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Posted: 7/7/2002 4:43:59 PM EST
I was at the gun show today, and came across the table of a man openly selling .308 armor piercing ammunition (black tip). I don't profess to know every aspect of all the gun laws, but I was under the impression that armor piercing ammunition in .308 was illegal. When I asked the vendor about this, he said that federal laws don't apply to him; only state laws. He said that he is neither a federal employee nor conducting business with the federal government, so federal [u]rules[/u] (i.e. administrative code, or ATF rules) don't apply to him. I've probably spent more time in college doing legal research than he will in a lifetime, and he became very defensive when I laughed after he told me this. I'm sure some of you have seen him at the San Antonio shows before. Is he right, or is he a crackpot? [(:|)]
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He's right. Unconstitutional laws are null and void.
Link Posted: 7/7/2002 4:48:54 PM EST
308 AP ammo is not illegal.
Link Posted: 7/7/2002 5:07:11 PM EST
According to the law, it is illegal to MANUFACTURE ARMOR PIERCING PROJECTILES in certain calibers. It is legal to buy, sell, trade, etc. loaded ammunition or components containing ap bullets.
Link Posted: 7/7/2002 5:16:08 PM EST
Originally Posted By Philadelphia_GunMan: 308 AP ammo is not illegal.
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BATF's position is that ANY CALIBER in which a pistol is chambered is restricted under the AP ammo law. This is why you don't see steel core 7.62x39mm ammo anymore, as an AR manufacturer produced a few PROTOTYPE (i.e. never even offered for sale) AR pistols in this caliber. IIRC, Thompson makes a single shot pistol in .308, therefore, if you believe the BATF, 7.62NATO is covered.
Link Posted: 7/7/2002 5:40:30 PM EST
click[url=http://www.atf.treas.gov/firearms/legal/armor.htm]here for the federal law on armor piercing ammunition[/url]
Link Posted: 7/8/2002 6:56:53 PM EST
Link Posted: 7/8/2002 7:06:38 PM EST
Originally Posted By Troy: It is against federal law for [b]an FFL[/b] to sell AP ammo to anyone but gubmint or LEOs. Normal folks can sell it without problems. It is also illegal for anyone BUT properly-licensed FFLs to manufacture AP projectiles, and then only for gubmint sales. But there are no restrictions on surplussed projectiles. Note that .30-06 M2 AP is legally exempted, as is M855 (because the latter is NOT AP). -Troy
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