Financial Institutions                        
Commerce, Public Policy & Interstate Cooperation


March 16, 2007

Ronald L. Stiver
Commissioner
Indiana Bureau of Motor Vehicles
100 N. Senate Ave
Indianapolis, IN 46204

Dear Commissioner Stiver:

I was contacted this morning by my constituent, (M4Madness).  I am writing to you because I find the experience that (M4Madness) had in attempting to renew his personalized license plate reprehensible.  Several years ago, (M4Madness) applied for and was issued a personalized license plate that reads "COLT M16.”  (M4Madness) applied for renewal and has been successful in renewing his "COLT M16" plate for several years.  This year, (M4Madness) applied for a renewal, but it was denied because the Bureau determined that the words were "unacceptable." He then filed an appeal, which was denied.

I understand that pursuant to IC 9-18-15-4, the Bureau may refuse to issue a combination of letters or numerals, or both, that carries a connotation offensive to good taste and decency or would be misleading.  Because the Bureau has denied the renewal because "COLT M16" is unacceptable, I assume that it is your position that the license plate is offensive to good taste and decency because it is inconceivable that it is misleading.

Because I cannot understand how the Bureau has suddenly determined that "COLT M16" is unacceptable after several years of finding it acceptable, please forward to my Senate office all materials regarding the denial of his license plate renewal, including but not limited to, any documents relating to his appeal of the Bureau's decision. Additionally, I request specific detailed reasons as to why this decision was made.

I do not believe that the majority of Hoosiers would find the words "COLT M16" offensive or misleading.  In fact, I have no hesitation in using either of those words in normal conversation.  (M4Madness) lawfully possesses a Colt M16 and also considers his "COLT M16" license plate to be a sign of his support of the United States soldiers who have carried this firearm in defense of our country for almost fifty years.  Obviously, he is distressed that he will be unable to continue to do so because of a seemingly arbitrary decision made by the Bureau.

I look forward to your assistance in addressing this matter.

Thanking you in advance, I remain,


Sincerely,



Brent Steele

Indiana State Senator




Daaaaaaaaaaaamn, kick ass bro........someone else at the DMV might be needin that assorgy thingy.


sweeeet
Link Posted: 3/16/2007 2:26:08 PM EDT
[#39]
Absolutely bitchin' reply from the good Senator!
Link Posted: 3/16/2007 2:28:32 PM EDT
[#40]
I have a vanity on my bike it says BYBYAPD APD=Albany Police Department  
Link Posted: 3/16/2007 2:35:26 PM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:
A guy in ohio got his plate, then they recalled it ,and made him turn it in  3M TA3 was the number. DMV must found a mirror.


A  friend told me to try  that plate number
Link Posted: 3/17/2007 5:26:20 AM EDT
[#42]
Link Posted: 3/17/2007 5:44:37 AM EDT
[#43]
Brent Steele=the man.
Link Posted: 3/17/2007 6:01:37 AM EDT
[#44]
Link Posted: 3/17/2007 6:34:39 AM EDT
[#45]
Please ask your senator if he'd mind running for president in 2008.

He's got my vote.

-Gator
Link Posted: 3/17/2007 6:43:38 AM EDT
[#46]

Quoted:
OH MY GOD I WAS OFFENDED BY A LICENSE PLATE!!!!!!



Stupid busy bodies who can't find anything better to do than to try and mess with other people.


I'd say that summarizes the qualifications required for employment at any DMV.

Nice job, M4.  And kudos to your Senator.
Link Posted: 3/17/2007 7:02:17 AM EDT
[#47]
Link Posted: 3/17/2007 11:14:55 AM EDT
[#48]

Quoted:

Daaaaaaaaaaaamn, kick ass bro........someone else at the DMV might be needin that assorgy thingy.


+1

"Brent Steele".

That's a real "man's" name. Biff Crowley, Chuck Nowles, Jack Spiker...and now...Brent Steele.

"Bent steel?" NO! ...Brent Steele...the last of a dying breed.
Link Posted: 3/17/2007 12:19:56 PM EDT
[#49]
Link Posted: 3/17/2007 12:24:08 PM EDT
[#50]

Quoted:
My State Representative Eric Koch just sent me a brief e-mail reply a moment ago:


I'll go to work on this first thing Monday and will get back with you.  

Best wishes,

Eric Koch


Another "real man's" name -- Koch.


Doesn't sound like a guy you would want to heckle.
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