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Posted: 8/29/2015 11:25:22 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/29/2015 11:49:29 PM EST by grasshoppa]
... And I am. FIL is a warrior. Almost 5 years in SEAsia as a green beret and has the medals to prove it. He's almost 80 years old and he's still a stud. So the wife takes him into my Man Cave and he sees my M1A out where I'm installing a painted stock. I have boxes of ammo out along with my plates along with my punches and the dreaded dremel. Of course, because I know him well, he says "I don't understand why people have those kind of weapons unless they're in the military". I remind the wife that he lives in another country 9 months out of the year because of the crime rate in the USA. Of course the wife then begins to question some of the things I do, which prompts me to say " my first wife said that same shit". You can can guess how the evening turned out.

While I'm a bubba at heart, I provide a good living for my family so it pisses me off beyond words for her or anyone else to question what I do for me to feel pseudo free. Thanks for allowing me to vent. Another Tito's and tonic and I'll probably feel good enough to say "aww, fuck it".
Link Posted: 8/29/2015 11:26:24 PM EST
I must see pictures of this M1a before I can comment.
Link Posted: 8/29/2015 11:27:17 PM EST
I'm going to need pics of the wife and the man cave...
Link Posted: 8/29/2015 11:27:43 PM EST
Pics would be nice

I absolutely hate when people use the term man cave too.
Link Posted: 8/29/2015 11:28:15 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/29/2015 11:28:59 PM EST
Gonna need pics of your feet before i can from an opinion.
Link Posted: 8/29/2015 11:29:51 PM EST
Eject, marriage is over.
Link Posted: 8/29/2015 11:30:06 PM EST
I am waiting for the pics to load.
Link Posted: 8/29/2015 11:30:31 PM EST
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Originally Posted By dpmmn:
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Link Posted: 8/29/2015 11:30:44 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/29/2015 11:32:09 PM EST by skytrooper01]
Just because someone is a veteran doesn't mean they are a conservative or not a douchebag. I know plenty of guys that came back and turned their swords into plowshares and do not continue to live with a warrior mentality.

In fact I have met plenty of guys that claim to have been high speed and when I put a gun in their hands they can't even shoot and then act like its a hot iky potato
Link Posted: 8/29/2015 11:31:27 PM EST
"My first wife said the same shit".


Link Posted: 8/29/2015 11:32:24 PM EST
Fudds gonna Fudd.
Link Posted: 8/29/2015 11:32:53 PM EST
Alright OP, so far counsel has requested pics of:

- M1a
- mancave
- wife

You must score 2 out of 3 to satisfy counsel.
Link Posted: 8/29/2015 11:34:09 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Poop3rscoop3r:
"My first wife said the same shit".


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Link Posted: 8/29/2015 11:34:20 PM EST
Originally Posted By grasshoppa:
... And I am. FIL is a warrior. Almost 5 years in SEAsia as a green beret and has the medals to prove it. He's almost 80 years old and he's still a stud. So the wife takes him into my Man Cave and he sees my M1A out where I'm installing a painted stock. I have boxes of ammo out along with my plates along with my punches and the dreaded dremel. Of course, because I know him well, he says "I don't understand why people have those kind of weapons unless they're in the military". I remind the wife that he lives in another country 9 months out of the year because of the crime rate in the USA. Of course the wife then begins to question some of the things I do, which prompts me to say " my first wife said that same shit". You can can guess how the evening turned out.

While I'm a bubba at heart, I provide a good living for my family so it pisses me off beyond words for her or anyone else to question what I do for me to feel pseudo free. Thanks for allowing me to vent. Another Tito's and tonic and I'll probably feel good enough to say "aww, fuck it".
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Don't stress it. Good on you for providing for your family, let it roll off your back.

FYI, I'll never approach what my Dad did and sacrificed one generation back, but that has no bearing on my love and my care for my wife and my family. Honestly, I'd never let my Dad into my man cave for fear of his massive disapproval. Don't question what you're doing, and love your FIL for what he is and perhaps the greater generation he represents. He won't be around forever. Be the bigger person and embrace what he is. I'm with you, though, and understand the delimma.


Link Posted: 8/29/2015 11:35:38 PM EST
Despite probably having dealt with some tough shit, he's also probably spent several decades isolated from enough of the world to not be aware of the world around him.

If people truly had to worry about nothing other than threats from another country trying to attack our borders with military strength? Sure, but that's not the case and a sign of the times.
Link Posted: 8/29/2015 11:35:39 PM EST
..The things we do to feel Pseudo Free".

That's a good way to put it. Don't worry about the Old Man. He lived his life. Now it's your turn.
Link Posted: 8/29/2015 11:39:21 PM EST
Because this is America. If you don't like it you can get out.

Link Posted: 8/29/2015 11:46:06 PM EST
I will say this dude,you got a pair. Bringing up the ex-wife to the current one is ballsy. Thank the FIL for his service and call it a day.
Link Posted: 8/29/2015 11:50:03 PM EST
He lives out of the country due to the crime rate? The fuck? Can you explain further?
Link Posted: 8/29/2015 11:50:49 PM EST
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This... Excellent response.
Link Posted: 8/29/2015 11:53:46 PM EST
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I've been married three times.

1st wife, rough divorce. We get along fine now.
2nd, dead under questionable circumstances.
3rd, still happily together, and judges her actions based on whether I say "my 1st wife said/did the same shit" or "my 2nd wife said/did the same shit".
Link Posted: 8/29/2015 11:55:14 PM EST
Originally Posted By grasshoppa:
... And I am. FIL is a warrior. Almost 5 years in SEAsia as a green beret and has the medals to prove it. He's almost 80 years old and he's still a stud. So the wife takes him into my Man Cave and he sees my M1A out where I'm installing a painted stock. I have boxes of ammo out along with my plates along with my punches and the dreaded dremel. Of course, because I know him well, he says "I don't understand why people have those kind of weapons unless they're in the military". I remind the wife that he lives in another country 9 months out of the year because of the crime rate in the USA. Of course the wife then begins to question some of the things I do, which prompts me to say " my first wife said that same shit". You can can guess how the evening turned out.

While I'm a bubba at heart, I provide a good living for my family so it pisses me off beyond words for her or anyone else to question what I do for me to feel pseudo free. Thanks for allowing me to vent. Another Tito's and tonic and I'll probably feel good enough to say "aww, fuck it".
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Just out of curiousity, what medals prove 5 years of service in SEA as SF?
Link Posted: 8/29/2015 11:58:21 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Dan_Gray:

I've been married three times.

1st wife, rough divorce. We get along fine now.
2nd, dead under questionable circumstances.
3rd, still happily together, and judges her actions based on whether I say "my 1st wife said/did the same shit" or "my 2nd wife said/did the same shit".
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Originally Posted By Dan_Gray:
Originally Posted By Poop3rscoop3r:
"My first wife said the same shit".



I've been married three times.

1st wife, rough divorce. We get along fine now.
2nd, dead under questionable circumstances.
3rd, still happily together, and judges her actions based on whether I say "my 1st wife said/did the same shit" or "my 2nd wife said/did the same shit".

Is Wife #3 under the impression that Wife #2's questionable demise may not have been a uh... how shall we say... accident?
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 12:00:31 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Locke556:

Is Wife #3 under the impression that Wife #2's questionable demise may not have been a uh... how shall we say... accident?
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Originally Posted By Locke556:
Originally Posted By Dan_Gray:
Originally Posted By Poop3rscoop3r:
"My first wife said the same shit".



I've been married three times.

1st wife, rough divorce. We get along fine now.
2nd, dead under questionable circumstances.
3rd, still happily together, and judges her actions based on whether I say "my 1st wife said/did the same shit" or "my 2nd wife said/did the same shit".

Is Wife #3 under the impression that Wife #2's questionable demise may not have been a uh... how shall we say... accident?

Several of my friends have no problem saying that they think I killed her. I didn't, but of course I'd be expected to say that. I think my wife may have a lingering doubt.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 12:01:29 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Dan_Gray:

I've been married three times.

1st wife, rough divorce. We get along fine now.
2nd, dead under questionable circumstances.
3rd, still happily together, and judges her actions based on whether I say "my 1st wife said/did the same shit" or "my 2nd wife said/did the same shit".
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Originally Posted By Dan_Gray:
Originally Posted By Poop3rscoop3r:
"My first wife said the same shit".



I've been married three times.

1st wife, rough divorce. We get along fine now.
2nd, dead under questionable circumstances.
3rd, still happily together, and judges her actions based on whether I say "my 1st wife said/did the same shit" or "my 2nd wife said/did the same shit".


With more weight given to the 2nd.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 12:05:33 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/30/2015 12:06:05 AM EST by RogueSpear2023]
Tell FIL he fought for your rights so it would be a disgrace to him not to use them
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 12:05:38 AM EST
Why do people own water hoses if they aren't in the fire dept?
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 12:08:55 AM EST
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Originally Posted By rogueboss:
Pics would be nice

I absolutely hate when people use the term man cave too.
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I agree. Absolute hate.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 12:11:51 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Dan_Gray:

Several of my friends have no problem saying that they think I killed her. I didn't, but of course I'd be expected to say that. I think my wife may have a lingering doubt.
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Originally Posted By Dan_Gray:
Originally Posted By Locke556:
Originally Posted By Dan_Gray:
Originally Posted By Poop3rscoop3r:
"My first wife said the same shit".



I've been married three times.

1st wife, rough divorce. We get along fine now.
2nd, dead under questionable circumstances.
3rd, still happily together, and judges her actions based on whether I say "my 1st wife said/did the same shit" or "my 2nd wife said/did the same shit".

Is Wife #3 under the impression that Wife #2's questionable demise may not have been a uh... how shall we say... accident?

Several of my friends have no problem saying that they think I killed her. I didn't, but of course I'd be expected to say that. I think my wife may have a lingering doubt.


This needs it's own thread. How did she die under questionable circumstances?
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 12:11:54 AM EST


"If you think that's weird, you should hear some of the stuff I do to your daughter!"


Link Posted: 8/30/2015 12:13:20 AM EST
You have a good handle on things. They can either get on board or buzz and stay gone.

They are wrong. Plain and simple.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 12:13:43 AM EST
DAY 1
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 12:15:53 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/30/2015 1:17:04 PM EST by grasshoppa]


I went ahead and poured another tito's and tonic and after reading your words of encouragement, you're right. There's nothing to it. Love you bros! Mean it!
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 12:18:45 AM EST
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Originally Posted By grasshoppa:
M1A
<a href="http://s437.photobucket.com/user/simpleman2008/media/m1a.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i437.photobucket.com/albums/qq91/simpleman2008/m1a.jpg</a>
and for all of you 18 year old leg humpers, my wife
<a href="http://s437.photobucket.com/user/simpleman2008/media/ty.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i437.photobucket.com/albums/qq91/simpleman2008/ty.jpg</a>
and my man cave
[URL=http://s437.photobucket.com/user/simpleman2008/media/man%20cave.jpg.html]http://i437.photobucket.com/albums/qq91/simpleman2008/man%20cave.jpg[/URI

I went ahead and poured another tito's and tonic and after reading your words of encouragement, you're right. There's nothing to it. Love you bros! Mean it!
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Havanese?
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 12:22:44 AM EST
I known Marine enlisted and officers who lack any sense.

We all know:

"Once a Marine, always a Marine."

"Every Marine a rifleman."

Thusly, once a Marine, always a rifleman. That's just common sense. Still, some people are just stupid. I avoid stupid people as much as possible.

Link Posted: 8/30/2015 12:24:37 AM EST
Purple heart, bronze star, plus his standard Army picture where the stripes on one of his sleeves state that he's been in a war zone 4.5 years. He's the real deal and his stories are amazing, but he won't talk about it unless you ask specific questions.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 12:25:18 AM EST
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Originally Posted By skytrooper01:
Just because someone is a veteran doesn't mean they are a conservative or not a douchebag. I know plenty of guys that came back and turned their swords into plowshares and do not continue to live with a warrior mentality.
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what does a "warrior mentality" have to do with believing it's ok for non mil to own "military style" guns? The military is rampant with an elitist attitude over civilians, and this is just an example of how some schmuck thinks he's more entitled to something because of his former employment.

Link Posted: 8/30/2015 12:29:37 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Alex_F:


This... Excellent response.
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Originally Posted By Poop3rscoop3r:
"My first wife said the same shit".




This... Excellent response.



More males need to get this point.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 12:32:31 AM EST
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Originally Posted By pinhooker:

what does a "warrior mentality" have to do with believing it's ok for non mil to own "military style" guns? The military is rampant with an elitist attitude over civilians, and this is just an example of how some schmuck thinks he's more entitled to something because of his former employment.

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Originally Posted By skytrooper01:
Just because someone is a veteran doesn't mean they are a conservative or not a douchebag. I know plenty of guys that came back and turned their swords into plowshares and do not continue to live with a warrior mentality.

what does a "warrior mentality" have to do with believing it's ok for non mil to own "military style" guns? The military is rampant with an elitist attitude over civilians, and this is just an example of how some schmuck thinks he's more entitled to something because of his former employment.


Interesting you should say that. He doesn't own a gun and I've talked to him before about that and it boils down to he won't do something he regrets if he doesn't have one. I get it, and that's one of the reasons he lives outside of the USA. He's just very opinionated and shares his views even if no one want's to hear them.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 12:33:56 AM EST
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Originally Posted By grasshoppa:
Purple heart, bronze star, plus his standard Army picture where the stripes on one of his sleeves state that he's been in a war zone 4.5 years. He's the real deal and his stories are amazing, but he won't talk about it unless you ask specific questions.
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OK, Overseas Service Bars. That makes sense, thanks!
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 12:35:11 AM EST
Tell him it looks more normal with the farm animals back in it.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 12:38:48 AM EST
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Originally Posted By FOX184:

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Respiratory distress, Asthma attack according to the DRs. Not too common to have your very first asthma attack at Thanksgiving dinner, at almost 40 years old.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 12:55:31 AM EST
I get your dilemma OP, but you don't owe him or anyone else an explanation on why you decide to exercise you rights!
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 12:59:19 AM EST
Originally Posted By grasshoppa:
... And I am. FIL is a warrior. Almost 5 years in SEAsia as a green beret and has the medals to prove it. He's almost 80 years old and he's still a stud. So the wife takes him into my Man Cave and he sees my M1A out where I'm installing a painted stock. I have boxes of ammo out along with my plates along with my punches and the dreaded dremel. Of course, because I know him well, he says "I don't understand why people have those kind of weapons unless they're in the military". I remind the wife that he lives in another country 9 months out of the year because of the crime rate in the USA. Of course the wife then begins to question some of the things I do, which prompts me to say " my first wife said that same shit". You can can guess how the evening turned out.

While I'm a bubba at heart, I provide a good living for my family so it pisses me off beyond words for her or anyone else to question what I do for me to feel pseudo free. Thanks for allowing me to vent. Another Tito's and tonic and I'll probably feel good enough to say "aww, fuck it".
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Comes from a different time.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 1:21:18 AM EST
Originally Posted By grasshoppa:
... And I am. FIL is a warrior. Almost 5 years in SEAsia as a green beret and has the medals to prove it. He's almost 80 years old and he's still a stud. So the wife takes him into my Man Cave and he sees my M1A out where I'm installing a painted stock. I have boxes of ammo out along with my plates along with my punches and the dreaded dremel. Of course, because I know him well, he says "I don't understand why people have those kind of weapons unless they're in the military". I remind the wife that he lives in another country 9 months out of the year because of the crime rate in the USA. Of course the wife then begins to question some of the things I do, which prompts me to say " my first wife said that same shit". You can can guess how the evening turned out.

While I'm a bubba at heart, I provide a good living for my family so it pisses me off beyond words for her or anyone else to question what I do for me to feel pseudo free. Thanks for allowing me to vent. Another Tito's and tonic and I'll probably feel good enough to say "aww, fuck it".
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What the fuck is up with Arfcom anymore? Why this apologetic beta nonsense?
He's a green beret-fucking awesome, really. But why does that give him authority over your God given freedoms? The majority of everyone here are not HSLD snake eaters, does that somehow make us unworthy of our inherent rights? Be proud of who you are and stop being apologetic for exercising the 2A.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 1:27:41 AM EST
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Originally Posted By pinhooker:

what does a "warrior mentality" have to do with believing it's ok for non mil to own "military style" guns? The military is rampant with an elitist attitude over civilians, and this is just an example of how some schmuck thinks he's more entitled to something because of his former employment.

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Originally Posted By skytrooper01:
Just because someone is a veteran doesn't mean they are a conservative or not a douchebag. I know plenty of guys that came back and turned their swords into plowshares and do not continue to live with a warrior mentality.

what does a "warrior mentality" have to do with believing it's ok for non mil to own "military style" guns? The military is rampant with an elitist attitude over civilians, and this is just an example of how some schmuck thinks he's more entitled to something because of his former employment.




Guy could have been drafted, I know plenty of people that served in the Army who just served in the Army out of circumstance and didn't even like guns. Yeah and they had tabs and everything just played the game to be successful. Only shot at people because they were shot at or their squad leader told them to shoot back I even served with guys that I don't think what if shot back unless they were told to lol
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 1:35:53 AM EST
Explain to him the difference between need and want. If he still doesn't understand, remind him your fucking his daughter and that means you won.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 2:13:22 AM EST
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Originally Posted By grasshoppa:
it boils down to he won't do something he regrets if he doesn't have one.
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Of course, he might regret not doing something he needed to since he doesn't have one

If someone questions my firearms, they have a couple of chances to either understand or get over it before they get the boot.

I even have some liberal friends who have survived that process, so it's not impossible
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 2:46:19 AM EST
Mancave is a defeatist term. The older generation called it a den or workshop.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 2:49:19 AM EST
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Originally Posted By STX:
Explain to him the difference between need and want. If he still doesn't understand, remind him your fucking his daughter and that means you won.
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I like this guy.
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