
Posted: 5/25/2001 9:59:19 PM EDT
I am just a poor ignorant immigrant, but I have been politically involved, read the Constitution etc. So please explain to me how, if the states were all sovereign, that the Federal Government winds up with most of the land, especially out west. Nevada is some 90% owned by the Feds, and California is too.
I mean, who gave them the land? When California wanted to join the Union, the Feds said "Give us 70% of all the land and we'll talk"? I know the Union was worried about California going with the South, so couldn't the state have written their own ticket?
Where does it say in the Constitution that the Federal Government should own all the land anyway?
What am I missing? Where can I find more information about it?
Thanks,
Madkiwi
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The slow erosion of states rights came soon after the Union was formed. The Civil War was the ultimate end to states rights. That is what it was about. The federal govt. came up with the idea of manifest destiny.(the theroy that the US should own land from ocean to ocean.) There is also the idea of eminent domain(the government can take land if it pay a "fair price") These are both land grab schemes.
It seems the govt. always has an excuse. National security, game management etc.
They took the land from the natives and now they are taking it from us, it never changes.
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Well, its probably unconstitutional for them to own land. The idea is that the federals can buy the land like any business, and be seen like that in the eyes of the state, so the state can take back that land through eminent domain, unless that state's legislature gives permission to allow the federals to have exclusive jurisdiction. But when you are dealing with the federals, they tend to usurp power. They now act like they can exercise exclusive jurisdiction over it, but in most cases they can't. The only way to get it back is to have the state seize it, but that might state a war(which would be good anyway).
check out this link on jurisdiction and constitutional issues:
[url]http://www.constitution.org/cs_duepr.htm[/url]
and here as a real good article there
[url]http://www.constitution.org/juris/fedjur1.txt[/url]
there is a lot of great articles there.
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The Feds stopped observing the Constitution long ago (at least, the way it was originally intended).
-Troy
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Originally Posted By madkiwi:
.... So please explain to me how, if the states were all sovereign, that the Federal Government winds up with most of the land, especially out west. Nevada is some 90% owned by the Feds, and California is too.
I mean, who gave them the land? When California wanted to join the Union, the Feds said "Give us 70% of all the land and we'll talk"? I know the Union was worried about California going with the South, so couldn't the state have written their own ticket?
Where does it say in the Constitution that the Federal Government should own all the land anyway?.....
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madkiwi,
You're looking in the wrong document. It's not in the Constitution. It's in the Communist Manifesto! That Constitution thing doesn't apply any more.
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Why buy the cow when the neighbor's cat is in heat?
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The feds acquired the land as prk described, either through purchase or conquest. The intention was to sell or homestead all of it eventually. The good people in our government understood, as Adam Smith points out, that government owned land is used inefficiently.
It says in the constitution that Congress has power:
To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; View Quote The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to Prejudice any Claims of the United States, or of any particular State. View Quote |
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