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Posted: 12/21/2009 10:21:34 AM EDT
usatoday.com/news/quickquestion/2007/november/popup5895.htm

http://www.annarbor.com/news/are-campus-gun-policies-unconstitutional-debate-on-campus-gun-bills-continues/


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Link Posted: 12/21/2009 10:26:45 AM EDT
voted on usa, 97% our way.
Link Posted: 12/21/2009 10:29:02 AM EDT
Voted. 97% for on usa poll, 65% for on other.
Link Posted: 12/21/2009 10:29:55 AM EDT
65 us, 34 them on ann arbor poll.
Link Posted: 12/21/2009 10:30:54 AM EDT
97%, 65%
Link Posted: 12/21/2009 10:32:27 AM EDT
Hit
Link Posted: 12/21/2009 10:32:40 AM EDT
Wow... that poll again?!?!

The USA Today one is from 2007
Link Posted: 12/21/2009 10:38:14 AM EDT
Doest the second amendment give individuals a right to bear arms?

4.9 + million votes

97% YES

2 % NO
Link Posted: 12/21/2009 10:41:25 AM EDT
what kind of asshat wrote the USAToday poll?

is that even serious?
Link Posted: 12/21/2009 10:50:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/21/2009 10:50:59 AM EDT by utahvarminter]
Originally Posted By neoinarien:
what kind of asshat wrote the USAToday poll?

is that even serious?


It's the whole Heller Decision arguement - opponents were saying something to the effect that the 2nd amendment only allows for RTKBA in a "Militia" IIRC.
Link Posted: 12/21/2009 1:11:01 PM EDT
Originally Posted By utahvarminter:
Originally Posted By neoinarien:
what kind of asshat wrote the USAToday poll?

is that even serious?


It's the whole Heller Decision arguement - opponents were saying something to the effect that the 2nd amendment only allows for RTKBA in a "Militia" IIRC.


Exactly. And now Justice somebody or other is saying that a "smarter" SC down the road may overturn Heller. I thought a SC decision was the end of the road?!?!?


Link Posted: 12/21/2009 1:19:15 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/21/2009 1:22:15 PM EDT
USA Today Poll:  the same old poll from 2007



Ann Arbor Poll: Fresh Meat - hit.
Link Posted: 12/21/2009 1:47:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/21/2009 2:16:34 PM EDT by GunnyG]
Been there, hit it...











Should concealed pistol license holders be allowed to carry guns in classrooms and dormitories at public universities and colleges?








  • Yes 73%


  • No 26%



Created on Dec 20, 2009


Total Votes: 1,047











and made a comment too:





I'm a returning student/retired Marine GySgt, who has always had a license to carry concealed in at least one state since the late 80's.



When the state has given me a thorough investigation, and then a license to carry concealed all throughout the state, why shouldn't I be able to use a firearm to defend myself in that one particular location?



If there is a fire, there are fire extinguishers and dedicated fire suppression systems throughout campus buildings, as well as a fire department just minutes away. No one ever suggests that students shouldn't be capable of responding to a fire.



A firearm is just as much an effective response to averting a tragedy, one that has been allowed to happen too often already when well-meaning legislators and faculty members created an environment where someone's murderous intent and aggression will go unchecked.


Link Posted: 12/21/2009 1:49:35 PM EDT
Originally Posted By GunnyG:
Been there, hit it...



Should concealed pistol license holders be allowed to carry guns in classrooms and dormitories at public universities and colleges?
  • Yes 73%
  • No 26%
Created on Dec 20, 2009
Total Votes: 1,047





Hit.. same numbers.
Link Posted: 12/21/2009 1:54:42 PM EDT
Should concealed pistol license holders be allowed to carry guns in classrooms and dormitories at public universities and colleges? Yes
73% No
26%
Link Posted: 12/21/2009 1:57:50 PM EDT
Voted on both!

E-95
Link Posted: 12/21/2009 2:00:33 PM EDT



 


         
         


Should concealed pistol license holders be allowed to carry guns in
classrooms and dormitories at public universities and colleges?


     

         
       


   




  •          Yes



             
               






             
             74%
           



  •          No



             
               






             
             25%
           



 
     


     Created on Dec 20, 2009    

   
   
 


   Total Votes: 1,080  




               


       
     

     
     
   
 


 
Link Posted: 12/21/2009 2:06:28 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/21/2009 2:45:27 PM EDT
did my part
Link Posted: 12/21/2009 2:46:52 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Wingman26:
The webmasters over at USA Today are still laughing about people voting in that poll from 2007!  

Over at another message board where I'm on the site staff I delete posts on this every time they pop up, I wish people would quit passing this old poll around!

Originally Posted By DScottHewitt:
usatoday.com/news/quickquestion/2007/november/popup5895.htm

http://www.annarbor.com/news/are-campus-gun-policies-unconstitutional-debate-on-campus-gun-bills-continues/


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Oh.    But we're winning!  
Link Posted: 12/21/2009 2:56:24 PM EDT
It may be old but it's another chance to educate concerning the flawed premis of the question.

2A does NOT give individuals any rights !

What it does is prevent the government from infringing upon an understood, pre-existing right.
Link Posted: 12/21/2009 3:04:09 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Marine-78:
It may be old but it's another chance to educate concerning the flawed premis of the question.

2A does NOT give individuals any rights !

What it does is prevent the government from infringing upon an understood, pre-existing right.


Exactly.

The government doesn't give anyone any rights. These rights are self evident.

And hit them.
Link Posted: 12/21/2009 3:05:34 PM EDT
hit and hit
Link Posted: 12/21/2009 3:11:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/21/2009 3:12:25 PM EDT by tc2k11]
That USA Today poll is not even sort of close to being close. (We're winning at 97% with 4,902,920 votes.)

We're winning the campus carry one handily at 76%, but we should continue to hit it, since there are only 1000 total votes or so, and that percentage can change quickly.
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