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Posted: 9/4/2005 7:38:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/9/2005 7:51:48 PM EDT by FiveO]
A buddy of mine who is a pilot (assigned to HQ in DC) for Customs/ICE/Homeland Security/Customs and Border Protection or whatever they are calling themselves today is in Hammond, LA with an ass load of Federal LE air assets which are for the most part now under the CBP.

Anyway they had already sent BORSTAR (Border Patrol Search, Trauma, and Rescue) teams to the area but with the unexpected violence called in their BORTAC (Border Patrol Tactical Team) and SRT types.

Anyway they have been flying scattered missions since Wednesday but Friday night during a big meeting a rep of the NOPD told them that there was a section of NO that the PD has not been able to "pacify" due to heavy gunfire and needed to be "reclaimed" (the NOPD guy's words). They were asking for help.

Well CPB (among a few other agencies) had about 100 tactical types on scene by then and over 30 aircraft.

After some discussion they decided to mount what amounts to a classic Air Assault.

About 10 aircraft (Blackhawks, Hueys and A Stars) and around 100 agents flew to the area, established a LZ and came in fast.

He said there were no reports of gunfire on arrival but there have been several sniper rounds fired and an actual exchange or two.

The area was secured and they began moving the willing out ASAP and the locals rolled on in.

He said that this was unprecedented in Federal Law Enforcement and in Law Enforcement in general as far as he knew.

Some of it was videotaped and photographed so hopefully when he gets home he can pass some of it on.

Just thought this was interesting (Ominous for our tin-foil hatters I'm sure!) and wanted to pass it on. I guess a bunch of interesting things like this will never make the news...
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 7:40:39 PM EDT
All they needed was some psyops bird playing "Ride of the Valkyrie." Smells like... Victory!
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 7:40:47 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 7:42:42 PM EDT
Thanks for the report.
Guys like you with people reporting out from the inside have to keep getting this stuff out. It is important to hear these stories.
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 7:52:32 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 7:57:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/4/2005 7:57:31 PM EDT by FiveO]
I also found it interesting that the Customs/BP P-3 Orions are flying as airborne air traffic control for the entire area.
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 7:57:24 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/4/2005 8:08:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FiveO:
I also found it interesting that the Customs/BP P-3 Orions are flying as airborne air traffic control for the entire area.



I read on Arfcom that it was an AWACS! Which is it?!
Link Posted: 9/4/2005 8:10:35 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/4/2005 8:11:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/4/2005 8:14:48 PM EDT by captainpooby]

Originally Posted By JustinOK34:

Originally Posted By FiveO:
I also found it interesting that the Customs/BP P-3 Orions are flying as airborne air traffic control for the entire area.



I read on Arfcom that it was an AWACS! Which is it?!



They have P3 AWACS.

Link Posted: 9/4/2005 8:12:17 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/4/2005 8:32:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/4/2005 8:33:57 PM EDT by FiveO]

Originally Posted By captainpooby:

Originally Posted By JustinOK34:

Originally Posted By FiveO:
I also found it interesting that the Customs/BP P-3 Orions are flying as airborne air traffic control for the entire area.



I read on Arfcom that it was an AWACS! Which is it?!



They have P3 AWACS.

www.geocities.com/lucktam/awacs/jpgs/p3aew.jpg



Yep, P-3 AEWs.

CBP assets on scene. (Slightly dated now, I think.)

Link Posted: 9/4/2005 8:38:46 PM EDT
Pic of my Bud from a year or so ago.

Nice paint on that Hawk, eh?

Link Posted: 9/9/2005 7:52:06 PM EDT
Again interesting...

It is not winding down as much as network TV is implying...

I talked to my bud this evening and he said that tody a ATF Agent in Charge called saying he had some guys taking fire in a outer NO neighborhood and were for all purposes pinned down.

They launched a Blackhawk with a small group of Aviation Enforcement Officers and headed out. They inserted the team and then spotted three armed men run into a house a block or so over. The AEO team helped the ATF team bracket the building and shots were fired. They made entry arresting all three. Recovered was a stash of looted property and weapons. It was believed that one of the men was responsible for numerous instances of shooting at helicopters.

Otherwise they have been flying supplies here and there, moving officers and agents here and there and AN AMMO DROP TO ONE OF THE NOPD DISTRICTS during the first days.

Crazy stuff!

He said NO reeks to the point of retching even from inside a heli!

He says he can not even begin to wrap his mind around the level of destruction in that area.
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 7:57:42 PM EDT
3 less bad guys
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 8:00:28 PM EDT
New Orleans can be a fun town:



CWO
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 8:05:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CWO:
New Orleans can be a fun town:

www.gonemovies.com/www/MyWebFilms/Oorlog/ApocalypseHelicopter2.jpg

CWO



Charlie don't surf!
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 8:10:22 PM EDT
That black and gold does make for a sharp looking chopper.
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 8:14:11 PM EDT
Why can't we get this type of response from the government on illegals crossing the US borders?
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 8:15:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Spade:
That black and gold does make for a sharp looking chopper.




I think he was talking about "THE HOMELAND"
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 8:16:30 PM EDT
From the CBP website:




Link Posted: 9/9/2005 8:21:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/9/2005 8:23:13 PM EDT by FiveO]

Originally Posted By Citabria7GCBC:

Originally Posted By Spade:
That black and gold does make for a sharp looking chopper.




I think he was talking about "THE HOMELAND"



Naw, I like the black and gold.

BTW it reads "Protecting the Homeland."


Originally Posted By Win_88:
Why can't we get this type of response from the government on illegals crossing the US borders?



No shit. My bud gets mad just thinking about the ambiguity in the role but be assured, they do scoop up piles of them but it is still a finger in a dike.



Originally Posted By brushdog:
From the CBP website:

206.241.31.147/ImageCache/cgov/content/newsroom/photogallery/border_5fpatrol/10_2ectt/v1/image/1/10med.jpg

206.241.31.147/ImageCache/cgov/content/newsroom/photogallery/cbp_5fprotecting_5famerica/07_5f2heli_2ectt/v1/image/1/07_5f2heli_5f270.jpg



Yep, that is the new paint scheme. Only on a very few birds from what I've heard. Many growing pains to put it mildly.
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 8:22:49 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/9/2005 8:25:07 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/9/2005 8:27:09 PM EDT
Here's another, closer shot.

Link Posted: 9/9/2005 8:28:26 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/9/2005 8:29:03 PM EDT
US Customs and Border Protection have a fleet of 8 P-3B AEW aircraft and 8 "Slick" P-3B aircraft.

"The Customs P-3 aircraft has long been an effective tool against illegal narcotics trafficking, and since Sept.11 it also has been providing surveillance support for our nation's homeland-security efforts," said David J. Posek, President of Lockheed Martin Aircraft & Logistics Centers. "Lockheed Martin is proud to continue its role in this very important program."

During the last 18 years, Lockheed Martin has modified eight Airborne Early Warning (AEW) aircraft and eight Slicks for Customs, the last of which was delivered in February 2002.

The Customs P-3 AEW aircraft are P-3Bs that have 24-ft. radomes that are mounted on top of the fuselage and house a variant of the Navy's E-2C "Hawkeye" APS-145 radar antenna. These aircraft primarily are used for long-range surveillance and drug interdiction, with their primary mission being to detect, identify, classify and track aircraft and maritime surface craft.

The P-3Bs have a 4,400 naut. mi. range and can stay aloft for up to 14 hr., compared to twin-engine commercial aircraft that typically have to add bladder fuel cells to meet the required range and time-on-station requirements. These fuel cells and their associated weight can substantially decrease an aircraft's mission system payload capability, as well as restrict the weight-and-balance ranges of the aircraft.
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 8:29:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FiveO:
Pic of my Bud from a year or so ago.

Nice paint on that Hawk, eh?

www.gulftel.com/tnolfe/custair.jpg



blackhawks look great in glossy paint. Did you see the blackhawk Marine One?
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 8:30:49 PM EDT
I hope the gunfire your buddy is talking about isn't some poor SOB fighting off the confiscation of his firearms! Did you ask you buddy about the confiscations going on?
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 8:36:37 PM EDT
Brushdog, nice pics.

Here is a MD500 from a couple of years ago. Same agency, different name!

Link Posted: 9/9/2005 8:37:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By pcsutton:
I hope the gunfire your buddy is talking about isn't some poor SOB fighting off the confiscation of his firearms! Did you ask you buddy about the confiscations going on?



One of the other threads has a link to a video. The video has some of the footage from the forced evacuations. In the same video, but a different segment it has some footage of the BP SRT and BORTAC guys with the NOLA PD in some kind of armed stand off. It also showed they got a stolen car with some dope and guns.
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 8:38:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FiveO:
Brushdog, nice pics.

Here is a MD500 from a couple of years ago. Same agency, different name!

www.gulftel.com/tnolfe/uschelo.jpg



Thanks, here's a Customs blackhawk leading the BP to a group near Sasabe, AZ.

Link Posted: 9/9/2005 8:39:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By pcsutton:
I hope the gunfire your buddy is talking about isn't some poor SOB fighting off the confiscation of his firearms! Did you ask you buddy about the confiscations going on?



RTFP. Yes I am sure the gangbangers they popped did not want their guns confiscated!

He said they have not been advised to do any forced removals or confications and doubts they will. He says it seems that there is no real unified decision on those topics.
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 8:39:29 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 8:49:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/9/2005 8:50:00 PM EDT by FiveO]
Since we are on a photo roll here is the same guy, different agency, bigger gun!

(He was an Apache IP back in the day.)

Link Posted: 9/9/2005 8:52:44 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/10/2005 2:22:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/10/2005 5:29:12 AM EDT by Steve6]
I miss the 500's.
Link Posted: 9/10/2005 2:03:28 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/10/2005 3:18:17 PM EDT
Sorry, beginning with roughing up the old lady, then gun confiscations, I am now rooting for the home owners.
Link Posted: 9/10/2005 3:49:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By A_Free_Man:
Sorry, beginning with roughing up the old lady, then gun confiscations, I am now rooting for the home owners.



Amen to that.
Link Posted: 9/10/2005 3:55:59 PM EDT
It'll really get ugly when the fast movers come in loaded with snake and nape...
Link Posted: 9/10/2005 4:03:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By A_Free_Man:
Sorry, beginning with roughing up the old lady, then gun confiscations, I am now rooting for the home owners.


Hard to argue against that, but it should be noted that not all the LEO types in NO are participating in this travesty.
Link Posted: 9/10/2005 4:11:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:

Originally Posted By A_Free_Man:
Sorry, beginning with roughing up the old lady, then gun confiscations, I am now rooting for the home owners.


Hard to argue against that, but it should be noted that not all the LEO types in NO are participating in this travesty.



Of course. Those who are doing this are in the minority.
Link Posted: 9/10/2005 4:56:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/10/2005 4:59:46 PM EDT by HELOBRAVO]
If you look on a map I live about an inch off the NW-SE runway at the Hammond airport.
Big homeland security re-do after 911.
1st Cav is out there.
I have been told that 1st district in NO was fending off armed and shooting scum bags yesterday from a cop in Covington.
There will be no forced evacs from NO.
Link Posted: 9/10/2005 7:27:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By HELOBRAVO:
If you look on a map I live about an inch off the NW-SE runway at the Hammond airport.
Big homeland security re-do after 911.
1st Cav is out there.
I have been told that 1st district in NO was fending off armed and shooting scum bags yesterday from a cop in Covington.
There will be no forced evacs from NO.


You are seeing TONS of air traffic, eh?
Link Posted: 9/10/2005 7:28:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:

Originally Posted By A_Free_Man:
Sorry, beginning with roughing up the old lady, then gun confiscations, I am now rooting for the home owners.



Amen to that.



What roughing up, confiscation or home owners from this thread are you two referring to?

Link Posted: 9/10/2005 7:42:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FiveO:

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:

Originally Posted By A_Free_Man:
Sorry, beginning with roughing up the old lady, then gun confiscations, I am now rooting for the home owners.



Amen to that.



What roughing up, confiscation or home owners from this thread are you two referring to?




Not in this thread. In others. I've passed no judgement on your friend because he sounds like a good guy and I've no evidence to the contrary.
Link Posted: 9/10/2005 10:35:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:

Originally Posted By FiveO:

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:

Originally Posted By A_Free_Man:
Sorry, beginning with roughing up the old lady, then gun confiscations, I am now rooting for the home owners.



Amen to that.



What roughing up, confiscation or home owners from this thread are you two referring to?




Not in this thread. In others. I've passed no judgement on your friend because he sounds like a good guy and I've no evidence to the contrary.



OK but then by a free man posting that in this thread it seemed safe to assume that he was now "rooting for" someone other than my friend and the other LEOs in this thread and saying "sorry."

You agreed.
Link Posted: 9/10/2005 10:39:49 PM EDT
I find it a little interesting that you think your friends and other LEOs interests are directly contrary to those of the homeowners. Perhaps you don't think they are on the same side?
Link Posted: 9/10/2005 10:49:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
I find it a little interesting that you think your friends and other LEOs interests are directly contrary to those of the homeowners. Perhaps you don't think they are on the same side?



The point is that there are no "homeowners" listed in this thread unless you assume the thugs referred to own jack shit, especially a home and even if they do then yes, those in this thread have a very distinct conflict of interests with these and any other LEO and no they certainly are not on the same side...

I find it interesting that you agreed with a quick "amen" out of reflex even when a free man's post is totally out of place. What "home owners" is he referring to? Must be ones he sees in this thread cause this is the thread he posted in, eh?

He just wanted to get in a jab and you hoped onboard.

Believe me, if you are NOT "rooting for" my friend and his peer's mission then you don't care about ANY "home owners" in New Orleans.

Link Posted: 9/10/2005 10:55:09 PM EDT
five0 your avitar says it all loud and clear.
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